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Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 183. (Read 450523 times)

legendary
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What exactly do you mean by miner? This is not a POW coin AFAIK.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Did you understand anything what elastic does?
XEL, to explain it to someone who seems to be not able to read, is in other words an Appcoin for Elastic.
You buy computation power to solve cryptogrphical problems and the so called miner gives the computation power to the decentralised network, it solves tiny parts of the "problem" on the mining rig who's running our "miner" - for this work he would be paid proportional to his sum of work he done. The coins to pay the miners comes form the researchers that give work to the Network and want a soloution.


I know what the purpose of XEL is and that's why the term "miner" seemed out of place. And what you describe I would not call a miner as it can confuse people. A worker app or something would be more appropriate
You could have clarified it as you did without being a jackass.
legendary
Activity: 1453
Merit: 1030
on Ubuntu 14.04
Walk through on github didn't work for me. First of, the docker thing is unclear. I had it installed, but it turned out it was a different docker.
afterwards, the 'run docker' just gave me a hash number and nothing more. Docker kept running in the background, I was unable to turn it off other than uninstalling it.

well, after "run docker" gave you a hash number, you could have accessed elastic using your regular browser by visiting "http://127.0.0.1:6876". I will go through the instructions soon and fix any "inaccuracies".

But the currently running version is a "throwaway version" anyway ... the new grammar is almost done and the testnet will be reset afterwards.

I did that, the page couldn't connect. Just a blank screen.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
just come to show some support.

Elastic is one of the most promising project in 2017.
full member
Activity: 206
Merit: 106
Old Account was Sev0 (it was hacked)
What exactly do you mean by miner? This is not a POW coin AFAIK.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Did you understand anything what elastic does?
XEL, to explain it to someone who seems to be not able to read, is in other words an Appcoin for Elastic.
You buy computation power to solve cryptogrphical problems and the so called miner gives the computation power to the decentralised network, it solves tiny parts of the "problem" on the mining rig who's running our "miner" - for this work he would be paid proportional to his sum of work he done. The coins to pay the miners comes form the researchers that give work to the Network and want a soloution.
So this is one of the main diffences to golem or anything like it, every "Miner" is the datacenter...

And there are no third party real-world-datacenter that could get shutdown or anything else what could kill the system.
True decentralisation!

Golem has the potential to be a big scam, but we don't!
(I don't say that golem is a scam project - but there's a possebilty that it could turn out as one - anybody here rembembering hashprofit.com - ProfitCoin  Undecided I lost a few btc there. Since that I'm really careful by trusting such centralised structures. Because it is the infrasturture that gives an appcoin a value - without it, it would fail)
legendary
Activity: 2165
Merit: 1002
What exactly do you mean by miner? This is not a POW coin AFAIK.
hero member
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Merit: 507
btcstakes.com
Hey EK, I sent you a DM. Will you be able to help me.  Huh
hero member
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Hi guys, I haven't checked in for a long time.  What is the status of the project?  When will be be able to receive our XEL?

The project has a working miner by coralreefer , EK is close to finish the updated PL . Everything is in good track . No specific date for the mainnet release . 
legendary
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Hi guys, I haven't checked in for a long time.  What is the status of the project?  When will be be able to receive our XEL?
legendary
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Merit: 1168
@coralreefer, I will be finished with the grammar by tomorrow (meaning, I will have caught up with the current state of your miner).
i will then try everything and summarize the "status quo". I cannot write more at this moment, I need to keep working  Wink

See you tomorrow!
legendary
Activity: 1775
Merit: 1032
Value will be measured in sats

From the perspective of a miner:
  • Where can I download the software to mine Elastic?
  • How will I get paid?
  • How will I know if it is cost effective for me to mine Elastic?

We now need to start looking at Elastic from an end user perspective and I'm sure the questions above only scratch the surface of what the end users (research scientists and miners) will want to know and what needs to be put up on the website.


there is an elastic miner already in progress.
You would be paid in XEL.




coralreefer, you have done more than enough work. We really appreciate your support. I can write a step by step guide to help newbies to download and compile the miner. Is there a linux version or only windox?
So do we know if it will be as simple as with the SETI software from years ago, where you just download it and it chugs away in the background?  Also will the wallet for the miner's XEL be online or incorporated into the Elastic software that they download?

The miner that I wrote needs to be built / installed the same as sgminer, cpuminer, etc...you clone it from github, then build it.  It does not chug along in the background, it runs as fast as it can to solve the work problems (of course you can limit the # of threads).  

This goes back to my earlier point...you can have a miner that works exactly like the SETI software...you just need to write it.  This is the only miner I plan on writing and honestly, I really can only put another week or two into it...I've spent way too much time on this already...time for me to move on to other things.


coralreefer, you have done more than enough work. the xel community really appreciates it. I can help write a step by step guide for how to download and compile from github.
hero member
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I think that the open market will set the value . If someone wants to have it's work done fast he will set a good bounty . This offcourse will come in the future , first projects to be solved by XEL network will be the lucky ones ( from a point of cost ) i believe .
full member
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Maybe this is a dumb question, but doesn't XEL need to be a set, specific value?

If I'm a researcher with a set budget, I need to know how much carrying out the research costs.

If XEL doesn't have a set value, how would a researcher be able to calculate the cost?

Doesn't that in turn mean that an XEL must reflect a specific unit of work.  How is that calculated?
full member
Activity: 190
Merit: 100

From the perspective of a miner:
  • Where can I download the software to mine Elastic?
  • How will I get paid?
  • How will I know if it is cost effective for me to mine Elastic?

