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Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 516. (Read 1356163 times)

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I am patiently waiting a stable market for a while.

I really want to start sending emails to large media outlets! This is big, big news. The 1% that held bitcoin back will hate it, as the rush of new investors flock into the quality of VRC.

Sounds like a pipe dream to me.  Roll Eyes

I am not very tech savy, so maybe I represent the normal person better than you.

1% will hate it, 99% will say, wow, that is a big step FORWARD for crypto. I never knew they could reverse a large theft using the technology to thwart theft.



NORMAL people don't like stealing, pump and dumps and centralization. They like spending money to recieve goods. PERIOD

PayPal can already do that. So can the Federal Reserve. The fed can just print more money to make up for losses.

This is exactly how the big banks got bailed out in 2008.

Why not just use that old system of "technology"? Seems just as "cutting edge" as VRC.

Banks got bailed out for years of theft and misappropriated risks All of which where there own doing. Those banks also hurt a lot of people.

 This was a instant, and reversable action, not the same. Not even close. How simple of a mind must you have to conclude what you have is similar?

When you boil them down to their essence it is exactly the same principle. Obviously you are too invested and biased to see that.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
...Lets talk centralization, cause thats sure to catch peoples interest!

Vericoin wants to use the blockchain to go after a mass audience, not the crypto nuts!...

If you want centralized system just use Visa credit card or PayPal… they are much more usefull than any Veri BTC LTC in speed, easy to use...
and accepted everywhere, connected with you bank…
You can eve buy preloaded credit cards for children, transaction are completed in seconds… centralized system works.

Crypto is about non authority control currency you can send money when you want (to shops, to Wikileaks ) and transactions can not be charge backs…
Here is biggest value of crypto currency.
In real that was only ONE good reason to use crypto, to feel free and transactions can not be stopped… transactions can not be charge back…
goverments can put regulations but it can not be stopped.
This is value of crypto.



Does crypto have any implications outside of crypto?

Just wondering. Because there is a whole group of people including myself that think coins are stupid, but that the true innovation lies within the blockchain. The one we just proved can reverse theft and preserve a currency through quick work, and dilligent actions from the community, led by 3 rock solid developers.

If anyone can fix this, why not a microsoft employee like the one we have developing for VRC?

QUALITY folks. VRC has it

The problem with your innovation you talk about is that it can be viewed both ways...good in times of crisis but harmful if done too often.

VRC is nothing better than the current banking system.
sr. member
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freecrypto.top
I am patiently waiting a stable market for a while.

I really want to start sending emails to large media outlets! This is big, big news. The 1% that held bitcoin back will hate it, as the rush of new investors flock into the quality of VRC.

Sounds like a pipe dream to me.  Roll Eyes

I am not very tech savy, so maybe I represent the normal person better than you.

1% will hate it, 99% will say, wow, that is a big step FORWARD for crypto. I never knew they could reverse a large theft using the technology to thwart theft.



NORMAL people don't like stealing, pump and dumps and centralization. They like spending money to recieve goods. PERIOD

PayPal can already do that. So can the Federal Reserve. The fed can just print more money to make up for losses.

This is exactly how the big banks got bailed out in 2008.

Why not just use that old system of "technology"? Seems just as "cutting edge" as VRC.

Banks got bailed out for years of theft and misappropriated risks All of which where there own doing. Those banks also hurt a lot of people.

 This was a instant, and reversable action, not the same. Not even close. How simple of a mind must you have to conclude what you have is similar?
member
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If you want centralized system just use Visa credit card or PayPal… they are much more usefull than any Veri BTC LTC in speed, easy to use...
and accepted everywhere, connected with you bank…
There is a lot of interest in the ability to use paypal to purchase bitcoin. And a lot of resistance from Paypal. VRC group is looking to skirt the issue to combine the two worlds in a way that the public wants, but maybe not so much what the underworld wants.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I am patiently waiting a stable market for a while.

I really want to start sending emails to large media outlets! This is big, big news. The 1% that held bitcoin back will hate it, as the rush of new investors flock into the quality of VRC.

