[ANN][X11/X13] X11 (Darkcoin)/X13 (Marucoin) miner (based on sph-sgminer) - page 2.

kenshirothefist

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Quote from: lokojones on December 08, 2014, 06:42:12 AM

Hi there

2 x r9 280x on win 8.1 14.4 catalyst and sgminer 4.1 - everything working smooth and nice - 3.3Mh
but ver 5.0.1 do not start, is crushing instantly?!downloaded from http://cryptomining-blog.com/3921-new-windows-binary-of-sgminer-5-0-1-master-branch/
but when tested on other pc with win 7 same drivers, works fine?! any clue, pls?

Another noob question, original realese from https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/releases
dont contain .exe file - what I missing here? Could someone point me to working version ( i mean complete with .exe) 5.1 please - many thanks

Take a look here for sgminer downloads: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-sgminer-v5-optimized-x11x13neoscryptlyra2reetc-kernel-switch-miner-632503

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Quote from: lokojones on December 08, 2014, 06:42:12 AM

Hi there

2 x r9 280x on win 8.1 14.4 catalyst and sgminer 4.1 - everything working smooth and nice - 3.3Mh
but ver 5.0.1 do not start, is crushing instantly?!downloaded from http://cryptomining-blog.com/3921-new-windows-binary-of-sgminer-5-0-1-master-branch/
but when tested on other pc with win 7 same drivers, works fine?! any clue, pls?

Another noob question, original realese from https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/releases
dont contain .exe file - what I missing here? Could someone point me to working version ( i mean complete with .exe) 5.1 please - many thanks

No one want to contribute... come on guys... btw I still beleive in humanity:)

lokojones

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Hi there

2 x r9 280x on win 8.1 14.4 catalyst and sgminer 4.1 - everything working smooth and nice - 3.3Mh
but ver 5.0.1 do not start, is crushing instantly?!downloaded from http://cryptomining-blog.com/3921-new-windows-binary-of-sgminer-5-0-1-master-branch/
but when tested on other pc with win 7 same drivers, works fine?! any clue, pls?

Another noob question, original realese from https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/releases
dont contain .exe file - what I missing here? Could someone point me to working version ( i mean complete with .exe) 5.1 please - many thanks

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Quote from: TorinT on December 08, 2014, 05:01:26 AM

sgminer does not need rewrite. there still is much work with kernels

thanks for your opinion, great leader of the revolution Grin

(may-be once you will be done fiddling with x11 and code a new algo, you'll change your opinion)

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sgminer does not need rewrite. there still is much work with kernels

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Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 09:59:29 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 08:14:46 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 08:12:39 PM

Quote from: JuanHungLo on December 07, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:57:18 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

making life easier for devs, means also improvement on speed because it is easier to implement.
My preferred example: xcn, nobody released anything (except claymore with a fee) because just thinking on how to do it in sgminer gives you nightmare.

You think there's a crowd funding opportunity here to completely re-write the mining software?

With "no speed improvements for the end user" Huh

I doubt it.

may be we should just release opencl file and ask the end user to make it to run... Grin

How many man days are we talking here to re-write it from the ground up?

quite a lot, difficult to say would require a real planing and a real design thought from the beginning to incorporate various any type of algo (as well as API support and so on and the eventual dev fee everybody ask so they can remove it Grin

)

and actually it is the problem usually you are in a hurry to program a new algo and you won't take the time to rewrite things...

What would you write it in? C++, Python?

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Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 08:14:46 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 08:12:39 PM

Quote from: JuanHungLo on December 07, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:57:18 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

making life easier for devs, means also improvement on speed because it is easier to implement.
My preferred example: xcn, nobody released anything (except claymore with a fee) because just thinking on how to do it in sgminer gives you nightmare.

You think there's a crowd funding opportunity here to completely re-write the mining software?

With "no speed improvements for the end user" Huh

I doubt it.

may be we should just release opencl file and ask the end user to make it to run... Grin

How many man days are we talking here to re-write it from the ground up?

quite a lot, difficult to say would require a real planing and a real design thought from the beginning to incorporate various any type of algo (as well as API support and so on and the eventual dev fee everybody ask so they can remove it Grin

)

and actually it is the problem usually you are in a hurry to program a new algo and you won't take the time to rewrite things...

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Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 08:12:39 PM

Quote from: JuanHungLo on December 07, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:57:18 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

making life easier for devs, means also improvement on speed because it is easier to implement.
My preferred example: xcn, nobody released anything (except claymore with a fee) because just thinking on how to do it in sgminer gives you nightmare.

You think there's a crowd funding opportunity here to completely re-write the mining software?

With "no speed improvements for the end user" Huh

I doubt it.

may be we should just release opencl file and ask the end user to make it to run... Grin

How many man days are we talking here to re-write it from the ground up?

djm34

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Quote from: JuanHungLo on December 07, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:57:18 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

making life easier for devs, means also improvement on speed because it is easier to implement.
My preferred example: xcn, nobody released anything (except claymore with a fee) because just thinking on how to do it in sgminer gives you nightmare.

