[ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 217.

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on November 16, 2016, 01:00:43 PM

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EK,pls help me.thx.

I am moving everything to maven right now. Should be finished soon.
For now, you could check out elastic pl, then "mvn compile package install"
and then do the same for elastic-core. You can then run elastic using "java -jar target/elastic-core-0.6.0.jar"

This process will be made easier soon.

Code:

$ mvn compile package install
[INFO] Scanning for projects...
[WARNING]
[WARNING] Some problems were encountered while building the effective model for elastic-core:elastic-core:jar:0.6.0
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-surefire-plugin is missing. @ line 60, column 15
[WARNING] 'build.plugins.plugin.version' for org.apache.maven.plugins:maven-jar-plugin is missing. @ line 48, column 15
[WARNING]
[WARNING] It is highly recommended to fix these problems because they threaten the stability of your build.
[WARNING]
[WARNING] For this reason, future Maven versions might no longer support building such malformed projects.
[WARNING]
[INFO]
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Building elastic-core 0.6.0
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[WARNING] The POM for elastic-pl:elastic-pl:jar:0.0.1 is missing, no dependency information available
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD FAILURE
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time: 0.934 s
[INFO] Finished at: 2016-11-16T20:08:12+01:00
[INFO] Final Memory: 12M/309M
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project elastic-core: Could not resolve dependencies for project elastic-core:elastic-core:jar:0.6.0: Failure to find elastic-pl:elastic-pl:jar:0.0.1 in https://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2 was cached in the local repository, resolution will not be reattempted until the update interval of central has elapsed or updates are forced -> [Help 1]
[ERROR]
[ERROR] To see the full stack trace of the errors, re-run Maven with the -e switch.
[ERROR] Re-run Maven using the -X switch to enable full debug logging.
[ERROR]
[ERROR] For more information about the errors and possible solutions, please read the following articles:
[ERROR] [Help 1] http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/DependencyResolutionException

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Quote from: tomkat on November 16, 2016, 12:14:59 PM

Quote from: Evil-Knievel on November 16, 2016, 11:48:22 AM

@tomkat, don't get me wrong, but I personally would bet "high roller style" that Golem will not work, despite the uber-promotion.

Maybe you're right, but they have enough traction to stay on the market for some time.

What if you will decide to leave Elastic tomorrow? With Lannister as a black hole, the project is immediately close to extinction, unless someone equally good will be found within short period of time. Who cares that Elastic is operational, and maybe even better than Golem in terms of tech, if it's just small niche project that nobody knows and cares about. Good PR and hype doesn't hurt, does it?

[Edit] And a pro website is something so very basic, that it's unbelievable Elastic has something like this http://www.elastic-project.com/ that is looking like coming from pre-internet era :-) Also, non-operational elastic.pro is used here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/elastic-xel-price-speculation-added-to-bittrex-1589333 from august and nobody takes care.

"coming from pre-internet era"?

That is the genuine wiki style, something all developers and tech professionals appreciate, and something regular users probably hate, as they like big moving pictures with zero information presented Grin

In general, this project is all about real developers working together. This is exactly what I like here - the ones who actually create value, are the main players here, not the pr/marketing/traders etc.
Golem seems to be a hyped project for the ones who bite to hype, just as Lisk is, for example. IMHO.

Then of course, I understand your point too - at some moment (and this moment is very close), this project will need the ones who will promote it, increase awareness, spread the word and actually find the ones who will use the capabilities offered by EK and friends. This would probably need to go out of the small crypto universe as well, out to the real business world (like IOTA does).
And also your another point is very valid - the security is something this project misses the most. I mean it is based on few people, one of which is practically always absent, and (who knows..?) can disappear any moment with all the BTC invested, and the second one, while being a brilliant developer, already speaks of getting a real-life job..

. That's not very reassuring, to be honest

A real foundation needs to be built, with multiple reputable people, both holding the funds and working together... This could make this project shine, like a real diamond.

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on November 16, 2016, 01:00:43 PM

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EK,pls help me.thx.

I am moving everything to maven right now. Should be finished soon.
For now, you could check out elastic pl, then "mvn compile package install"
and then do the same for elastic-core. You can then run elastic using "java -jar target/elastic-core-0.6.0.jar"

This process will be made easier soon.

This one?
http://mirror.stjschools.org/public/apache/maven/maven-3/3.3.9/binaries/apache-maven-3.3.9-bin.zip

Just install maven and then what can i do next?

