Topic: Anonibet Official Thread - Gold Member of Bitcoin Foundation - page 76. (Read 195844 times)

SUPERBOWL

Seattle Seahawks @ Denver Broncos (N)


Seattle Seahawks: +105
Denver Broncos: -133


Handicap
Seattle Seahawks (+5.5): -200
Seattle Seahawks (+2.5): -118
Seattle Seahawks (-0.5): +100
Denver Broncos (-5.5): +145
Denver Broncos (-2.5): -118
Denver Broncos (+0.5): -133


Total Points
Over 48.5: -111
Under 48.5: -115


1st Half Handicap
Seattle Seahawks (+0.5): -125
Seattle Seahawks (+3.5): -182
Seattle Seahawks (-2.5): +125
Denver Broncos (-0.5): -111
Denver Broncos (-3.5): +135
Denver Broncos (+2.5): -166


1st Half Totals
Over 20.5: -182
Over 26.5: +125
Over 23.5: -125
Under 20.5: +140
Under 26.5: -166
Under 23.5: -105


Half Time / Full Time
Seattle Seahawks/Denver Broncos: +650
Seattle Seahawks/Draw: +2700
Seattle Seahawks/Seattle Seahawks: +155
Draw/Denver Broncos: +1675
Draw/Draw: +7400
Draw/Seattle Seahawks: +1900
Denver Broncos/Denver Broncos: +120
Denver Broncos/Draw: +2700
Denver Broncos/Seattle Seahawks: +725


Highest Total Score / Quarter
1st Quarter: +600
2nd Quarter: +165
3rd Quarter: +550
4th Quarter: +180
Equals: +500


Number of Points Odd/Even
Odd: -133
Even: +110

Number of Points / First Half / Odd/Even
Odd: -111
Even: -118

Overtime
Yes: +950
No: -2500

Dear BitcoinZrulez,

I do not want to interfere into this discussion with Aksplace. Trust all Bitcoin gambling review are asking for money, if not they do not list you. Btcsporstbet and Anonibet are the oldest Bitcoin bookmaker both launched in 2011, and some Bitcoin gambling review sites refuse to list us because we do not offer an affiliate revenue share deal to them. We offer them a flat fee and they are not happy with that. Surprisingly Aksplace has wrote a review and listed Anonibet first and then asked if we would like to have an advertising banner running on his website. He was pretty fair and honest with us.

I can assure you he did not blackmail us like some other review websites have done!

Regards,
Michael

There's a lot I could say about many of the things that transpired in this thread, but I think i'll focus in on AKSplace.  This guy should be insta-banned from the bitcoin community for a series of reasons:

1--i've seen in several threads (stakebtc being the main one) that's he's clearly putting pressure, blackmailing, bullying sites to advertise with him.  it seems fairly self serving for him and a huge conflict of interest from what i can tell.  I would not use him at all if it were me.  he's clearly out to promote his site by any means necessary and could gives a rats ass about the gambling community

2--he's attempting to throw his weight around based on incomplete information and an ignorant understanding of bitcoins.  giving bitbook the "green light" to send bitcoins back to anonibet was a huge mistake on his part.  he inferred that by me placing a bet with bitbook that they were the site hosting the 15 bitcoins.  you were wrong bro and from here on out i'm stalking you on every thread and will point out every single mistake you make until you have no credibility and your scammy review site is a baron wasteland.

3--his understanding of bitcoins, the bitcoin protocol and bitcoin concepts are so limited that he really shouldn't have anything to do with reviewing things that have any relationship with bitcoins.  if he likens accidentally sent bitcoins to stealing it shows he doesn't understand bitcoins at all.  its certainly not stealing if AKSplace wakes up in the morning to a pile of cash sitting next him on the nightstand.

4--his basic understanding of logic, human nature, and right vs wrong is piss poor at best.  I cant tell you the number of mistakes he made in assumptions and accusations the past few days.  he's really just a 27 year old cyber-bully who is most likely trying to establish himself as some premier review site by any means possible, most of which are belligerent and demeaning to either the sites or the players.

5--i would recommend that sites stop advertising with him or giving him any money.  there will be more reputable places that enter the scene, this guy is a cancer.  as someone who has a good understanding of human nature and a pretty good read of people after 15 years of playing poker, believe me you dont want to be associated with this guy.

I have mentionned this because some forum members were mentioning to sue BitcoinzRulez. That was the only reason.

I don't understand why you have to mention the fact you have his info, although you wouldn't use it.

Hi to everyone,

BitcoinzRulez has in deed paid us back the 15 BTC sent by mistake to him. So in my opinion he is a fair gambler. I would like to underline 1-2 points, I have only asked BitcoinzRulez once by email to send us back to 15 BTC. We have not harassed him. I have only responded 2 times on this thread to what was written, only to clarify the situation, I never accused or commented on BitcoinzRulez decision to gamble the 15 BTC. I am copy pasting my 2 previous comments (you can read on the thread) here below in order to avoid any misunderstanding regarding Anonibet.com


My first post was:

Hi to everyone,

I am reading your comments with a smile, it is nice to see that the majority here think BitcoinZrulez should return the 15 BTC.