You think there's a crowd funding opportunity here to completely re-write the mining software?

With "no speed improvements for the end user" Huh

I doubt it.

may be we should just release opencl file and ask the end user to make it to run... Grin

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Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:57:18 PM

Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

making life easier for devs, means also improvement on speed because it is easier to implement.
My preferred example: xcn, nobody released anything (except claymore with a fee) because just thinking on how to do it in sgminer gives you nightmare.

You think there's a crowd funding opportunity here to completely re-write the mining software?

With "no speed improvements for the end user" Huh

I doubt it.

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Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 07:35:39 PM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

making life easier for devs, means also improvement on speed because it is easier to implement.
My preferred example: xcn, nobody released anything (except claymore with a fee) because just thinking on how to do it in sgminer gives you nightmare.

You think there's a crowd funding opportunity here to completely re-write the mining software?

djm34

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Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 07:21:33 PM

So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

making life easier for devs, means also improvement on speed because it is easier to implement.
My preferred example: xcn, nobody released anything (except claymore with a fee) because just thinking on how to do it in sgminer gives you nightmare.

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So no speed improvements for the end user, just making life easier and cleaner for the devs.

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Maybe, but other opencl applications I've seen use half to a full core for every GPU, while cgminer can run six with the slowest single core cpu.
The problem is all the patches and forks it had.

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Quote from: Wolf0 on December 07, 2014, 01:00:12 PM

Quote from: pallas on December 07, 2014, 12:43:52 PM

Quote from: Wolf0 on December 07, 2014, 11:07:12 AM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 10:47:42 AM

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Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 10:40:02 AM

as french, I like revolutions so whose head shall we cut ? Grin

x11 is like a banana republic, there is a revolution every now and then.
Really want to revolutionize things ? rewrite from scratch sgminer.

an advice: stop mistaking revolution and pissing contest...

God, SGMiner DOES need rewriting...

What will be the advantages to re-writing SGMiner?

You've obviously never seen the code. One thing that holds back development is that no one wants to touch it. CGMiner was bad enough, and that is horrid - now we have more misfit pieces of code grafted onto it. It works, but that's about the only good thing you can say about that code.

Everybody use it because, as far as I know, it's the best at handling OpenCL (so AMD cards) ;-)

No, everybody uses it because there's no reasonable alternative. It's not the best at OpenCL, it's the ONLY one - otherwise you must write it from scratch.

actually coin shield miner is better, but doesn't support standard protocol... (and use a bit too much cpu...)
But at least you have some freedom to add (or remove) variables for your kernel.

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Quote from: Wolf0 on December 07, 2014, 11:07:12 AM

Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 10:47:42 AM

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Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 10:40:02 AM

as french, I like revolutions so whose head shall we cut ? Grin

x11 is like a banana republic, there is a revolution every now and then.
Really want to revolutionize things ? rewrite from scratch sgminer.

an advice: stop mistaking revolution and pissing contest...

God, SGMiner DOES need rewriting...

What will be the advantages to re-writing SGMiner?

You've obviously never seen the code. One thing that holds back development is that no one wants to touch it. CGMiner was bad enough, and that is horrid - now we have more misfit pieces of code grafted onto it. It works, but that's about the only good thing you can say about that code.

Everybody use it because, as far as I know, it's the best at handling OpenCL (so AMD cards) ;-)

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Quote from: Ignition75 on December 07, 2014, 10:47:42 AM

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Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 10:40:02 AM

as french, I like revolutions so whose head shall we cut ? Grin

x11 is like a banana republic, there is a revolution every now and then.
Really want to revolutionize things ? rewrite from scratch sgminer.

an advice: stop mistaking revolution and pissing contest...

God, SGMiner DOES need rewriting...

What will be the advantages to re-writing SGMiner?

right now it is a big patchwork... anything you add, add a new layer of crap...
that's the big difference with ccminer (even though it also start to look a bit like that...), each algo are independent, here stuff get reused, and if you need deeper modification your are screwed... (unless you don't care about backward compatibility...)

mostly the reason why there is no sgminer for xcn...

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Quote from: djm34 on December 07, 2014, 10:40:02 AM

as french, I like revolutions so whose head shall we cut ? Grin

x11 is like a banana republic, there is a revolution every now and then.
Really want to revolutionize things ? rewrite from scratch sgminer.

an advice: stop mistaking revolution and pissing contest...

God, SGMiner DOES need rewriting...

What will be the advantages to re-writing SGMiner?

djm34

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as french, I like revolutions so whose head shall we cut ? Grin

x11 is like a banana republic, there is a revolution every now and then.
Really want to revolutionize things ? rewrite from scratch sgminer.

an advice: stop mistaking revolution and pissing contest...

Ignition75

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