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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 109. (Read 1276936 times)

newbie
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How's status on smart contracts?

Rumors on Reddit that Ethereum scraps Serpent. CounterParty fares any better?

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Serpent has lost funding. Some projects have been written in Serpent, but according to Vitalik:

    I personally will not have time to continue Serpent development at anything more than the current glacial pace [...]

Unless someone from the Counterparty community wanted to maintain Serpent, it's dead.

It should be possible to fork cpp-ethereum and make Solidity compatible with Counterparty, but the severe limitations in Solidity make me question Ethereum's programmable contract concept.

On the one hand the core concept itself is quite vulnerable to language ecosystem takeovers, because these are miniscule, poorly maintained designer languages based on experimental compilers and VMs. OTOH is the concept of Turing complete code really that much better than a semi-restricted DSL, or even hard coding features into the protocol? If your idea of Turing complete is Python, well Serpent is downright bad. It lacks basic programming features and is in general the opposite of confidence inspiring. Solidity is not much better. They still don't have arrays. I'm not sure it's even worth copying, because it would be trivial for a better approach to crush whatever sliver of a network effect Ethereum has with something better written or written with a better architecture.

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Crafting beautiful UX is infinitely more valuable than offering a Turing Complete™ platform.

Isn't it more viable for anyone with an interesting "contract" idea to just visit https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterpartyd and create a damn pull request? What is so hard or bad about that? It works plenty well for Bitcoin. Who are the industry leaders who don't think that's good enough?

http://www.reddit.com/r/counterparty_xcp/comments/2y0apx/contract_news/
legendary
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
Looks like counterwallet cannot send btc to a multisig address. It's saying "This field must be a valid Bitcoin address.". Anyone knows if the issue has been reported ?
sr. member
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It would be really useful If we could set miner fee manually.
newbie
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Counterparty Update, Mar 6: Desktop Wallet Release Preparation, New Counterparty Blockchain Explorer, Developer Specification & More: http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-update-mar-6/

Well ... this is how the GUI looks like now:

https://i.imgur.com/zgGhVJW.png

It definitely needs to get more sexy (visually) and we really need Trezor support.
Me for example have loads of XCP loaded on my trezor and no idea how to get them off there.


Are you devs making next some smart contract settings to this wallet? What is real situation now with smart contracts? Not so bright, right? Let community know what there are biggest problems and questions now and what is your plans to solve it?  

Before everyone talk sidechains are not so secure than Counterparty. Now situation are that you need some sidechain make your system working? If yes what that actually mean? Can you explain for non tech holders what are going now Smiley Thank you.
legendary
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legendary
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It would be nice to get a working http://redeem.bitwatch.co/ or else get Counterwallet to work properly with that. Because it doesn't work right now, and its irritating and makes trading on Counterwallet rather unaffordable/impractical compared to your competitors.

Hey there,

I maintain redeem.bitwatch.co. Last I checked, which was some time ago though, it worked with Counter Wallet. Which problem did you face?

It may be a problem on my end. I'll have to update my Java or browser and get back to you. In any case, thanks for contacting me.
full member
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Counterparty General Manager
Counterparty Update, Mar 6: Desktop Wallet Release Preparation, New Counterparty Blockchain Explorer, Developer Specification & More: http://counterparty.io/news/counterparty-update-mar-6/
legendary
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It would be nice to get a working http://redeem.bitwatch.co/ or else get Counterwallet to work properly with that. Because it doesn't work right now, and its irritating and makes trading on Counterwallet rather unaffordable/impractical compared to your competitors.

Hey there,

I maintain redeem.bitwatch.co. Last I checked, which was some time ago though, it worked with Counter Wallet. Which problem did you face?
legendary
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cryptocollectorsclub.com
Price looks good to me, I am in. Not going to miss the next run up.
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Counterparty
Big shoutout to CoinDesk for their article on CoinDaddy.io http://goo.gl/rweFhH  #CoinDesk #Counterparty #Dogeparty #CoinDaddy #Bitcoin
sr. member
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this looks like a great project, but how can it be monatized.

