Topic: 📌[ANN][ZER]🔐ZERO - Your Transactions Are Your Business ✅ - page 20. (Read 36914 times)

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Not sure if I should waste time here, you read, but don't even try to understand.

Because read carefully here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.39298792
1) You are now trying to imagine everything, like the LMC.
Purchase simcards-register them for Twitter accounts-add these accounts to the list of followers of Twitter Zero
But this is not so, accounts are registered for a special advertising service. And already he is engaged in the addition of subscribers (for example you are interested in crypto currency, you this service will offer Zero's account on Twitter as a contextual advertisement).
And Rick knew about it, and even received screenshots in private messages.
2) Do you need to tell that Instagram, facebook refers to social networks?  

And Rick knew about it, and even received screenshots in private messages.
P.S. always help you, son

Well, probably I will give a chance to the project. Let's see what will happen. Wish you a good luck!

Well, tearo said it nicely. Let me add up.
Bad == Ineffective, you knew that, but wanted to be a smartass.
Give me a good reason why we should do Russia specific marketing? Why not china? Their population is 10 times that of Russia.
Don't say "china has restrictions on cryptocurrency", I'll just name another country.
And please, don't call me son. I might be younger physically, but as it seems, I'm much older mentally.

EDIT:


Would you say Bitmex is a scam?

Yeah, I see it works like a Swiss watch.

I have a question for you, if you are a very competent technical specialist, can you afford a CRYPTOCURRENCY EXCHANGE to use a security certificate TLS 1.2 purchased on Amazon?))

Dear ImZloyHomyak, as your name implies, you are an angry and evil rodent. I would not normally bother to reply and will not engage in any discourse going forward. However, this once I will take the time to address two of the questions you've listed, for the benefit of the rest of the community.

The original developer of Zero made a set of changes to the Zclassic codebased, that are described in detail in the original ANN. The implementation have been reviewed by a number of competent developers since. From the very start that individual announced his limited availability and no inclination to interact frequently. He does drop by bitcointalk.org occasionally and may well message people privately, but is not posting, as you can see. He has not contributed to Zero codebase since at least Sept. 2017.

Having been involved in Zero for a year now, I have been doing the codebase maintenance for perhaps half of that time and can testify that the current team is the strongest in Zero's lifetime. In terms of the range of technical skills and organizational abilities, we deliver fixes and improvements, peer review the changes, share the workload, plan and then execute a range of tasks in parallel and keep the community apprised and engaged.


Regarding QIEX, indeed it is located in Asia and is a young entrant into the space.  We are not fortune tellers and cannot predict how their business develops over time. By way of example,  Binance was at that stage about a year ago. Many other exchanges are still lingering, after a year or two of operations.

The team at QIEX was willing to work with Zero, to understand the coin particulars and to launch the node in order to support trading it. Jointly we overcame the timezone and language barriers and the trading is now fully in operation.  Personally, I have moved 100 Zero there and have executed perhaps six transactions, on both Buy and Sell side, in order to validate the operation. For me, the system has operated without a single glitch.

Same as everyone reading this post, you have to do your own research and evaluate suitability of the size and execution of specific investments to your personal situation and skills. A prudent approach to investments is broad diversification, across various asset classes, where Crypto likely should not constitute the majority of your overall portfolio.  Across Crypto, I typically suggest a long term sizable investment in top five currencies, with much smaller and actively managed investments in individual Altcoins.

Do consider diversifying into other members of the Zcash ecosystem, and also into the Ethereum coin and tokens domain.  There are exciting new blockchain architectures coming online right now, such as EOS and TRON, and NEO shows promise.  Good luck in your investments, and do share with the community your insights and successes.
  Tearo

And now read above that the LMC is written and take the meaning of the note with a little sense) Do you know that besides the VK there is also an insta, facebook?) Do you also need to show screenshots with words for example?) You also need to tell what the accounts are for and that you even close do not understand what you write about?) I will not even say hello  
P.S. Advertising can not be good or bad, remember that, son, It can only be effective or ineffective
P.S. 2 Do I need to remind you what the scandal was with the last team and the current one over Twitter with 2K followers?) Then it was very important, not anymore. Double standards are what we get

Hello, Viktor.
We had a small heated conversation on Discord right before you left or we're banned.

