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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 209. (Read 1276789 times)

legendary
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
I hear the moolah.io thing have bad reputations lately
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https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/504323571389571072

Moolah ‏@moolah_io

Coins not currently on @MintPalExchange or our core platform are welcome to submit a proposal to [email protected] for consideration.


I think this is worth doing, they've said they want to try to start adding quality coins rather than doing the voting thing and getting loads of just released crapcoins and scamcoins, so I think XCP would stand a very good chance of being added.
legendary
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Just found this interesting foldingcoin for protein folding scientific research using Counterparty protocol.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/foldingcoin-new-coin-that-helps-science-and-medicine-682862



Yes, its a very interesting and worthy idea. To me, its these types of coins that should have value because their mining is actually accomplishing something (3D modeling of protein folding simulations)... along with the coins that have utility in and of themselves, like XCP, of course..

Maybe they can partner with some sort of field-related vendor. I would spend 10,000 folding coins to get a basic, personal genome analysis. That's a lot because I've been "folding" for about 2 weeks and I have 563 coins total.
legendary
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
Just found this interesting foldingcoin for protein folding scientific research using Counterparty protocol.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/foldingcoin-new-coin-that-helps-science-and-medicine-682862

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sr. member
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https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/504323571389571072

Moolah ‏@moolah_io

Coins not currently on @MintPalExchange or our core platform are welcome to submit a proposal to [email protected] for consideration.
hero member
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Counterwallet is Compatible with electrum seeds, ...

Electrum's wordlist contains 2048 words and the other one is also not a simple subset -- while not even looking at how the keys are derived: this is unfortunally not the case.


I don't think I remember that being the case before. But just checked electrum

https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/blob/master/lib/wordlist/english.txt

Yes, you're right
legendary
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Counterwallet is Compatible with electrum seeds, ...

Electrum's wordlist contains 2048 words and the other one is also not a simple subset -- while not even looking at how the keys are derived: this is unfortunally not the case.
legendary
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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.
blockscan is getting better

hero member
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I am holding my XCP forever. Vote XCP at btc38.com, one of Chinese biggest exchanges.

XCP is ranking top 2 currently, need 35 more votes.

http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html

+1, XCP/CNY trading pairs on btc38 would be great.


A major flaw is relying on their server software to generate the passwords in the first place and can't even generate your own passwords or truly control your own wallet as you mention in #2.

Do you mean this in the sense of "the server provides the code" or "the server generates the password for you"? I believe you can enter any combination out of 12 x 1626 words based on this wordlist: http://pastebin.com/9bZ1fvAU.

That's correct, not sure what this guy talking about. It's not a flaw and not reliant on server software, the mnemonics/password generation is handled client side. Counterwallet is Compatible with electrum seeds, of course you can pick your own from that list as you said. 12 word passphrase is better entropy than average user would input for sure.

legendary
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A major flaw is relying on their server software to generate the passwords in the first place and can't even generate your own passwords or truly control your own wallet as you mention in #2.

Do you mean this in the sense of "the server provides the code" or "the server generates the password for you"? I believe you can enter any combination out of 12 x 1626 words based on this wordlist: http://pastebin.com/9bZ1fvAU.
sr. member
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I mean I know Vennd helped make the storj and swarm ipo virtually non technical and user friendly. But I still do not like trying to market Counterparty technology to someone who has no clue what a blockchain is like my mother in law.

For people who understand how the technology of XCP functions, it really markets itself... But it's better to give at least some attention to the general public, or someone else might.

The general public doesn't have much reason to use Counterparty right now, but that doesn't mean they won't in the future. The next step will be either investors, because some reasonable sized company (perhaps Overstock, perhaps something else) issues some kind of crypto-equity on the platform, or from gamblers because one of the betting feed operators starts advertising or gaining popularity some other way. I don't see the general public coming to use Counterparty because they like the technology, they'll come for a specific purpose.
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I mean I know Vennd helped make the storj and swarm ipo virtually non technical and user friendly. But I still do not like trying to market Counterparty technology to someone who has no clue what a blockchain is like my mother in law.