Sounds like a pipe dream to me.  Roll Eyes

I am not very tech savy, so maybe I represent the normal person better than you.

1% will hate it, 99% will say, wow, that is a big step FORWARD for crypto. I never knew they could reverse a large theft using the technology to thwart theft.



NORMAL people don't like stealing, pump and dumps and centralization. They like spending money to recieve goods. PERIOD

PayPal can already do that. So can the Federal Reserve. The fed can just print more money to make up for losses.

This is exactly how the big banks got bailed out in 2008.

Why not just use that old system of "technology"? Seems just as "cutting edge" as VRC.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
freecrypto.top
...Lets talk centralization, cause thats sure to catch peoples interest!

Vericoin wants to use the blockchain to go after a mass audience, not the crypto nuts!...

If you want centralized system just use Visa credit card or PayPal… they are much more usefull than any Veri BTC LTC in speed, easy to use...
and accepted everywhere, connected with you bank…
You can eve buy preloaded credit cards for children, transaction are completed in seconds… centralized system works.

Crypto is about non authority control currency you can send money when you want (to shops, to Wikileaks ) and transactions can not be charge backs…
Here is biggest value of crypto currency.
In real that was only ONE good reason to use crypto, to feel free and transactions can not be stopped… transactions can not be charge back…
goverments can put regulations but it can not be stopped.
This is value of crypto.



Does crypto have any implications outside of crypto?

Just wondering. Because there is a whole group of people including myself that think coins are stupid, but that the true innovation lies within the blockchain. The one we just proved can reverse theft and preserve a currency through quick work, and dilligent actions from the community, led by 3 rock solid developers.

If anyone can fix this, why not a microsoft employee like the one we have developing for VRC?

QUALITY folks. VRC has it
legendary
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Bulletproof VPS/VPN/Email @ BadAss.Sx
But keep on. It is entertaining.  Roll Eyes

It's indeed entertaining how you ALL work for me now. Very pleased with this kind of slavery. Bitches who work hard without getting anything but just vomit from others.

Damn, it is paradise.
member
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Stop your bullshit.
How can anybody trust a currency wich can be reversed at any time?
Do you really think that a normal person will sell some goods for a currency when the threat of a reverse will be here?

Victims of credit card theft can cancel a card or reverse fraudulent transactions, but Bitcoin is attractive to thieves because its transactions are irreversible. http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/19/5183356/how-to-steal-bitcoin-in-three-easy-steps
legendary
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...Lets talk centralization, cause thats sure to catch peoples interest!

Vericoin wants to use the blockchain to go after a mass audience, not the crypto nuts!...

If you want centralized system just use Visa credit card or PayPal… they are much more usefull than any Veri BTC LTC in speed, easy to use...
and accepted everywhere, connected with you bank…
You can eve buy preloaded credit cards for children, transaction are completed in seconds… centralized system works.

Crypto is about non authority control currency you can send money when you want (to shops, to Wikileaks ) and transactions can not be charge backs…
Here is biggest value of crypto currency.
In real that was only ONE good reason to use crypto, to feel free and transactions can not be stopped… transactions can not be charge back…
goverments can put regulations but it can not be stopped.
This is value of crypto.

legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
Watch all those losers talking fud about VRC haha. All with accounts just registered a few days ago and all having a share into another coin.

Let me tell you this, i have 100+ btc ready to take over ALL cheap VRC coins and all i'm gonna do with it is staking. Why? This coin has after this charge back the best potency to become mainstream instead of all those losercoins with their anonymity, private market and all those other bullshit features around it. All features which CANNOT go mainstream, simply because no overworld companies will embrace it and no local law would accept it.

Yes fudheads, you are fudding your own coin by fudding VRC down. But please, go ahead.....i want all those coins and i'm not gonna dump them. I will be the Winklevoss of VRC and you all made me do it.

Thank you for your work  Grin Grin

There is quite a lot of blabbing you are doing. Not sure what it is about exactly.

