ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 188.

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Quote from: ruslan4040 on September 13, 2014, 04:17:25 PM

Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 12:29:01 PM

I have bitten the bullet and reverted back to the stock cgminer too! I know I will be missing the security updates and a responsive GUI but the drop in hash-rate felt a bit hard to swallow (see my updated results in the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220)

How back to stock cgminer?

You can download the firmware (original code) from Bitmain's site. Uncheck the "keep settings" box to reset to factory defaults when applying the firmware.
https://bitmaintech.com/support.htm

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JUST AN FYI.. for all who are waiting to get S3 upgrade kits for your S1's.....

I underclocked my S1's to 250 and they are running at about 125gh. I am running 2 s1's at this speed on a Corsair cx500 using adaptor cables (4 pin MOLEX to 6 pin PCE) and the cables are not hot. The power efficiency should be way better.
Also , the S1's will not run at 200mhz or 193mhz. They connect to the pool but will not hash.
Edit. I use Corsair cx500's on all S3's too. They never burn cables and they only shut down if they get real hot from room temp.

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Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 12:29:01 PM

I have bitten the bullet and reverted back to the stock cgminer too! I know I will be missing the security updates and a responsive GUI but the drop in hash-rate felt a bit hard to swallow (see my updated results in the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220)

How back to stock cgminer?

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Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 07:52:37 AM

You are welcome.
If you can run 3 OC'ed S1's on that PSU, then by all and any means, it will run 3 S3's without ceremony.
And no, you do not need 4 connections for S3's (OC'ed or otherwise), 2 are perfectly OK so long as they carry the wattage required by your set frequency (which they can as ably demonstrated in the linked thread).

I agree the extra cables for overclocking doesn't make sense as long as your cables can handle. I ran 2 OC'd S1s per RM850 with wattmeter showing 844 watts from the wall with 1 cable to each S1 (each cable has 2 connectors). Did for several months with no overheating of cables or any other problem. Plan on running 2 S3s on the same and wondered why Bitmain would say you need 2 cables (or 4 connectors for each) if you OC'd. I realize that maxing out the 850 causes a 2% loss of efficiency vs. loading them at 50% but I'm not concerned about that.

X3rxis

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Hello guys,
where re the settings to control the fan speed?
is here a starter guide/thread/how to anywhere ?
i updated the firmware already.
Also i 'll install a watercooling system.

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Quote from: bspurloc on September 13, 2014, 12:26:09 PM

Quote from: bspurloc on September 12, 2014, 03:40:00 PM

Quote from: bspurloc on September 12, 2014, 10:13:10 AM

testing cgminer 4.6 again on a single miner now that the DDOS has let up...

It is sitting at 500+ now. I suppose that DDOS that was going on effected my speeds yesterday and or one of those odd blocks that 'seems' harder to work on...

5 hours in... hashing is slowly dropping. at 491gh/s now. 495 is the the set average for old cgminer.
yall sure I dont need to install the newest firmware?

ok 3 miners on 4.6 for over 1 day, all are mining 4gh/s less not faster just one of those things where excitement is skewing actual facts.
the cpu's are definitely less load.
i'll most likely go back to the older cgminer because the risks of hijacked mining arent worth the gh/s loss and the cpu load has no bearing on heat and power use

I have bitten the bullet and reverted back to the stock cgminer too! I know I will be missing the security updates and a responsive GUI but the drop in hash-rate felt a bit hard to swallow (see my updated results in the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220)

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Quote from: bspurloc on September 12, 2014, 03:40:00 PM

Quote from: bspurloc on September 12, 2014, 10:13:10 AM

testing cgminer 4.6 again on a single miner now that the DDOS has let up...

It is sitting at 500+ now. I suppose that DDOS that was going on effected my speeds yesterday and or one of those odd blocks that 'seems' harder to work on...

5 hours in... hashing is slowly dropping. at 491gh/s now. 495 is the the set average for old cgminer.
yall sure I dont need to install the newest firmware?

ok 3 miners on 4.6 for over 1 day, all are mining 4gh/s less not faster just one of those things where excitement is skewing actual facts.
the cpu's are definitely less load.
i'll most likely go back to the older cgminer because the risks of hijacked mining arent worth the gh/s loss and the cpu load has no bearing on heat and power use

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Quote from: Stratobitz on September 13, 2014, 11:43:18 AM

Am I being skimmed?!

