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Topic: ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 127. (Read 710164 times)

legendary
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November 15, 2014, 11:42:47 PM
BITMAIN Promotion plan for S3+, S4 and C1
$50 coupon for S3+, $400 coupon for S4 and $50 coupon for C1 are issued to customers who ever bought miners from BITMAIN or our official distributors Smiley

In my account are the S3 and S4 coupon, but not any C1 coupons.
hero member
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November 15, 2014, 11:37:26 PM
BITMAIN Promotion plan for S3+, S4 and C1
$50 coupon for S3+, $400 coupon for S4 and $50 coupon for C1 are issued to customers who ever bought miners from BITMAIN or our official distributors Smiley
newbie
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November 15, 2014, 03:11:54 AM
ahh I see what happened, I was looking at the stats for ghash and it was an ORPHAN block, not our faults, so anytime that the one of the hashing boards goes off it means an ORPHAN block happened, keep that in mind.

The Orphan block must have confused the miner and caused it to go into a shutdown state. Wierd.

But why would it do that if I was on Slush Pool? And why does the chain stay offline and not resume work without a power down and restart?

no clue :/ but why it cuts the mining of the S3 in half is unknown, its something Bitmain will have to look into.

https://blockchain.info/orphaned-blocks anyway here is a page that lists all orphan blocks as they happen. the latest one said it was relayed by Ghash
legendary
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November 15, 2014, 03:00:32 AM
ahh I see what happened, I was looking at the stats for ghash and it was an ORPHAN block, not our faults, so anytime that the one of the hashing boards goes off it means an ORPHAN block happened, keep that in mind.

The Orphan block must have confused the miner and caused it to go into a shutdown state. Wierd.

But why would it do that if I was on Slush Pool? And why does the chain stay offline and not resume work without a power down and restart?
newbie
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November 15, 2014, 02:57:21 AM
ahh I see what happened, I was looking at the stats for ghash and it was an ORPHAN block, not our faults, so anytime that the one of the hashing boards goes off it means an ORPHAN block happened, keep that in mind.

The Orphan block must have confused the miner and caused it to go into a shutdown state. Wierd.
legendary
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November 15, 2014, 01:02:29 AM
Just had a strange issue on my S3+. It was only hashing about half what it should be. It is clocked at 225 (default) and in room with aircon on. All the Asics showed working. Temps were 38C on one blade and only 23C on the other blade. Resetting pool configurations did not change this. It appeared that one blade was working at full speed and the other blade showed good but not doing any work. After being puzzled I finally just powered down the S3+, waited and powered it back up. Now both blades are hashing again and temps coming up. Is this just an issue of the controller getting confused? For now it is hashing at full speed again.

!!!!!!!!!!

I had that same problem above check a few posts above yours, interesting coincidence that it happened to you too, is thier some kinda virus or bad work units foating around that disables the miners, or a faulty design in the s3 or something  Huh

it has to be a network wide issue if we both got it at the same time.

I'm using Ghash pool btw, are you on the same one? I'm thinking about changing pools if it happens again....

I am hashing on Slush's Pool. Weird happened to both of us around same time?Huh
newbie
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November 15, 2014, 12:28:00 AM
Just had a strange issue on my S3+. It was only hashing about half what it should be. It is clocked at 225 (default) and in room with aircon on. All the Asics showed working. Temps were 38C on one blade and only 23C on the other blade. Resetting pool configurations did not change this. It appeared that one blade was working at full speed and the other blade showed good but not doing any work. After being puzzled I finally just powered down the S3+, waited and powered it back up. Now both blades are hashing again and temps coming up. Is this just an issue of the controller getting confused? For now it is hashing at full speed again.

!!!!!!!!!!

I had that same problem above check a few posts above yours, interesting coincidence that it happened to you too, is thier some kinda virus or bad work units foating around that disables the miners, or a faulty design in the s3 or something  Huh

it has to be a network wide issue if we both got it at the same time.

