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Topic: ANTMINER S2 Discussion and Support Thread - page 97. (Read 355820 times)

hero member
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gotta let a coin be a coin
I saw we can donate S2 coupons, so if anyone wants mine let me know via PM. I have 1 400USD coupon expires May 23rd and 3 that expire on May 30th.
legendary
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hate to say it but i have 1 crippled S1 that took out a cougar 700w psu.

i can get into it, i can reboot it a billion times - the best i get is a brief flash on the board and thats that.

silver lining, everything else has come back online in unison.

how longs the warranty on these rigs?

this was bought as a pair on the 13th of March - arrived on the 17th so its not even 2 months...


E2A - i walk 8 feet away, sit by the pool and cool my feet... it only comes back online,,, i can see it twinkling away over there..ffs.

dem ants, eh

I have one unit that was doing it (intense momentary flashing and no hashing). I figured the cause-the panel near top left (close to ethernet connection) was overheating because of:
1. Slow fans on this machine
2. grey ribbons that were not properly folded and were blocking the airflow
In your case perhaps increasing air temp contributed

My solution: i directed the airflow from an additional external fan (I used Vornado, but any one can do) toward the panel. After a few seconds of increased air flow, hashing resumed uninterrepted and continued OK since. Somebody later posted that there is a temperature sensor that shuts everything down when that sensor reaches high temps (145oC). This is not the sensor that shows temp of the board on the web interface because that sensor was at OK reading in my case. Check it out with a fan.
hero member
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the S1s come and go. but pretty stable.

i have one that likes to hang and go bright solid green led on me - still uncertain what it means but its rare so i dont worry.

the s2 has been solid since i got it going and just as im typing this the fkr comes back to life for about 3 seconds...

up until today i was happy with its stability over anything else.

now its beeping at me again....

its annoying cos if it was the network it would affect them all.

and its just this one.


so far....



Could be an IP collision on your LAN.  Do you have a mix of DHCP and static IP's used for your miners?  If one of your miners or another device on your network takes an IP that you are using as a static IP for your S2, and connectivity is reset or you rebooted the miner, then it would probably exhibit the behavior you're describing.

My wifes iphone was doing this, pain in the ass to narrow down the device Smiley

I had this problem with a static ip S1 and a DHCP printer, and it took me a while to figure out why I had intermittent connectivity. I fixed the issue by specifying a DHCP IP range in my router that did not conflict with any static IP addresses that I assigned to my Antminers.

Yeah, I do the same.  I have a specific dedicated IP range for all my Miners, another one for network equipment with static IPs (managed switches, temp sensors, etc) and another range for all my Dynamic stuff.  I try to specify Static IP's where I can though to make things more manageable.
hero member
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I had this problem with a static ip S1 and a DHCP printer, and it took me a while to figure out why I had intermittent connectivity. I fixed the issue by specifying a DHCP IP range in my router that did not conflict with any static IP addresses that I assigned to my Antminers.

And that's how you safely run both DHCP and a statics on the same subnet.

Set the DHCP to only draw from a specific range (say 192.168.1.150-192.168.1.200) and then assign all your mining gear IP addresses outside that range (192.168.1.100, 101, 102, 103, etc) to keep things straight.
hero member
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the S1s come and go. but pretty stable.

i have one that likes to hang and go bright solid green led on me - still uncertain what it means but its rare so i dont worry.

the s2 has been solid since i got it going and just as im typing this the fkr comes back to life for about 3 seconds...

up until today i was happy with its stability over anything else.

now its beeping at me again....

its annoying cos if it was the network it would affect them all.

and its just this one.


so far....



Could be an IP collision on your LAN.  Do you have a mix of DHCP and static IP's used for your miners?  If one of your miners or another device on your network takes an IP that you are using as a static IP for your S2, and connectivity is reset or you rebooted the miner, then it would probably exhibit the behavior you're describing.

My wifes iphone was doing this, pain in the ass to narrow down the device Smiley

I had this problem with a static ip S1 and a DHCP printer, and it took me a while to figure out why I had intermittent connectivity. I fixed the issue by specifying a DHCP IP range in my router that did not conflict with any static IP addresses that I assigned to my Antminers.
hero member
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the S1s come and go. but pretty stable.

i have one that likes to hang and go bright solid green led on me - still uncertain what it means but its rare so i dont worry.

the s2 has been solid since i got it going and just as im typing this the fkr comes back to life for about 3 seconds...

up until today i was happy with its stability over anything else.

now its beeping at me again....

its annoying cos if it was the network it would affect them all.

and its just this one.


so far....



Could be an IP collision on your LAN.  Do you have a mix of DHCP and static IP's used for your miners?  If one of your miners or another device on your network takes an IP that you are using as a static IP for your S2, and connectivity is reset or you rebooted the miner, then it would probably exhibit the behavior you're describing.