I will not comment on your action BitcoinZrulez. I just want to explain how it happened, so the community know the full story.

BitcoinZrulez has deposited 15 BTC on Anonibet, as he stated he did not place a single bet and asked for a withdraw. I am the one who has processed his withdraw. I had to process it from a different wallet because I did not want to deduct %5 handling fees from his deposit. We do not want people to use Anonibet as a safe to store their Bitcoins that is why we have such a rule, stated on our website Terms and Conditions:

2 Deposit and Withdraw Rules
2.01 Minimum deposit and withdraw amount is 0.001 BTC or 1 mBTC
2.02 Maximum withdraw order for 24 hours is 500 BTC.
2.02 In order to withdraw funds from your account, you are required to place bets as much as the amount deposited. If you make a withdrawal request without placing bets 5% handling fee shall be deducted from the amount you have requested.

But since BitcoinzRulez deposit and withdraw request was made the same day, and without any bet placed; I transferred his 15 BTC from another wallet in order not to cut %5 from his deposit. Since his intention was not to "store" his Bitcoin with Anonibet, I wanted to be fair to him and made payment. But I forgot to cancel his withdraw from our system, and one of my colleague has processed it the next day, since the withdraw request was there for almost 24 hours, he processed it as soon as he notices it.

Following that mistake I have emailed BitcoinZrulez, to claim back the 15 BTC.

So this is the full story from Anonibet side. BitcoinZrulez would agree with all what I say here I guess.

Kind regards,
Michael


My second post was:

We are not planning to sue anyone for 15 BTC. If you have noticed I am calling BitcoinZrulez with his forum nickname, despite having his full name, email and even his picture (thanks to Google+). Even if he does not return the btc, we will never breach his privacy and disclose any information. At the end of the day BitcoinZrulez is not a thief, he has not stolen anything from us. I made a mistake and have asked him to return the 15btc. This does not make him criminal, this was my mistake and I will pay for it.

Okay, so instead of stealing the car he just joy rided. Geez, great job! Want a cookie with that also?  I'm glad we was able to convince him to do the right thing kudos for that and because of such feedback was left for him. Although it really was his own decision on sending back who knows if he would have! He is a "gambler" after all...

https://blockchain.info/address/14z6hDnuwW5kKrHfFzGYK7eetQZ7Nv464s

If it wins and you give it back id say you're a stand up guy. Not sure where the hate is coming from.

At least the last 2 guys are being honest.  There's almost no one that would return it, and that was my point from the beginning.  However, unlike randomly finding $12,000 cash, in this particular situation the money is being used for gambling so I put forward a potential win/win vs lose/lose scenario.  It made it slightly more fair for both parties involved. 

Everyone accusing me of stealing are just ridiculous, dont understand bitcoins or dont understand the situation.

But since this money wouldn't have ever been cashed out to pay for bills i thought letting it ride made more sense.  At some point it would've been bet so there was a good way to make both parties happy.  Either we both get it back or neither of us ends up with bitcoins.

at this point it appears we both end up with 15...

I wouldn't return any money that's anonibet mistake

The book made a mistake and sent the guy too much money.  He certainly didn't steal anything.  That's one of the downsides of using this type of currency...it's irreversible.  How many times do you read "make sure you type this deposit address in correctly" or "make sure you input your withdraw address correctly" (not necessarily on this site, in general when using btc).  It's shitty that this mistake was made, absolutely, and I feel for the person/people who run the book, but it was their mistake.  While it would be nice of the guy to send the money back, it's certainly not stealing if he doesn't.

Wait wtf did I miss?  He's not returning the 15 BTC now?  He absurdly said he would if he won.

Projection: a defense mechanism in which a person unconsciously rejects his own faults by ascribing them to others.

You are the one who is stealing 15 bitcoins. No one else is.

So don't assign guilt to others when it all belongs on you.

i really wish there was a better way to return the money.  I would love to distribute 15 BTC to each of the assholes on this thread who called me out and see how many would actually return them.  I'm saying maybe 10% TOPS.

there's almost no chance any of you wouldn't keep $12,000.

and i actually hope at this point the knicks lose.  I've never disliked people less than the hypocrites in this thread.

i just realized, you actually made this account specifically to weigh in on this particular thread.  whats your agenda bro?  do you even know what a bitcoin is?

Quoted.

It wasn't a scam until you said yourself if the bet wins you will pay the 15 BTC acknowledging a debt of 15 BTC if knicks win. Thus, you weren't a scammer for keeping the 15 BTC at first, but if knicks cover and you don't return the 15 BTC yeah you're a scammer 100%.

Dude, be proud of your theft. Come on now. Don't try to shovel the blame off on someone else.

LOL.  you know what fuckface, you just cost anonibet the money i was going to give them tonight.  they can sort it out with you now.  you owe anonibet 15 BTC for being such a douchebag.  

knicks are up like 25 points, its as close to a lock as there is, but you've ruined it for them.  people like you should just never open your mouth.

also, explain how they got scammed by ME.  will you do that for everyone.  explain how I scammed them?