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Topic: [ANN][XCP] Counterparty - Pioneering Peer-to-Peer Finance - Official Thread - page 285. (Read 1276789 times)

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2. The need to have BTC dust in order to send XCP:

Again, I understand why this is required but it does impact usability, since you first need to send dust to the address before doing anything. This is just a suggestion and it would obviously need to be funded somehow, but is there some way of automatically sending dust to an address whenever it is needed? Perhaps if funds from the “fee required” were sent to a dev-controlled address as discussed above they could then be reallocated towards proving dust to addresses whenever it’s needed. Just throwing the idea out there so feel free to comment or criticize. I think it is only 0.0001086 BTC that’s required, so you could fund 100K transactions with less than 11 BTC. Seems like a decent price to me for enhanced usability and I would be happy to donate to something like that.

Sounds like we need a dustbin to pull dust from as needed.
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sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
I ran some numbers today on trading volume for XCP (excluding the DEX). I excluded the first few days of Poloniex (anything before the white hat) and got the following results. I used cryptocoincharts as my data source.

- Poloniex (USD): 175,399.60067
- Bter (USD): 166,197.287
- Bter (CNY): 59,930.5637
TOTAL: 401,527.45137

So since inception we have turned over ~ 15% of all XCP.

Thats a much more positive view than the current price would lead you to.

What this means is the majority of holders believe in the medium to long term value of this protocol.
That or its still just too damn difficult to sell your coins.
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Counterparty Developer
Counterwallet.co going down for about an hour for a necessary systems update.

Thanks for your patience. After beta ends, we shouldn't have largish service disruptions to the site like this (and, as JahPowerBit said, he are moving to more of a decentralized model based on Counterwallet becoming a locally installed Chrome app, or something similar).

EDIT: Server is back up. The market view was added to the View Prices page (this should become more useful once we have more trade volume).

EDIT2: Part of this update was the renaming of counterwalletd to counterblockd. I just restored the existing preferences and rebuilt...so your address names, etc. should properly show now. If you are not seeing funds/addresses that you had, email us at [email protected] (don't worry, you should still have the addresses and private keys, as it's a deterministic wallet, it's just a matter of getting them to show up).
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Vires in Numeris

XCP needs more work!  Come on devs!  XCP needs to get easy to install and run.  Stability with a one click Windows install with fantastic GUI should be the goal.


This is exactly our goal! And we have a good foundation to get there. Counterwallet can be used as soon as desktop..
The priority for now is to implement the missing Counterparty features in Counterwallet, we can then focus on the "packaging" and installation.

JahPowerBit is the man!

I know it's tough being patient but lets remember PhantomPhreak, Xnova and JahPowerBit are all VOLUNTEERS.
We can't expect something for nothing, but we can be thankful when we get it.
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Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

haha very good!
newbie
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Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo

http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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Counterparty Chief Scientist and Co-Founder
Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo

Do you still "Recommend XCP (based on innovation)"?  Grin

I said "innovation" not "implementation"  Grin

Believe in the core idea, but seems poorly implemented.

Touché!

XCP needs more work!  Come on devs!  XCP needs to get easy to install and run.  Stability with a one click Windows install with fantastic GUI should be the goal.

I'm pretty sure that this bug was fixed. What command did you run that gave you that error, and what version of counterpartyd are you running?
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XCP needs more work!  Come on devs!  XCP needs to get easy to install and run.  Stability with a one click Windows install with fantastic GUI should be the goal.


This is exactly our goal! And we have a good foundation to get there. Counterwallet can be used as soon as desktop..
The priority for now is to implement the missing Counterparty features in Counterwallet, we can then focus on the "packaging" and installation.
legendary
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Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo

Do you still "Recommend XCP (based on innovation)"?  Grin

I said "innovation" not "implementation"  Grin

Believe in the core idea, but seems poorly implemented.

Touché!

