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Topic: Antminer L3 - 250mh - 400watt Scrypt miner coming soon - page 53. (Read 137455 times)

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If you look at average increase of difficulty over the last year, it's alot more than 1%, maybe 2%-2.5%, and all thoses news scrypt miners aren't goingto make things easier either, look at the huge bump of difficulty over the month of december 2016, that's probably because all those new miners are running full speed @ chinese farm.

Anyway, i think you could use less rudeness, so long...
hero member
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dont lie
only 142 days ROI with 10c

Keep your voice down

On the coin I'm going to mine the ROI is what I wrote
legendary
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....
with a 3% difficulty increase.....
LOL
Are you fucking noobs?
With 3% difficulty increasement it will be 1212000 (up in 16 time from now) in 365 days. It is absolutely impossible.
Even bitcoin with the super bull trend in 2016 year had only 3 time difficulty increasement from 103,880,340,815 to 317,688,400,354.
Man you need to learn to count .
Agreed with you.
I recommand using this calc
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator
allow you to count difficulty, and you'll see ROI is hard.... super hard, even with free electricity.
The ROI is 111 days with free electricity !!!
This is the best invesment in mining hardware at the moment.
Hummm how do you calculate ?
if i put 3% diff, hahs 250MH, price 1600$, pool fee 2%, electricity free, the ROI is 700days
Man you need to learn to count .
3 % diff? 2% pool fee? What a nonsense!
With 3% difficulty increasement it will be 1212000 (up in 16 time from now) in 365 days. It is absolutely impossible.
Even bitcoin with the super bull trend in 2016 year had only 3 time difficulty increasement from 103,880,340,815 to 317,688,400,354.
Max diff could be 150-200k in the end of 2017. it is only 0,75-0,8% of average increment.
legendary
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The ROI is 111 days with free electricity !!!
This is the best invesment in mining hardware at the moment.
Indeed, and it is ~290 days with 10c
dont lie
only 142 days ROI with 10c
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Got some in today they are very quiet and only use about 370w per unit.





This is 3 units running.

This is great news!  Quiet, lower power than the 400w.  Sounds good.  How do they hash?  Tried them on a multicoin pool to see if they can handle the rapid shifts? 

I believe these are what the A4s should have been like. They are very stable and quiet I can post a video for the noise level if requested. I ran them for about 2 hours on clevermining as I needed to ship them out to customers but they hashed at over the expected 250Mh i was getting 260-280MH. Then once it would switch it would sometimes drop back to 200-215 then climb up quickly. I will post some LTC mining speeds and the clevermining hashrates later today.

Thank you for the info.  Anything you can share would be very helpful for people here interested in this miner.  I am looking forward to getting my hands on one to test it myself.   Grin
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Got some in today they are very quiet and only use about 370w per unit.





This is 3 units running.

This is great news!  Quiet, lower power than the 400w.  Sounds good.  How do they hash?  Tried them on a multicoin pool to see if they can handle the rapid shifts? 

I believe these are what the A4s should have been like. They are very stable and quiet I can post a video for the noise level if requested. I ran them for about 2 hours on clevermining as I needed to ship them out to customers but they hashed at over the expected 250Mh i was getting 260-280MH. Then once it would switch it would sometimes drop back to 200-215 then climb up quickly. I will post some LTC mining speeds and the clevermining hashrates later today.
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....
with a 3% difficulty increase.....
LOL
Are you fucking noobs?
With 3% difficulty increasement it will be 1212000 (up in 16 time from now) in 365 days. It is absolutely impossible.
Even bitcoin with the super bull trend in 2016 year had only 3 time difficulty increasement from 103,880,340,815 to 317,688,400,354.
Man you need to learn to count .

Agreed with you.

I recommand using this calc

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

allow you to count difficulty, and you'll see ROI is hard.... super hard, even with free electricity.
The ROI is 111 days with free electricity !!!
This is the best invesment in mining hardware at the moment.

Hummm how do you calculate ?

if i put 3% diff, hahs 250MH, price 1600$, pool fee 2%, electricity free, the ROI is 700days
hero member
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Merit: 500
....
with a 3% difficulty increase.....
LOL
Are you fucking noobs?
With 3% difficulty increasement it will be 1212000 (up in 16 time from now) in 365 days. It is absolutely impossible.
Even bitcoin with the super bull trend in 2016 year had only 3 time difficulty increasement from 103,880,340,815 to 317,688,400,354.
Man you need to learn to count .

Agreed with you.