I logged into one of my S3 units today, and checked under RealTime Graphs -> Connections.

There's a bunch of really strange domains:ports that seem to come and go, only sending/receiving 1 or 2 packets.

It says the source is the miner IP (static) but then all random 5 digit ports. The destination for these weird pop up connections are:

cheezum.mattnordoff.net:123
Ntp2.h.vporn.com:123
Others...

Of course these are listed with my pool connections as well.

Is this hacking/skimming taking place?

I still have this miner using the default password root for the miner, is it important to change the passwords?

Or is this because I'm in the original cgminer software that came with Batch 7.

Or is this normal. Wink

Many thanks!

Strato

Googling "cheezum.mattnordoff.net:123" and "Ntp2.h.vporn.com:123" indicates that they're NTP servers. Likely these are just NTP servers that are in the NTP pool you're hitting. To be safe though, I would update to the latest firmware and uncheck the box to save settings and update to the latest cgminer (4.6).

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Am I being skimmed?!

I logged into one of my S3 units today, and checked under RealTime Graphs -> Connections.

There's a bunch of really strange domains:ports that seem to come and go, only sending/receiving 1 or 2 packets.

It says the source is the miner IP (static) but then all random 5 digit ports. The destination for these weird pop up connections are:

cheezum.mattnordoff.net:123
Ntp2.h.vporn.com:123
Others...

Of course these are listed with my pool connections as well.

Is this hacking/skimming taking place?

I still have this miner using the default password root for the miner, is it important to change the passwords?

Or is this because I'm in the original cgminer software that came with Batch 7.

Or is this normal. Wink

Many thanks!

Strato

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Quote from: yslyung on September 13, 2014, 10:55:17 AM

Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 07:44:52 AM

Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 03:42:38 AM

Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 03:35:04 AM

Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8? and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two? I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!

1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks. Appreciate the advice. Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner. Ill test when I get the units and report back.

answer is no on a 1200w axi plat corsair, the psu sense an overload (most likely & will power off itself with a red light) even with all 12 pcie's plugged into all 3 s3's. that's what i experienced as it may be different for you.

yes, it is pushing the psu to it's limits. i would rather power 2 with 4 pcies with a mild overclock. * try using psu on a computer & run corsair link & untick the OCP*

keep an eye out as it does heat up very near to the connectors & i find that corsair's pcie connectors melts easily from experience.

i tried powering 1 s3 with 2 different 1200w axi corsairs & it is working fine. (have few different psu brands & had spares so i'm powering them in various configs)

unrelated to the exact question, but EVGA1300 can run 3 S3 overclocked to 237.5.

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Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 07:44:52 AM

Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 03:42:38 AM

Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 03:35:04 AM

Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8? and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two? I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!

1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks. Appreciate the advice. Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner. Ill test when I get the units and report back.

answer is no on a 1200w axi plat corsair, the psu sense an overload (most likely & will power off itself with a red light) even with all 12 pcie's plugged into all 3 s3's. that's what i experienced as it may be different for you.

yes, it is pushing the psu to it's limits. i would rather power 2 with 4 pcies with a mild overclock. * try using psu on a computer & run corsair link & untick the OCP*

keep an eye out as it does heat up very near to the connectors & i find that corsair's pcie connectors melts easily from experience.

i tried powering 1 s3 with 2 different 1200w axi corsairs & it is working fine. (have few different psu brands & had spares so i'm powering them in various configs)

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Quote from: Count_Frackula on September 13, 2014, 10:27:45 AM

Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 07:52:37 AM

Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 07:44:52 AM

Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 03:42:38 AM

Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 03:35:04 AM

Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8? and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two? I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!

1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks. Appreciate the advice. Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner. Ill test when I get the units and report back.

You are welcome.
If you can run 3 OC'ed S1's on that PSU, then by all and any means, it will run 3 S3's without ceremony.
And no, you do not need 4 connections for S3's (OC'ed or otherwise), 2 are perfectly OK so long as they carry the wattage required by your set frequency (which they can as ably demonstrated in the linked thread).

Quote from: ruslan4040 on September 13, 2014, 10:16:44 AM

Sorry, I read all thread, but not understand how psi-e connectors if I want to overlock 250?
And why my S3 overlock to 504 gh, after down to 460-470gh - no x or -?
Thank you?