But keep on. It is entertaining.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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freecrypto.top
I am patiently waiting a stable market for a while.

I really want to start sending emails to large media outlets! This is big, big news. The 1% that held bitcoin back will hate it, as the rush of new investors flock into the quality of VRC.

Sounds like a pipe dream to me.  Roll Eyes

I am not very tech savy, so maybe I represent the normal person better than you.

1% will hate it, 99% will say, "wow, that is a big step FORWARD for crypto. I never knew they could reverse a large theft using the technology to thwart theft. I always heard that they let the thiefs have the money like mt gox!"



NORMAL people don't like stealing, pump and dumps and centralization. They like spending money to recieve goods. PERIOD
legendary
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Merit: 1002
Bulletproof VPS/VPN/Email @ BadAss.Sx
Watch all those losers talking fud about VRC haha. All with accounts just registered a few days ago and all having a share into another coin.

Let me tell you this, i have 100+ btc ready to take over ALL cheap VRC coins and all i'm gonna do with it is staking. Why? This coin has after this charge back the best potency to become mainstream instead of all those losercoins with their anonymity, private market and all those other bullshit features around it. All features which CANNOT go mainstream, simply because no overworld companies will embrace it and no local law would accept it.

Yes fudheads, you are fudding your own coin by fudding VRC down. But please, go ahead.....i want all those coins and i'm not gonna dump them. I will be the Winklevoss of VRC and you all made me do it.

Thank you for your work  Grin Grin
newbie
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Veircoin is not a coin desigend to make happy the crypto world .  It is designed to improve average people life .

What do you think an avarage people would have done agains the hack ? rollback or let it go ? I think the answer  is pretty clear .
legendary
Activity: 2492
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I am patiently waiting a stable market for a while.

I really want to start sending emails to large media outlets! This is big, big news. The 1% that held bitcoin back will hate it, as the rush of new investors flock into the quality of VRC.

Sounds like a pipe dream to me.  Roll Eyes
sr. member
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Merit: 250
freecrypto.top
I am patiently waiting a stable market for a while.

I really want to start sending emails to large media outlets! This is big, big news. The 1% that held bitcoin back will hate it, as the rush of new investors flock into the quality of VRC.
member
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Join @Bountycloud for the best bounties!
NONE WAS HARMED BY THIS FORK EXCEPT THE HACKER/SCAMMER
STOP FUDING !!!

VRC will go stronger and stronger
this show the credibility to the markets
VRC will attract smart money because they now prove from no doubt how safe is to invest in


sr. member
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This can be put simply

Vericoin Dev Trust = Gone
Mintpal Team Trust= Gone


My trust in the Dev's has increased exponentially becuse of their response to the knuckle heads attempts to trash an exchange and steal  from others.

Satoshi said. 3 things needed for commerce. Buy, Seller, Trusted 3rd party

Fiats are the trusted 3rd party.

With crypto, The coin is the trusted 3rd party and by default that makes the Dev's the trusted 3rd party

Dev's are in charge of a coin. If the Dev's  are active (Which has been a problem)  they can intercede in extreme cases of manipulation or wrong doing as occurred yesterday on "Blue Sunday"

Crypto coin developers can be more nimble. The Fed couldn't ever implement some thing the VeriCoin has in such rapid fashion.

Hooray for our Dev's

VeriCoinLives

Long Live Vericoin!

More on thos topic on VRCRadion live @ 10 AM EST
 
 http://www.vrcradio.com/
hero member
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These devs are impressive, if you take time to read how they delt with this. nothing short of amazing. They made me from 98% vericoin supporter to a 100% vericoin Fanboy. I have no intention of any other crypto, not even BTC anymore, way to many people in BTC want to hold it back for whatever reason.

VeriCoin wants to bring more people in, go mainstream. Bitcoin wants to remain niche judging by the words of the ones calling to let the thieves have there way in the name of being a tech purist.

I am going to go with the coin hoping for mainstream adoption with a team dedicated to success and community.