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EK,pls help me.thx.

I am moving everything to maven right now. Should be finished soon.
For now, you could check out elastic pl, then "mvn compile package install"
and then do the same for elastic-core. You can then run elastic using "java -jar target/elastic-core-0.6.0.jar"

This process will be made easier soon.

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Quote from: Evil-Knievel on November 16, 2016, 11:48:22 AM

@tomkat, don't get me wrong, but I personally would bet "high roller style" that Golem will not work, despite the uber-promotion.

Maybe you're right, but they have enough traction to stay on the market for some time.

What if you will decide to leave Elastic tomorrow? With Lannister as a black hole, the project is immediately close to extinction, unless someone equally good will be found within short period of time. Who cares that Elastic is operational, and maybe even better than Golem in terms of tech, if it's just small niche project that nobody knows and cares about. Good PR and hype doesn't hurt, does it?

[Edit] And a pro website is something so very basic, that it's unbelievable Elastic has something like this http://www.elastic-project.com/ that is looking like coming from pre-internet era :-) Also, non-operational elastic.pro is used here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/elastic-xel-price-speculation-added-to-bittrex-1589333 from august and nobody takes care.

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@tomkat, don't get me wrong, but I personally would bet "high roller style" that Golem will not work, despite the uber-promotion.

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Quote from: wizzardTim on November 16, 2016, 09:28:39 AM

Quote from: darlidada on November 16, 2016, 09:01:12 AM

Anyone has XEL to sell? Is there a thread for it already?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/elastic-xel-price-speculation-added-to-bittrex-1589333 <- Maybe this

It is very hard to find someone to sell ~~you~~, because you have to trust he doesn't use the private key before you do and also because it has huge potential as a project (noone wants to abandon ship early).

Well, the project has great devs, community and potential, but it lacks important component which is PR, market communication, hype, marketing and general publicity. The website http://elastic.pro/ is down. The OP of this thread is almost non-existent, there's no roadmap, no sign of any promo campaign. Lannister, who is keeping the money, is not active at all. As of now, there's not enough power in this project to reach a critical mass, and I think Golem is more promising - look at Golem's multimillion ICO that ended up within minutes. That's result of good communication, timing, more professional marketing, and value proposition.

Yes I know, your advice will be "don't grumble and just start doing something", but I have no time sorry.
I know it's donation-ware, but it doesn't mean I can't express my concern about the project.

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Quote from: darlidada on November 16, 2016, 09:01:12 AM

Anyone has XEL to sell? Is there a thread for it already?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/elastic-xel-price-speculation-added-to-bittrex-1589333 <- Maybe this

It is very hard to find someone to sell ~~you~~, because you have to trust he doesn't use the private key before you do and also because it has huge potential as a project (noone wants to abandon ship early).

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Anyone has XEL to sell? Is there a thread for it already?

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Quote from: cyberhacker on November 15, 2016, 11:04:03 PM

Quote from: ImI on November 15, 2016, 11:00:50 PM

Quote from: cyberhacker on November 15, 2016, 10:51:27 PM

Quote from: ImI on November 15, 2016, 10:48:16 PM

Quote from: cyberhacker on November 15, 2016, 10:44:11 PM

Quote from: Evil-Knievel on June 16, 2016, 04:15:23 AM

This is just the first step, this does not mean that some bright heads do not figure out a way to extend that set of possible use cases.

What I would also love, since we have a "cloud computing coin" to embed distributed storage at some later point. But that it future work ;-) Lets focus on this one first.

wow，find out this.

ek, don't find yourself a job, plz keep working on XEL

jepp, we pay better than any job can do.

how about we setup a foundation right now!

automatically deduct certain % from all accounts to EK!

Not possible and not necessary. a.) Lannister has a good amount of BTC and b.) Community could come up with 100BTC+ easily i think. Especially once we are listed on an exchange, then it should be even easier.

I am thinking deduction from all accounts make it fair. let alone, elastic distributed the unsold tokens evenly to all donators.

with proper incentives (certain amount of XEL), make whole project sustainable.

just an idea, don't know how others think about.

a.) BTC in hand of Lannister is for distributed computing. ek well deserve it or even more. if it works well.
b.) EK will make XEL even greater with more function like storage.
c.) compared to the evenly distributed unsold tokens, something like 5% from all accounts is nothing at all. we can accept it.