I'm using Ghash pool btw, are you on the same one? I'm thinking about changing pools if it happens again....
legendary
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November 14, 2014, 11:53:56 PM
Just had a strange issue on my S3+. It was only hashing about half what it should be. It is clocked at 225 (default) and in room with aircon on. All the Asics showed working. Temps were 38C on one blade and only 23C on the other blade. Resetting pool configurations did not change this. It appeared that one blade was working at full speed and the other blade showed good but not doing any work. After being puzzled I finally just powered down the S3+, waited and powered it back up. Now both blades are hashing again and temps coming up. Is this just an issue of the controller getting confused? For now it is hashing at full speed again.
legendary
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Christian Antkow
November 14, 2014, 09:23:59 PM
If it is space heaters that you REALLY want, AND you do not mind maintaining / reducing your hash-rate, you could be better served by acquiring a set of S1's, underclock & undervolt them (to output ~125 GH/s @ - and don't ask me for a link, search the forum!) and replace the fan with a couple of quieter ones in a push pull layout at full pelt, aka blue wire hack; For a tad less power for both compared to your bitfury rig, you'd be laughing!
Thanks for the advice.

I'm looking to make at least a 450GH/s quiet space heater @ < 500W  Tongue
newbie
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November 14, 2014, 08:52:50 PM
Have you tested the psu and cables?  If you have a modular psu you should replace the cables and try and see if that clears it up.  Any errors in logs?

its partial modular, the cables are hard wired so can't replace them.

Might just be a bug or something, just like any operating system if you restart it, it helps it run more efficently, I guess I don't mine restarting it once a week.
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November 14, 2014, 08:44:27 PM
Have you tested the psu and cables?  If you have a modular psu you should replace the cables and try and see if that clears it up.  Any errors in logs?
newbie
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November 14, 2014, 08:42:35 PM
has anyone ever had the issue where half the mining power turns off after running fine for about a week solid? this is the second time its happened to me, I have to keep turning off the PSU and turn it back on to get it back to full speed again.

temps were only around 36 - 39c, only have 1 unit running off a coolermaster 1000w silent pro gold PSU, and I'm not overclocked.
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November 14, 2014, 08:00:08 PM
I seem to be having some significant efficiency reduction after upgrading my remaining S1's to S3+.  

You need to clarify (even qualify!) that statement. You SHOULD get a significant improvement either way since an S1 consumes 400 watts for ~200GH/s while an S3+ consumes as much for ~500GH/s. So the question is, what exactly do you mean by a reduction in efficiency?

Is there any known issues with the latest firmware that could cause my efficiency to drop 20% since upgrading?  (I host my own P2Pool node that is how I see the efficiency drop).

It has been said in this thread and a multitude others, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!


Okay so what is going on is my pool that I host here is saying my efficiency is ~80% where it was ~115% before the upgrade. Seems more than suspicious to me...I do see the improvement in hash rate, but with my efficiency tanking I am seeing my deposits drop .02 satoshis or so instead of increasing.  Killing me, smalls!
That means you are either getting a lot more stales than before, or you have set your timeout LOW such that the "dark" HW errors are not showing up in your GUI and your "upgraded"(?)  rigs are thus submiting less shares. You could try increasing the timeout on one unit and see how that affects your earnings, else I'd press the hard reset and revert to the stock firmware. Having said that, (and this is by no means authoritative), did you ever hear of those fabled old tales about the S3 not being optimised for P2Pool, or am I mistaken?
I'll have to ask again, why on earth did you choose to "upgrade" the firmware?

EDIT: I had to say timeout set LOW rather than HIGH

I upgraded the firmware to the latest so all my units would be uniform (the 4 new units I ordered came with 24OCT14 firmware where as the others had the august firmware release).  If I revert them all back and see improvement I will post here and let you know.
hero member
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November 14, 2014, 06:54:29 PM
500GH/s bitfury rig? How much wattage does that beast consume, bearing in mind an OC'd S3+ @ 500+ GH/s consumes ~400w?
It's over 1W/GHs by a bit, which is why I'm looking to create a couple quiet S3 space-heaters, and retire the current Bitfury space-heaters.
If it is space heaters that you REALLY want, AND you do not mind maintaining / reducing your hash-rate, you could be better served by acquiring a set of S1's, underclock & undervolt them (to output ~125 GH/s @ - and don't ask me for a link, search the forum!) and replace the fan with a couple of quieter ones in a push pull layout at full pelt, aka blue wire hack; For a tad less power for both compared to your bitfury rig, you'd be laughing!