Your main point is this:
-I need more money to buy sim cards and make fake twitter accounts for ZER to have more followers.
You know that numbers don't contribute to anything? Retweets/Likes/Comments is what does it and not by fake accounts with 0 followers.
We need big people to retweet posts, not your 0 follower accounts.

Now, about VK. It's basically the Russian Facebook, so why not just advertise to the whole world?
I've advertised on Facebook and their targeting algorithm is pretty good, I doubt VK would yield results that are even close to those of facebook.

The creator isn't back in Zero, he just updated the announcement, we've not heard of him, the team has not heard of him.
You should know that it'll be good publicity if he came back, so no reason to hold that information back.

Xrumer, oh man, oh boy..
Xrumer is a spamming tool, I'm sure you know that, that is a dirty way to advertise and a good way to make people hate whatever's being advertised.
I'm sure you too, don't like being spammed. Do you?

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I'm not sure what your argument is with the link to the original ann and his last activity..
Zerocurrency himself said, in his last post, that he'd like to be back, but doesn't want to hinder progress in the meantime.
He changed it himself, nobody contacted him, it's his child, he's keeping track of Zero... Would you watch over your child?

Masternodes are not gonna be implemented, they are not confirmed by the team. Yes, there was a poll about them, but it as said millions of times that the poll is just to measure the community's opinion and that they will not implement masternodes in the near future.

Destination address changed? You mean that now there are a few addresses, each for an individual thing?

Developer fund is pretty good, because developers like Duke Leto will not work for free, they're gems with experience in the blockchain and Leto personally has worked on multiple ZCash forks, so yeah, the money is for bounty developers.

About QIEX, EVERYONE AGREED to list on there, the only one that whined and cried about it is YOU. You are the one who warned them and you seem to be a 1st class scepticist. You are not better than the rest of the community, you are just a puny mortal, just like the rest of us.

You called Rick a "bad marketer", you're the one who wants to advertise on VK instead of Facebook, for an international currency/platform. That is the definition of a bad marketer. You are the one that wanted to advertise an international product in one country, when there is a better option, with a much better marketing algorithm and targeting.

In the chat, you told Rick that they've already launched masernodes? That's so delusional. Rick literally told you it's gonna be cleared up in the monday newsletter and instead of waiting you decided to attack the team here. Why did he not explain on the spot, you say? Well, because of what's happening now. Even if all of the team came to tell you that YOU'RE WRONG, you wouldn't change your mind, so he didn't even try.

Another thing, this is community-driven, but all decisions can't be decided by community, because most of people only care about the pump, while the team is ACTUALLY trying to build a currency.

Also, you're the only one that didn't want to list on QIEX, so I don't know where the "did you ask the community about QIEX" is coming from..

Please don't post anymore and shame yourself, because the devs didn't listen to you, this is not a dictatorship and you're not even part of the team.
Create your own coin, fork whatever you want and do whatever you want with it, market it on "VK" and buy fake twitter followers.

Thanks for reading!

Well, you yourself wanted to develop the topic with stupid excuses, we go further and on points) In every branch, every language topic).
1) The lie. Such global changes are not possible without the participation of the creator.
Another argument:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17905887
Paragraph Community:
http://zero.finance
http://zero-currency.com/
unconditional redirect to https://zerocurrency.io/
Last active zerocurrency https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zerocurrency-958598 April 22, 2018, 06:50:34 PM
Remind you the date of launch of the site?))))
There are a lot of these nuances. What did you decide to announce there on Monday, masternodes?) So you have already conducted the last update of the network (well, yes, without the creator ) under the masternodes.
Have you read your roadmap?) The "implementation of the dev fee" item. Bravo, again without a creator?!) I will especially focus on this point. And you asked the community for consent to this all? Discussed? But about this further, about the decision-making and what it was "community takeover" or else "takeover by a group of people".  
2) You changed the destination of the address after people sent money to it. AFTER. Now about the correspondence with Rick. It was suggested that he categorically replied that these funds were for developers. Who decided this?) You?) Again, ok. Transparency and openness, as your motto says.  
3) Warned?) About what?) Rick only wrote yesterday in the discord "Little volumes, let's add more" No warnings were the opposite, a daily, permanent copy of the advertisement of this exchange. Again your lie, little lie... Look and read how the story ended of SAFE COIN and EXVO.IO exchange. Until now, they are being brought up in connection with this exchange. And who decided to add there? You? You asked the community?) On the contrary, you have been repeatedly warned.
4) Now about me, here it was already an insult on your part, well, I will answer.
a) You talk about my inappropriate communication in Russian chat. Were there complaints from users?) Why only I was banned, I talked to someone?!I'm banned only ) Why was I banned after my words to Rick in private messages? Here are these:
State the fact. You're campaigning people to send funds to the Scam exchange.
Did you send anything there yourself?) No, of course