For people who understand how the technology of XCP functions, it really markets itself... But it's better to give at least some attention to the general public, or someone else might.
member
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I am holding my XCP forever. Vote XCP at btc38.com, one of Chinese biggest exchanges.

XCP is ranking top 2 currently, need 35 more votes.

http://www.btc38.com/trade/vote_for_trade_en.html
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Any objective reason for the increase in xcp price atm?

How is the Overstock deal going so far?

I'm guessing Overstock prefers to stay quiet about its specific deliberations, we'll have to wait and see.

Well, crypto exchange rates are not necessarily known for making sense... Maybe it's all the things we don't know about... But here goes:

Development is progressing rapidly everywhere! And many XCP projects are making progress.
http://storj.io/
http://swarmcorp.com/
http://getgems.org/
http://betxcp.com/

(remind me of some other ones in case I'm forgetting something)

Also, Counterparty has implemented multi-sig on testnet, and once it reaches the mainnet, it will be a valuable feature for Blockchain-based companies, DAOs, escrows and security conscious individuals. (A multi-signature address is an address that is associated with more than one ECDSA private key. The simplest type is an m-of-n address - it is associated with n private keys, and sending bitcoins from this address requires signatures from at least m keys. A multi-signature transaction is one that sends funds from a multi-signature address.)




Thanks for the heads up.

Looking forward to each of those projects!
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Simcoin Puny Humans Communicator
CP is trying to bring Wall st to decentralized blockchain technology. AJ who doesn't even use E-Trade should not be lured into it. Of course I want it to be as simple and user friendly as humanly possible. But only to the point where people with a basic understanding of this new thing called crypto currencies will want to use.

I think eventually there will be plenty of Counterparty uses, where people don't even have to KNOW that they are using Counterparty in order for it to work. It's just a question of time, really.

You are really looking into the future then.

I mean I know Vennd helped make the storj and swarm ipo virtually non technical and user friendly. But I still do not like trying to market Counterparty technology to someone who has no clue what a blockchain is like my mother in law.
sr. member
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CP is trying to bring Wall st to decentralized blockchain technology. AJ who doesn't even use E-Trade should not be lured into it. Of course I want it to be as simple and user friendly as humanly possible. But only to the point where people with a basic understanding of this new thing called crypto currencies will want to use.

I think eventually there will be plenty of Counterparty uses, where people don't even have to KNOW that they are using Counterparty in order for it to work. It's just a question of time, really.
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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
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Simcoin Puny Humans Communicator
Counterparty can't escrow Bitcoin. Nobody can. So your complaint about having to stay logged in while annoying yes, is not a fail as you imply. CP provided a "stock market" to Bitcoin. We all hope XCP will have the high market cap and liquidity as btc does one day. If it does then only using XCP and CP assets will work easily and problem free as you now expect it to.

You want Average Joe to use CP imo is a bad idea. Look at all the trouble you're having now? You are the AJ because you don't even know what you are doing. You have no basic understanding of the protocol you are using and complaining about. Most of your complaints are valid and have been expressed before. But some of your complaints show you do not understand what it is you're using. You didn't understand that CP lives on top of Bitcoin and therefore can not escrow your btc order match. You just expected it to go through like on Cryptsy. So imagine grandma running into CP or Bitcoin because we made it super super duper easy user friendly. So grandma doesn't have a clue what a private key is or how a blockchain works. She thinks its paypal and therefore can dispute a transaction if she made an error. Oh and she copied pasted her private key and left on a computer in the library.

CP is trying to bring Wall st to decentralized blockchain technology. AJ who doesn't even use E-Trade should not be lured into it. Of course I want it to be as simple and user friendly as humanly possible. But only to the point where people with a basic understanding of this new thing called crypto currencies will want to use.

Apparently the devs are working on a way to "escrow" btc. I have no idea if it is a workaround or some magic solution but that will be great and long awaited.
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I have found this on the thread. Any update ?

By the way, will it change the way to enter the account or wallet ? No more 12 words passwords ?

As I advised the team before, this solution unfortunately does not work reliably on Windows (at least based on our own experience), due to random network issues with the underlying Boot2Docker VM.

So no winwallet planned ?  Huh
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