According to Bitmain, and Dogie's Guide:

Quote from: dogie on July 20, 2014, 04:42:17 PM

Strictly only 2 PCI-E connectors are required at stock speeds, however it will reduce cable temperatures by utilising all 4.

In short, only 2 are required unless you clock beyond 250, but 4 are recommended.

Thank you!
one quetion: how speed better to find blocks?

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Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 07:52:37 AM

Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 07:44:52 AM

Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 03:42:38 AM

Quote from: cloh76 on September 13, 2014, 03:35:04 AM

Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8? and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two? I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!

1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks. Appreciate the advice. Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner. Ill test when I get the units and report back.

You are welcome.
If you can run 3 OC'ed S1's on that PSU, then by all and any means, it will run 3 S3's without ceremony.
And no, you do not need 4 connections for S3's (OC'ed or otherwise), 2 are perfectly OK so long as they carry the wattage required by your set frequency (which they can as ably demonstrated in the linked thread).

Quote from: ruslan4040 on September 13, 2014, 10:16:44 AM

Sorry, I read all thread, but not understand how psi-e connectors if I want to overlock 250?
And why my S3 overlock to 504 gh, after down to 460-470gh - no x or -?
Thank you?

According to Bitmain, and Dogie's Guide:

Quote from: dogie on July 20, 2014, 04:42:17 PM

Strictly only 2 PCI-E connectors are required at stock speeds, however it will reduce cable temperatures by utilising all 4.

In short, only 2 are required unless you clock beyond 250, but 4 are recommended.

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I have to say I chose DHL for shipping this time (to Phoenix, AZ) and it was definitely a better choice than UPS. They even let me put a note on my door to let them leave on the porch without signature.

My new S3+'s are performing almost identically to my Batch 6 S3.

The sticker on the S3+ says S3+. I noticed there are a lot of people who have been selling S3's as S3+'s. While they perform the same and I don't really know of any differences, it is a bit deceptive I think.

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Sorry, I read all thread, but not understand how psi-e connectors if I want to overlock 250?
And why my S3 overlock to 504 gh, after down to 460-470gh - no x or -?
Thank you?

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Quote from: Mineit on September 13, 2014, 09:58:14 AM

That means u probly gonna pay import costs, i had the same issue.
I needed to pay 135 euro's for 2 miners to my delivery man directly! (europe, Netherlands)

Yes, i live in italy and i will pay import costs

X3rxis

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How to set the fan Speed?

Mineit

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Quote from: Giopi on September 13, 2014, 08:42:10 AM

Thanks guy Grin

Thanks for the information,
I thought the worst

That means u probly gonna pay import costs, i had the same issue.
I needed to pay 135 euro's for 2 miners to my delivery man directly! (europe, Netherlands)

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Quote from: pekatete on September 13, 2014, 07:52:37 AM

You are welcome.
If you can run 3 OC'ed S1's on that PSU, then by all and any means, it will run 3 S3's without ceremony.
And no, you do not need 4 connections for S3's (OC'ed or otherwise), 2 are perfectly OK so long as they carry the wattage required by your set frequency (which they can as ably demonstrated in the linked thread).

Just adding my input. Not disagreeing with anyone.

I recently pondered using a 1200W for 3x S3 vs. a 1300W. The 1200W PSU have sprung up like rabbits and are becoming dirt cheap compared to the 1300W. A quick look at NewEgg shows only 3x 1300W PSU's for sale vs. 28x 1200W PSU's, and competition means good prices for us. I see a RAIDMAX GOLD Certified 1200W for only $139 with $20 rebate. Wow! A month ago, a 1200W+ GOLD rated PSU would have cost $200. Anyway, if you use a 1200W PSU for 3x S3's (or S3+), you're running your PSU at 86% utilization. If you use a 1300W PSU, you are running it at 80% utilization. Many have been running miners that require 1000W with 1000W PSU's, so only using 86% does not sound so bad to me. And the price difference is too hard to pass up. I have not received my B8 S3+'s yet, but they are not supposed to take much more electricity, right? Cheers everyone. I like this board. Most are very nice. Happy mining!

Giopi

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Quote from: Bitkoinzz on September 13, 2014, 06:46:44 AM

Quote from: Giopi on September 13, 2014, 06:41:18 AM

What does this mean?

Dont worry, this is normal. It happens on almost all orders for me in the US. It wont slow down your delivery. I get the packages in 2 days after they ship here in the Midwest.

Thanks guy Grin

Thanks for the information,
I thought the worst

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