You are a liar.
Don't like criticism(a criticism that is justified)? Instead of bans objectionable it would be better to read what you write people and made the right conclusions.
b) Now about your attempt to compromise me.
1) What about the contest for bloggers youtube:

See the word EXAMPLE?) Send you what the word means FOR EXAMPLE?  
And this correspondence with RICK was not about specific steps, but about the fact that Zero advertising should not only look like a copy-paste in Twitter and Discord. Advertising should be large-scale. Even on these two screenshots it is visible that these are examples, offers, but in any way not instructions to concrete actions. What we have? More lies on your part, this time about me. This can even be called an insult.  
2) About Twitter accounts. You are again trying to distort the picture). Now you presented everything in such a way that I was trying to raise money for buying simcards and registering twitter accounts on them to add Zero's account  
More silly performance I have not read. You lie again. What do you know about contextual advertising and promotion of Twitter accounts? But I sent Rick even a link to the service, where these accounts are entered and this service is already beginning to promote and add users, with the interests, in our case, cryptocurrency+contextual advertising in social networks. And that's a very big difference to your description. It turns out Rick you were misled or you are intentionally trying to slander me, whatever. But that's a lie again. And Yes, an insult.
I will summarize. Openness and transparency? It is not. False.  
P.S. And for your insults  LMC, I'll ask you the full  

Awesome to hear! Thanks for your support.

I am one of the development team, and address your points per the below:

1) The coins creator has not returned to the project, and we still have no idea who this was, or even their whereabouts. This is community takeover 2.0 (since early April 2018), and the team in charge is open, transparent, and here for the long run;

2) There originally was one address, but as we are reliant on the donations from the community, we made three addresses so that the community can choose which address they want to donate to: one for the development of the project, one for exchange listings, and one for general donations.

Look the wallets up, there have only been additions to the wallets, and no withdrawals. The development team are volunteers, and we will in no way at all be touching the donations from the community for payment. I think that your confusion lies in the translation of developer fund (although the wallet is termed development fund).

3 a - d) QIEX is a brand new exchange that offered to list us for free, and they had a stringent process for listing. We have been working with the developers of QIEX in making this listing work. As always though, DO NOT leave your funds on any exchange, we would state this even if we were listed on Binance or any other Tier 1 exchange. THIS IS JUST COMMON SENSE.

As a note also, the dev team also did send some of their individual personally purchased ZER to the exchange to try out the interface and trading system.

In terms of your removal from Discord you were banned for constant FUD, blatantly bringing the project into disrepute in the Russian chat (yes, we can easily Google translate), and also constantly casting a negative view on the progress of the project up to and including 8 weeks since takeover and voicing these negative opinions in the chat.

When frustrated with the progress of the project, you directly approached the dev team to offer to 'buy sim cards to make numerous fake twitter accounts to increase Zero's awareness' in the Twitter-sphere. When we suggested that you keep your money, and that the project would organically grow with quality products and deliverables steadily released, you quit the Discord. You then came back after your own exile, and then purported to cast your negative views on the project once again.

In this second round return to Discord, you also accused us of not marketing the coin properly, and to use the funding that we had in the development fund to host Youtube bounties of the coin to the tune of 500 ZER and beyond. Imagine how the general community would feel if we had blown the current funds on Youtube promotions, instead of development towards a finite supply, block halving, and a developer fund. (Of which we have not touched yet, as we are aiming to avoid this as far as we can go).