We now need to start looking at Elastic from an end user perspective and I'm sure the questions above only scratch the surface of what the end users (research scientists and miners) will want to know and what needs to be put up on the website.


there is an elastic miner already in progress.
You would be paid in XEL.



So do we know if it will be as simple as with the SETI software from years ago, where you just download it and it chugs away in the background?  Also will the wallet for the miner's XEL be online or incorporated into the Elastic software that they download?

The miner that I wrote needs to be built / installed the same as sgminer, cpuminer, etc...you clone it from github, then build it.  It does not chug along in the background, it runs as fast as it can to solve the work problems (of course you can limit the # of threads).  

This goes back to my earlier point...you can have a miner that works exactly like the SETI software...you just need to write it.  This is the only miner I plan on writing and honestly, I really can only put another week or two into it...I've spent way too much time on this already...time for me to move on to other things.

Coralreefer, no one doubts the massive amount of work you've put into the project and without you and EK we wouldn't be anywhere as close to a finished product as we are.

Now we need to tell the world about the project and work out how best to explain it clearly and concisely.  No one is questioning the quality of your work, far from it.

I'm trying to get clear in my mind what it is we've got and how it functions, so I can explain it as clearly as possible to the rest of the world on the Project's website.
sr. member
Activity: 464
Merit: 260

From the perspective of a miner:
  • Where can I download the software to mine Elastic?
  • How will I get paid?
  • How will I know if it is cost effective for me to mine Elastic?

We now need to start looking at Elastic from an end user perspective and I'm sure the questions above only scratch the surface of what the end users (research scientists and miners) will want to know and what needs to be put up on the website.


there is an elastic miner already in progress.
You would be paid in XEL.


So do we know if it will be as simple as with the SETI software from years ago, where you just download it and it chugs away in the background?  Also will the wallet for the miner's XEL be online or incorporated into the Elastic software that they download?

The miner that I wrote needs to be built / installed the same as sgminer, cpuminer, etc...you clone it from github, then build it.  It does not chug along in the background, it runs as fast as it can to solve the work problems (of course you can limit the # of threads). 

This goes back to my earlier point...you can have a miner that works exactly like the SETI software...you just need to write it.  This is the only miner I plan on writing and honestly, I really can only put another week or two into it...I've spent way too much time on this already...time for me to move on to other things.
full member
Activity: 190
Merit: 100

From the perspective of a miner:
  • Where can I download the software to mine Elastic?
  • How will I get paid?
  • How will I know if it is cost effective for me to mine Elastic?

We now need to start looking at Elastic from an end user perspective and I'm sure the questions above only scratch the surface of what the end users (research scientists and miners) will want to know and what needs to be put up on the website.


there is an elastic miner already in progress.
You would be paid in XEL.


So do we know if it will be as simple as with the SETI software from years ago, where you just download it and it chugs away in the background?  Also will the wallet for the miner's XEL be online or incorporated into the Elastic software that they download?
legendary
Activity: 942
Merit: 1026
Hello Guys,

I am starting to build elastic website. Everyone can help elastic website! We can build elastic website on this template, we need contents,graphics
and ideas... Lets work on it together..

This is github repo: https://github.com/Bilader/xelsite

Preview: https://bilader.github.io/xelsite/
thx! where can I find templates like this?
click on "get in touch" and mail "[email protected]" Tongue
just kidding
startpage looks really good so far
legendary
Activity: 1775
Merit: 1032
Value will be measured in sats

From the perspective of a miner:
  • Where can I download the software to mine Elastic?
  • How will I get paid?
  • How will I know if it is cost effective for me to mine Elastic?

We now need to start looking at Elastic from an end user perspective and I'm sure the questions above only scratch the surface of what the end users (research scientists and miners) will want to know and what needs to be put up on the website.


there is an elastic miner already in progress.
You would be paid in XEL.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 500
Hello Guys,

I am starting to build elastic website. Everyone can help elastic website! We can build elastic website on this template, we need contents,graphics
and ideas... Lets work on it together..

This is github repo: https://github.com/Bilader/xelsite

Preview: https://bilader.github.io/xelsite/
thx! where can I find templates like this?
full member
Activity: 190
Merit: 100
Hello Guys,

I am starting to build elastic website. Everyone can help elastic website! We can build elastic website on this template, we need contents,graphics
and ideas... Lets work on it together..

This is github repo: https://github.com/Bilader/xelsite

Preview: https://bilader.github.io/xelsite/


Really nice Beyinsi.  Count me in on doing some content.

For the information that needs to be put on the website, can anyone answer these questions?

So from the perspective of a research scientist:
  • How do I know if Elastic is appropriate to my work?
  • Where can I get details around what the functionality of Elastic is?
  • How do I purchase capacity?
  • Where do I download the software?
  • How can you guarantee that I will have the necessary capacity for the several years that my project will run?
  • I am subject to external audits, how can I assure regulators that my data is secure?

From the perspective of a miner:
  • Where can I download the software to mine Elastic?
  • How will I get paid?
  • How will I know if it is cost effective for me to mine Elastic?

We now need to start looking at Elastic from an end user perspective and I'm sure the questions above only scratch the surface of what the end users (research scientists and miners) will want to know and what needs to be put up on the website.
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 253
It is nice job bilader. Grin
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