My wifes iphone was doing this, pain in the ass to narrow down the device Smiley
hero member
Activity: 798
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the S1s come and go. but pretty stable.

i have one that likes to hang and go bright solid green led on me - still uncertain what it means but its rare so i dont worry.

the s2 has been solid since i got it going and just as im typing this the fkr comes back to life for about 3 seconds...

up until today i was happy with its stability over anything else.

now its beeping at me again....

its annoying cos if it was the network it would affect them all.

and its just this one.


so far....



Could be an IP collision on your LAN.  Do you have a mix of DHCP and static IP's used for your miners?  If one of your miners or another device on your network takes an IP that you are using as a static IP for your S2, and connectivity is reset or you rebooted the miner, then it would probably exhibit the behavior you're describing.
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I have an extra S2 coupon. I'm looking for an S1 coupon if anyone has one they don't need.
Please PM me
sr. member
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First of all, let me say that I have been in this situation… The customer "IS" or needs to be responsible for a clear line of communication… Bitmain gave me their account number to do my RMA .. I all so found out that this was not acceptable in the US in order to generate a return label. I promptly emails Bitmain back and gave them a run down on the situation and they generated the return label on their end .. I was out only a 24 hour loss in return time.. The key to this whole mess is "communication" , and don't give up on that very critical key.. What I found is that Bitmain is their to help you IF you help them help you …….. Now you can be bull headed and say that its all on Bitmain but I'm sorry, in this situation if you want to get results you will have to do some of the leg work in the communication department .. I have several S1's and an S2 … I am happy with my product other then the fact that their is a VERY small ROI that I was well aware of Bitmain is by far better then a KNC or BFL in my opinion .. The only thing that was wrong with my S2 was a bad thermal reader on one card, and I can live with that… I do wish Bitmain had a local US parts house, but all in all I'm very happy with their service ..

I had the exact same issue on my RMA (previous post pages ago).  After getting a non-response from Bitmain I posted here and sent another e-mail, this time copying [email protected] as well as the customer service rep who failed to respond.  Within a few hours they fixed the issue.

Bitmain's RMA procedures need to be improved (they should know to provide UPS labels for example, and tracking codes to include in the box so they know when they get the return back - my return somehow got lost in customs!).  

But agree with the above that Bitmain's customer service is excellent and always has been.  There are glitches like what I experienced and what the last few posters experienced, but keep at them and when you get the attention of the right person all will be resolved.
legendary
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the S1s come and go. but pretty stable.

i have one that likes to hang and go bright solid green led on me - still uncertain what it means but its rare so i dont worry.

the s2 has been solid since i got it going and just as im typing this the fkr comes back to life for about 3 seconds...

up until today i was happy with its stability over anything else.

now its beeping at me again....

its annoying cos if it was the network it would affect them all.

and its just this one.


so far....



support told me the PSU's can overheat quite easily in the earlier batches, try running it with the PSU outside the case. Or with the case open and a fan pointed directly into the innards,
legendary
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How much noise is produced by S2 at 1-2 ft distance? Preferably in db (using iOs or Android app).
Any high pitch noises?
Thanks.
newbie
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If anyone would like an S2 $400 coupon, let me know your username on Bitmain and I'd be happy to shoot it over Smiley
legendary
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actually you all misinterpreted my point entirely, i am not pissed off at the discounts as such.

im pissed that each time they are just small enough to barely make a difference.

NOT ONCE have i thought, what a bargain!! Im in!!

its always. ffs, might as well.

and let us be fair, these products barely make the 'good' grade.



what group buy??

Well you don't have to buy one every time there is a price drop, you can wait for a couple of price drops till its worthwhile. Smiley

Closer but still not quite....


my point is... the discounts are so small that they pretty much cancel out the slight increase in profit by 'waiting' for a better deal.


its too fine basically.

i dont knock him/them for doing it, i would probly do the same.

 but its having your nose rubbed in the fact that 'he/they can do what they like'

and if you buy now its hardly worth it, and if you wait for the price to drop, the profit will have dropped too so they essentially cancel each other out.


AND - my batch 2 just started beepin out of teh blue while batch 4 and half a dozen S1 carried on regardless.

ive rebooted, ive reseated, i've reconnected, ive power cycled, ive dusted, ive pulled the sd, ive replaced the sd with the 1l1l1l1l1l1l img file...


it boots ok but no beep and 0GH & 0C


Didn't you also have trouble with one of you S1's not hashing?

Could be a network issue, I had trouble early on when I had a large farm of S1's and various other bits running on a Powerline network, they kept killing their own network connections and I'd have ants beeping all over the place.
legendary
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Right now bitmain has the cheapest (arguably) 1THs miners. It makes sense for them to do things this way. And they are lowering prices MUCH faster than their competitors which leads to more people buying their hardware, Its a savvy business move and we benefit from the lowered price. Their hardware works just fine. Could be packed better but overall just works. And that is the most important quality in all this. The ASIC market at the 1THs+  level is relatively small in terms of actual players (not counting non-shipping pre-orders like BFL and such). There are only a couple of real players in the field. And price is a huge competitive advantage.