EDIT: I am currently running a couple of bare S1 boards (neither underclocked  nor undervolted) off cgminer with a fairly loud fan blowing over them and they hold their own as space heaters! Did my laundry drying rather quickly today too, so I can vouch for a couple of these archaic beasts to do the job well.
hero member
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November 14, 2014, 06:50:02 PM
I seem to be having some significant efficiency reduction after upgrading my remaining S1's to S3+.  

You need to clarify (even qualify!) that statement. You SHOULD get a significant improvement either way since an S1 consumes 400 watts for ~200GH/s while an S3+ consumes as much for ~500GH/s. So the question is, what exactly do you mean by a reduction in efficiency?

Is there any known issues with the latest firmware that could cause my efficiency to drop 20% since upgrading?  (I host my own P2Pool node that is how I see the efficiency drop).

It has been said in this thread and a multitude others, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!


Okay so what is going on is my pool that I host here is saying my efficiency is ~80% where it was ~115% before the upgrade. Seems more than suspicious to me...I do see the improvement in hash rate, but with my efficiency tanking I am seeing my deposits drop .02 satoshis or so instead of increasing.  Killing me, smalls!
That means you are either getting a lot more stales than before, or you have set your timeout LOW such that the "dark" HW errors are not showing up in your GUI and your "upgraded"(?)  rigs are thus submiting less shares. You could try increasing the timeout on one unit and see how that affects your earnings, else I'd press the hard reset and revert to the stock firmware. Having said that, (and this is by no means authoritative), did you ever hear of those fabled old tales about the S3 not being optimised for P2Pool, or am I mistaken?
I'll have to ask again, why on earth did you choose to "upgrade" the firmware?

EDIT: I had to say timeout set LOW rather than HIGH
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November 14, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
I seem to be having some significant efficiency reduction after upgrading my remaining S1's to S3+.  

You need to clarify (even qualify!) that statement. You SHOULD get a significant improvement either way since an S1 consumes 400 watts for ~200GH/s while an S3+ consumes as much for ~500GH/s. So the question is, what exactly do you mean by a reduction in efficiency?

Is there any known issues with the latest firmware that could cause my efficiency to drop 20% since upgrading?  (I host my own P2Pool node that is how I see the efficiency drop).

It has been said in this thread and a multitude others, if it ain't broke, don't fix it!


Okay so what is going on is my pool that I host here is saying my efficiency is ~80% where it was ~115% before the upgrade. Seems more than suspicious to me...I do see the improvement in hash rate, but with my efficiency tanking I am seeing my deposits drop .02 satoshis or so instead of increasing.  Killing me, smalls!
legendary
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Christian Antkow
November 14, 2014, 06:33:26 PM
500GH/s bitfury rig? How much wattage does that beast consume, bearing in mind an OC'd S3+ @ 500+ GH/s consumes ~400w?
It's over 1W/GHs by a bit, which is why I'm looking to create a couple quiet S3 space-heaters, and retire the current Bitfury space-heaters.
hero member
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November 14, 2014, 06:14:10 PM
TBH, I have a 500GHs Bitfury rig running in my bedroom that is super quiet. Wink Look for something more efficient (and quiet) to replace it.
How much does that run nowadays?
I'm not sure they are officially available any more. Might get lucky on Fleabay or the Hardware sales section of these forums. I've had the rigs for over a year now they're still chugging along.

500GH/s bitfury rig? How much wattage does that beast consume, bearing in mind an OC'd S3+ @ 500+ GH/s consumes ~400w?
legendary
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Christian Antkow
November 14, 2014, 06:03:36 PM
TBH, I have a 500GHs Bitfury rig running in my bedroom that is super quiet. Wink Look for something more efficient (and quiet) to replace it.
How much does that run nowadays?
I'm not sure they are officially available any more. Might get lucky on Fleabay or the Hardware sales section of these forums. I've had the rigs for over a year now they're still chugging along.
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November 14, 2014, 05:52:17 PM
Not sure if I would want them in my bedroom though

TBH, I have a 500GHs Bitfury rig running in my bedroom that is super quiet. Wink Look for something more efficient (and quiet) to replace it.

How much does that run nowadays?
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