I recommand using this calc

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

allow you to count difficulty, and you'll see ROI is hard.... super hard, even with free electricity.
The ROI is 111 days with free electricity !!!
This is the best invesment in mining hardware at the moment.
We are not all thieves, we have honest people who pay electricity and do not steal electricity.
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500

The ROI is 111 days with free electricity !!!
This is the best invesment in mining hardware at the moment.

Indeed, and it is ~290 days with 10c

Unit is a "must have"
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1002
....
with a 3% difficulty increase.....
LOL
Are you fucking noobs?
With 3% difficulty increasement it will be 1212000 (up in 16 time from now) in 365 days. It is absolutely impossible.
Even bitcoin with the super bull trend in 2016 year had only 3 time difficulty increasement from 103,880,340,815 to 317,688,400,354.
Man you need to learn to count .

Agreed with you.

I recommand using this calc

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

allow you to count difficulty, and you'll see ROI is hard.... super hard, even with free electricity.
The ROI is 111 days with free electricity !!!
This is the best invesment in mining hardware at the moment.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
CryptoLearner
....
with a 3% difficulty increase.....
LOL
Are you fucking noobs?
With 3% difficulty increasement it will be 1212000 (up in 16 time from now) in 365 days. It is absolutely impossible.
Even bitcoin with the super bull trend in 2016 year had only 3 time difficulty increasement from 103,880,340,815 to 317,688,400,354.
Man you need to learn to count .

Agreed with you.

I recommand using this calc

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/litecoin/calculator

allow you to count difficulty, and you'll see ROI is hard.... super hard, even with free electricity.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1002
....
with a 3% difficulty increase.....
LOL
Are you fucking noobs?
With 3% difficulty increasement it will be 1212000 (up in 16 time from now) in 365 days. It is absolutely impossible.
Even bitcoin with the super bull trend in 2016 year had only 3 time difficulty increasement from 103,880,340,815 to 317,688,400,354.
Man you need to learn to count .
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According to online calculators, we can earn millions of XMR if we use an ASIC. is that true?
"Mining Agreements:Scrypt algorithm all coins"
legendary
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Basically take 1.78 BTC / (0.03*0.25) BTC daily profit = 237 days.

With difficulty increases it will probably be a year.

However no idea what these will resell for next year. Could hold half its value.


No idea why you would want to take this risk when you can get a RX 470 for like $150 which will ROI in 3-4 months and has GUARANTEED warranty and will most likely still be worth $75 in a years time.
legendary
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The problem will likely be the flood of L3's coming online and the massive increase in difficulty.  Profitability is likely going to get squeezed pretty hard here. 

I am trying not to be negative, but I think we have already seen the precursor with the big spike recently that we thought was the A4's.  Most likely that was due to the L3's and not as much the A4's.  Just a wild guess on my part, but it certainly fits the time line.  Not sure that these miners will be profitable for very long.  I guess we will find out soon enough.

There are at least 6 different coins with reasonably good profitability. My guess everybody will mine GAME and LTC, so difficulty spike will be with those coins.


 I hope you're not counting any of the "merged mineable" coins like Doge in your 6.



legendary
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If the price of 1.78 BTC is accurate, there's no hope of ROI.

The bitcoinwisdom calculator came up with over 1188 days with no end in sight (that's as far ahead as the calculator will show) with a 3% difficulty increase, 2% pool fee, 20 day delivery (who knows when they'll ship), and free electricity.

I guess anyone buying these have to be optimistic about the difficulty flattening some months down the road after the spike once the L3 is released. Also they'd have to be willing to trust that the L3 will be more reliable than the S9.

As much as I'm intrigued by the idea of the L3, I'll probably sit this one out.

Somehow you have a very significant systematic error in your calculations.

ROI is 290 days having an electricity price of 10c (US) - which is very good


I used bitcoinwisdom.com's litecoin mining calculator. Just ran the numbers again and got the same answer.

 What did each of you use for difficulty increase?

 That makes a HUGE difference in ROI calculations.

legendary
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Nice.
L3 has the best ROI of all mining hardware at the moment.
best investment.
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Got some in today they are very quiet and only use about 370w per unit.





This is 3 units running.

This is great news!  Quiet, lower power than the 400w.  Sounds good.  How do they hash?  Tried them on a multicoin pool to see if they can handle the rapid shifts? 
hero member
Activity: 742
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Got some in today they are very quiet and only use about 370w per unit.

This is 3 units running.

Could you please make a separate topic with review? Smth like Phil did on Panda Miner?

Photos, setting up hardware, software
Pools
Stats

That will really help us!
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Got some in today they are very quiet and only use about 370w per unit.





This is 3 units running.
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