Stop your bullshit.
How can anybody trust a currency wich can be reversed at any time?
Do you really think that a normal person will sell some goods for a currency when the threat of a reverse will be here?

How many times was it reversed.? How many times will it happen in the future.

I think the answer to those questions is 1 and 0
Kinda neat.. llike binary.. if you don't like the coin sell it. If you don't have any to sell, then don't buy it.
Simple. Like binary.
sr. member
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freecrypto.top

These devs are impressive, if you take time to read how they delt with this. nothing short of amazing. They made me from 98% vericoin supporter to a 100% vericoin Fanboy. I have no intention of any other crypto, not even BTC anymore, way to many people in BTC want to hold it back for whatever reason.

VeriCoin wants to bring more people in, go mainstream. Bitcoin wants to remain niche judging by the words of the ones calling to let the thieves have there way in the name of being a tech purist.

I am going to go with the coin hoping for mainstream adoption with a team dedicated to success and community.

Stop your bullshit.
How can anybody trust a currency wich can be reversed at any time?
Do you really think that a normal person will sell some goods for a currency when the threat of a reverse will be here?

You understand if they change anything, and the network doesn't agree nothing would happen?

The devs acted on behalf of the community.

Can you tell in the hours since re-open no big dump happend?

The community, the ones with coins are not scared off by the FUD.

We might lose a few day traders, but we will gain a larger mass of new investors sick of all there crap coins.
full member
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VRC will be just fine, use it everywhere BTC is accepted...

Why would I want to use VRC (with transactions that can be rolled back) when I can use BTC (with transactions that are final)? Maybe, as you say,  it is safer to hold VRC (as long as it is on a big exchange) over BTC, but it will be worth nothing if you can't spend it because nobody wants to accept it.

Everyone here needs to realize that the world isn't familiar with crypto because of things like GOX, ect.

Decentralized, centralized is all a gimmick for paranoid whacka-do's that want to keep this from going mainstream for 1 reason or another. 1 Big reason is if this goes mainstream, Pump and dump groups, and scammers will come under much more scrutiny. Thats why you see all these people here who want the status quo, somehow they benefit from keeping crypto small and out of the mainstream.


If you think the everyday person says to themselves... You know what. I can't buy my tablet... I don't know if the coin is centralized? ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS.

I can't find one person not involved in crypto who even knows what that crap means. This is why it doesn't grow larger, faster. Instead of relating to normal people, Lets talk centralization, cause thats sure to catch peoples interest!



Vericoin wants to use the blockchain to go after a mass audience, not the crypto nuts! There is 1,000 + alts all competing for the same 300-400 million dollars that is being speculated with in the alt market. You are starting to see more lately, instead of communities coming together, they fight for the same money and compete to take each other down, rather than bring them up.


My post has nothing to do with centralization, or the masses caring about it. It's about merchants caring about the roll-backs. If there is a chance of it happening again then why would anyone want to accept VRC as payment? Little Timmy isn't going to buy an iPad because Apple won't want VRC, not because Timmy cares whether it is centralised or not.

Devs said they wouldn't do it again, and they have a call to action for the community right now to stake coins in wallets while they work to be the leader in decentralizing exchanges to prevent this goin forward.

These devs are impressive, if you take time to read how they delt with this. nothing short of amazing. They made me from 98% vericoin supporter to a 100% vericoin Fanboy. I have no intention of any other crypto, not even BTC anymore, way to many people in BTC want to hold it back for whatever reason.

VeriCoin wants to bring more people in, go mainstream. Bitcoin wants to remain niche judging by the words of the ones calling to let the thieves have there way in the name of being a tech purist.

I am going to go with the coin hoping for mainstream adoption with a team dedicated to success and community.

VeriCoin stands for something more than you people give us credit for. The community here is strong, you will see.

If they won't do it again then how does it encourage people to come into crypto that were otherwise too wary? If they know that they won't be protected the same way in future then all this talk of VRC being safter than BTC is just nonsense.
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