If spondoolies lowered their prices to something comparable to bitmain they would dominate the market. But not likley as they are still in the very early stages of growth. bitmain is an established player and has the momentum needed to stay. spondoolies still has not even hit their year mark benchmark. Other competitors are in the same boat. Bitmain simply are the better value right now from a straight price point. This is disregarding all the other considerations in Ghs per watt and such.

Also I imagine its a LOT more expensive to manufacture in Israel than it is in China. I think the markup on the Chinese units is substantially higher as well. This includes the A1 Dragon miners and the Bitmain ones.
legendary
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I've ordered a lot of hardware from Bitmain in the past and now I've got like 12 coupons on bitmain (6 for the S1 and 6 for the S2) and I see there's a donate button, does that mean I can transfer them to someone else? Has anyone done this... sorry for the slightly off-topic post.

No I think its on topic. Wanna do a test? PM me your Reciever ID and I'll send you a S1 coupon, and then you can send it back Smiley

I have 5 S1 and a few S2 if you want to trade ?
user id is pjcltd


I donated you 1 S1 coupon, let me know if you got it.
hero member
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Right now bitmain has the cheapest (arguably) 1THs miners. It makes sense for them to do things this way. And they are lowering prices MUCH faster than their competitors which leads to more people buying their hardware, Its a savvy business move and we benefit from the lowered price. Their hardware works just fine. Could be packed better but overall just works. And that is the most important quality in all this. The ASIC market at the 1THs+  level is relatively small in terms of actual players (not counting non-shipping pre-orders like BFL and such). There are only a couple of real players in the field. And price is a huge competitive advantage.

If spondoolies lowered their prices to something comparable to bitmain they would dominate the market. But not likley as they are still in the very early stages of growth. bitmain is an established player and has the momentum needed to stay. spondoolies still has not even hit their year mark benchmark. Other competitors are in the same boat. Bitmain simply are the better value right now from a straight price point. This is disregarding all the other considerations in Ghs per watt and such.
legendary
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Exactly this.

But it is strange, when you know exactly the total cost of your product, when changing the final price, means:

-Cost changes on daily basis
or
-Markup on cost changes purposely on a daily basis

I cannot believe that their cost changes on a daily basis.
I think it is most probable that they decrease their markup daily.

I cannot understand , though,  this strategy.

The cost of an iphone is 10 usd per piece that is what apple paid foxconn.
The bulk of the 199-10 = 189 is in paying for marketting gurus and r&d engineers.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the iPhrone, made by Grapple? Because an iPhone definitely doesn't cost $10, and they don't charge anyone $200 for it. $200 is pretty much their cost.
https://technology.ihs.com/410378/iphone-5-carries-199-bom-virtual-teardown-reveals
sr. member
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Exactly this.

But it is strange, when you know exactly the total cost of your product, when changing the final price, means:

-Cost changes on daily basis
or
-Markup on cost changes purposely on a daily basis

I cannot believe that their cost changes on a daily basis.
I think it is most probable that they decrease their markup daily.

I cannot understand , though,  this strategy.

The cost of an iphone is 10 usd per piece that is what apple paid foxconn.
The bulk of the 199-10 = 189 is in paying for marketting gurus and r&d engineers.

The cost of building electronic in china is simply unbeatable an antminer s2 will cost no more than 500 usd to produce. The PSU cost is actually quite large in proportion to the hashing boards, add 150 usd to that 500 still cost 650 maybe, they are doing what a good company should be doing that is value-based pricing. There were people who'd pay 3000 usd for s2 back in march, their batch 1 sold in less than 24 hours why sell for less ? Maybe should've asked for more... as diff increases they can lower it bit by bit and still profit.

Remember they're still using the 55nm chips, and who knows maybe they populated them in a huge board to test run it for a month before repopulate them again  into s1 and s2 Wink double time.

legendary
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NodeMasters
I've ordered a lot of hardware from Bitmain in the past and now I've got like 12 coupons on bitmain (6 for the S1 and 6 for the S2) and I see there's a donate button, does that mean I can transfer them to someone else? Has anyone done this... sorry for the slightly off-topic post.

No I think its on topic. Wanna do a test? PM me your Reciever ID and I'll send you a S1 coupon, and then you can send it back Smiley

I have 5 S1 and a few S2 if you want to trade ?
user id is pjcltd
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 1220
I've ordered a lot of hardware from Bitmain in the past and now I've got like 12 coupons on bitmain (6 for the S1 and 6 for the S2) and I see there's a donate button, does that mean I can transfer them to someone else? Has anyone done this... sorry for the slightly off-topic post.

No I think its on topic. Wanna do a test? PM me your Reciever ID and I'll send you a S1 coupon, and then you can send it back Smiley
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