How can what be monetized? You can create businesses that use "pure Bitcoin" features of Counterparty (assets, trading, broadcasts) or more advanced XCP-enabled features (smart contracts, betting, distributions). How you 'monetize' them is entirely up to you. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

Counterparty as a project itself is 100% open-source and non-profit, like Bitcoin. You cannot 'monetize' Bitcoin, but you can create projects and exchanges which profit from using it. Does that make sense?

Perhaps Stanley_Cold was asking more specifically about how XCP, the currency, not Counterparty, the protocol, has value.
hero member
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Keep selling guys, there's always someone with stronger hands at the other side.

or a much stupider hand, you know, it could turn out one way or the other.

if XCP was a sure thing, everybody and their mama would have some by now.

If there's a sustained BTC bull market, the good altcoins will likely get a pump, XCP included. Right now money is coming out of alts, into BTC.
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Ain't no party like a Counterparty!
Hey Deliciousowl are you going to be in the elections? I'd vote for you since you seem to be one of the few members on this forum I've watched over time (aside from the actual devs) with the most logical support and understanding of the protocol.

I keep 40 xcp tucked away and I fully expect it to be worth significant value within the next few years because I (rather than just looking at short term speculation) believe in the actual potential value of Counterparty as a platform that will be as impactful as tcp/ip one day right alongside of the bitcoin protocol itself.

If you want me vote when the time comes let me know Wink
sr. member
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Keep selling guys, there's always someone with stronger hands at the other side.

or a much stupider hand, you know, it could turn out one way or the other.

if XCP was a sure thing, everybody and their mama would have some by now.

Just like everyone and their mama had Bitcoins a year after it was released? What about Apple computer in 1977?  Google in 1999?

I think you may be just a little bit quick on the draw here. And unfortunately appeal to popularity has never proved anything before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

“There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.” — Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp. (DEC), maker of big business mainframe computers, arguing against the PC in 1977.

 “Lee DeForest has said in many newspapers and over his signature that it would be possible to transmit the human voice across the Atlantic before many years. Based on these absurd and deliberately misleading statements, the misguided public … has been persuaded to purchase stock in his company …” — a U.S. District Attorney, prosecuting American inventor Lee DeForest for selling stock fraudulently through the mail for his Radio Telephone Company in 1913.

“There is practically no chance communications space satellites will be used to provide better telephone, telegraph, television, or radio service inside the United States.” — T. Craven, FCC Commissioner, in 1961

“There is not the slightest indication that nuclear energy will ever be obtainable. It would mean that the atom would have to be shattered at will.” — Albert Einstein, 1932

“The Americans have need of the telephone, but we do not. We have plenty of messenger boys.” — Sir William Preece, Chief Engineer, British Post Office, 1878.

“The world potential market for copying machines is 5000 at most.” — IBM, to the eventual founders of Xerox, saying the photocopier had no market large enough to justify production, 1959.

There are plenty of psychological barriers to be overcome, even for Bitcoin itself! We are inside a developing microcosm right here. Sit back and enjoy the show.
legendary
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Keep selling guys, there's always someone with stronger hands at the other side.

or a much stupider hand, you know, it could turn out one way or the other.

if XCP was a sure thing, everybody and their mama would have some by now.
sr. member
Activity: 432
Merit: 250
this looks like a great project, but how can it be monatized.

How can what be monetized? You can create businesses that use "pure Bitcoin" features of Counterparty (assets, trading, broadcasts) or more advanced XCP-enabled features (smart contracts, betting, distributions). How you 'monetize' them is entirely up to you. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you?

Counterparty as a project itself is 100% open-source and non-profit, like Bitcoin. You cannot 'monetize' Bitcoin, but you can create projects and exchanges which profit from using it. Does that make sense?
newbie
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If there is coming next pump that maybe will be huge. Double what before. Looks like all good news are coming near same time.
newbie
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this looks like a great project, but how can it be monatized.
newbie
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Here is very lively ah Cheesy
Can you send some to me
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