We've already had similar discussion. See below

Quote from: Mrboot on August 22, 2016, 08:21:09 AM

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Quote from: trader19 on August 22, 2016, 05:37:01 AM

the remaining funds should be distributed among donators as initialy planned

I totally agree with that!

I also totally agree!

No problem, but what if more funds will be needed in the future for the development?
Many coins have such funds, and 93.5k XEL isn't anything substantial, but it can grow to nice $$$ over years, so XEL will have an advantage over other coins.

Why can't we vote it?

You cant vote to breach a treaty. Even if there would be a 90/10 majority it would be wrong cause in its initial terms it was exactly stated that those funds will be deployed.

But that being said, no one hinders you/us to setup another development fund that is donated voluntarily.

The voting for changing the supply isn't breaching the treaty?

For sure nobody gets confiscated his funds in a forceful way.

Altering the total supply might be a change to the initial plan, thats right, but i doubt that even in front of a court a claim would have any chance of being heard. Its basically nothing else than a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_split which happens everyday in the world of finance and is nothing to complain about as you are not being confiscated anything. While in your scenario someone would be forced to give away value that he didnt want to give away. Thats something COMPLETELY different.

But like i said there is always a way to do this by free choice. Also the devs could take some of those BTC and buy XEL with them, just to be sure to profit from an eventual rise in XEL value.

Taking BTC and buy XEL from them wont make any sense aswell, cause they give btc to themself then so that is actually the same.
What you can do is Make a donation wallet and people can donate (IF they want ofc) 10% of the coins they get extra, that will come to a nice amount of coins aswell.

Edit, unless they buy it from people wanna get out of XEL

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Doesn't use these forums that often.

We need foundation..

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I dont understand a single word u wrote

Quote from: beyinsi on November 16, 2016, 12:29:07 AM

Quote from: Ghoom on November 15, 2016, 11:54:20 PM

Quote from: cyberhacker on November 15, 2016, 11:42:21 PM

Quote from: beyinsi on November 15, 2016, 11:37:32 PM

elastic project is %0 premined coin!

all coins distributed to investors with ico. its very very important for elastic project image. 100m coins owners listed on transparent genesis-block Alotof scam projects have %10 %30 premined coins.

elastic need a foundation for developing,supporting,pr and may find different solution. i dont know there is 600btc. all btcs should use with foundation

can't agree with you more!

100% agree too

dude, i dont think my Xels. i only think Elastic project.

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Quote from: Ghoom on November 15, 2016, 11:54:20 PM

Quote from: cyberhacker on November 15, 2016, 11:42:21 PM

Quote from: beyinsi on November 15, 2016, 11:37:32 PM

elastic project is %0 premined coin!

all coins distributed to investors with ico. its very very important for elastic project image. 100m coins owners listed on transparent genesis-block Alotof scam projects have %10 %30 premined coins.

elastic need a foundation for developing,supporting,pr and may find different solution. i dont know there is 600btc. all btcs should use with foundation

can't agree with you more!

100% agree too

dude, i dont think my Xels. i only think Elastic project.

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Quote from: cyberhacker on November 15, 2016, 11:42:21 PM

Quote from: beyinsi on November 15, 2016, 11:37:32 PM

elastic project is %0 premined coin!

all coins distributed to investors with ico. its very very important for elastic project image. 100m coins owners listed on transparent genesis-block Alotof scam projects have %10 %30 premined coins.

elastic need a foundation for developing,supporting,pr and may find different solution. i dont know there is 600btc. all btcs should use with foundation

can't agree with you more!

100% agree too

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Quote from: beyinsi on November 15, 2016, 11:37:32 PM

elastic project is %0 premined coin!

all coins distributed to investors with ico. its very very important for elastic project image. 100m coins owners listed on transparent genesis-block Alotof scam projects have %10 %30 premined coins.

elastic need a foundation for developing,supporting,pr and may find different solution. i dont know there is 600btc. all btcs should use with foundation

can't agree with you more!

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elastic project is %0 premined coin!

all coins distributed to investors with ico. its very very important for elastic project image. 100m coins owners listed on transparent genesis-block Alotof scam projects have %10 %30 premined coins.

elastic need a foundation for developing,supporting,pr and may find different solution. i dont know there is 600btc. all btcs should use by foundation

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