XCP needs more work!  Come on devs!  XCP needs to get easy to install and run.  Stability with a one click Windows install with fantastic GUI should be the goal.
legendary
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Yeah! I hate ShroomsKit!
Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo

Do you still "Recommend XCP (based on innovation)"?  Grin

I said "innovation" not "implementation"  Grin

Believe in the core idea, but seems poorly implemented.

Touché!
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo

Do you still "Recommend XCP (based on innovation)"?  Grin

I said "innovation" not "implementation"  Grin

Believe in the core idea, but seems poorly implemented.
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
Yeah! I hate ShroomsKit!
Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo

Do you still "Recommend XCP (based on innovation)"?  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
Why does XCP suck so hard?

/counterpartyd_build/dist/counterpartyd/counterpartyd.py", line 835, in
    get_address = get_address(db, address=address)
TypeError: 'dict' object is not callable

I've obviously used counterpartyd_build which completely hijacks my Ubuntu box in order to build and install what should otherwise be a simple one package install. Booooo
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black swan hunter

How's that for legal defense ? 


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That's art. Had to save it for possible use in an email exchange I've been having with a party who has been described as a "Flaming Asshole"
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Hey.. do you remember XCP's IPO ?   where only a small % of investors could actually use/move XCP with the super complex counetparyd installation allowing only the devs&freinds and other several people who could actually figure out how to sell them to dump them on the market making huge amounts of BTC for a high price, leaving the rest (most) investors watching how "their" recently bought XCP being sold at 1000% profit and not being able to do anything about it because they couldn't get the software to work.
Nobody's perfect.

It's not an IPO when no money is raised.

Matt you have to remember that more than 50% of the  people on bitcointalk can't tell apples from oranges. 


Including you.
legendary
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he who has the gold makes the rules
Hey.. do you remember XCP's IPO ?   where only a small % of investors could actually use/move XCP with the super complex counetparyd installation allowing only the devs&freinds and other several people who could actually figure out how to sell them to dump them on the market making huge amounts of BTC for a high price, leaving the rest (most) investors watching how "their" recently bought XCP being sold at 1000% profit and not being able to do anything about it because they couldn't get the software to work.
Nobody's perfect.

It's not an IPO when no money is raised.

Matt you have to remember that more than 50% of the  people on bitcointalk can't tell apples from oranges. 
sr. member
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Vires in Numeris
IDEA for CityGlut, Xnova, and Matt Y.

Why not issue a secondary token on Counterparty like XCP, but this time hold a crowdfund, so that the funds are not burned but collected, and then launch a marketing missile built with those monies. I would say aim to raise 2,000 BTC. This entire community including other communities has nothing but trust for this project and its initiators. Word has gotten well around, that there is no greed at the foundation here.

I'm not sure of the specifics, but something could be issued that might be pegged with something else at a later date ? Or devise something to give incentive to investors.. its very possible.

This gave me an idea, but then again I don't have the clear understanding of Counterparty that many here have, so maybe this is silly or redundant.

How about issuing a Counterparty asset (XCPNOW?) which uses half of its invested funds to market or otherwise benefit Counterparty and half to buy XCP.  The fact that the XCPNOW organization holds half of its invested funds in XCP would give its shares some intrinsic value.  Besides benefiting Counterparty, this would be a good way to demonstrate and show off the asset system and let people gain some experience with it.  Buying XCP directly would have more potential for profit, so half of this investment would essentially be a donation.

Since no one bit into this I guess I will so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle.

This actually has some interesting implications.
It doesn't really differ from just buying 50% of XCP and donating the other 50% though.

I'm working on something that is similar to this that will benefit everyone in the counterparty community and you've given me a great idea.

More on this later.
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Even after it got on Poloniex most of the investors couldn't use send thair xcp..

Stop spewing nonsense.

You could simply send in money to the burn-in address from a blockchain.info wallet. You didn't have to use any Counterparty s/w.

Disc.: I was late to participate in XCP IPO but I bought some on the open market later. 
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You can always cd into your counterpartyd directory and git pull origin master
thank you for your help.

I went ahead and changed the path (added C:python32 to it) and that worked for me.

didn't get to try it your way but I am sure that would have worked to.
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