If the developer community donations funding in said wallet still exists by the time that the developer fund is implemented in the upcoming fork, then we will REFUND THE DONATIONS TO THE RELEVANT WALLET ADDRESSES THAT SENT THEM. Not the best practice for a scam project I think many will agree.

By the way, the only funding that WILL be coming out of the 'development fund' community donation wallet is 40 ZER per month because the project is sponsoring the 2 x community pools that are offering a 0% pool fee to miners. This is to cover their operating costs.

Viktor, I don't know how much more transparent we can be, with weekly updates, a constant reminder of community donations still remaining in the relevant wallets, and a solid plan for the project.

None of this existed before, but it is still not good enough? Please take your negative views elsewhere while they exist, and if you want to extend an arm of assistance to the project in a legitimate way, then you are more than welcome back down the track.

We are sorry for the way you feel, but Zero is not a pump and dump project. We recognize that a lot of people may have invested into the project at ATH (which by the way, was 3 months before community takeover 2.0), but we are here for the long run, delivering a steady, organic, growth for  the community, investors, and project.

If I haven't addressed all of your points above, please do let me know.

Thank you.

LMC

PS - for anyone's reference of the wallets name changing, and general transparent updates, please do refer to our Medium channel here to read up on our journey to date:

https://medium.com/@zerocurrency

We have another update released tomorrow, so please also keep an eye out to remain updated.

This community is still small, only 143 votes for past 2 weeks. I actually disappointed for our project. This is very difficult for the development of a coin in future

I've been following this project a little while, and I like the way things are going.
I think I'll start mining zero in a few days and I'll find out how I can get involved in the project 

Well, I think the public will be interested in the answers to these questions:
1) Why did you hide the return of the coin's creator https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zerocurrency-958598
2) Why the address for donations t1cDotxmVEJrniDjNqqjsCWq8mLMApV8vXC suddenly  became "Developer Donation Wallet" although initially it was the address "On the development of the crypto currency," not a donation to the developers. And you made changes already after the donations were credited there (the editing date of the first post is enough to see, the moderators see it, we invite them). Today in personal correspondence, you said so, these are the coins of developers, and you will not spend them on development (correspondence will be provided on request to the moderator)
3) Exchange qiex.com, I also repeat here - this is a scam (you were repeated many times by users):
a) CERTIFICATE OF SECURITY HTTPS Tls 1.2 purchased at AMAZON !!!!!!!!! For 1 year!!!!!
b) The domain of qiex.com was registered in 2003. I explain once again, he was bought. Why introduce users to delusion?
c) Site with errors, translations squalor, functional curve.
d) Rick himself said that he tried to reach them, but who did not answer. BUT immediately in the correspondence he was told that now is not working time. THIS IS HONG KONG(Oh yeah, the domain is registered in the united states, but the phone is Chinese). He never sleeps)))) Online support means it works, but no phones. And even that did not bother you, Rick.
YOU motivated the listing there, that it is free. Do you care about your reputation? Rick actively promotes it (it would be better to have Zero advertised). Today Rick banned me for these words (in personal correspondence)
"State the fact. You're campaigning people to send funds to the Scam exchange.
Did you send anything there yourself?) No, of course"
I wrote them to him because Rick is actively promoting this exchange, despite all the warnings of users.
What is the reason? I do not know, to hide the fact that the creator appeared silly (such global changes in the network without it are impossible). Promote the questions of the community's opinion, ignore the obvious facts,  exchange which does not deserve it. What is the reason for RICK? Do you have a personal interest?
P.S> sorry for mistakes, google translate  
P.S> Rick, when Qiex will disappear with the money users, the community, what would you tell them? You've been warned many times. Or did you decide you were gonna say "Not my fault" excuse?!

Yes. I have being mining for few months on suprnova

Now updated to 0%. Thanks

I would even say the most stable pool 

My friends recommended this project, I do not know why, I did not have time to get acquainted with the description of the project, but I'm sure it's a good project when I send more information - I'll write again!