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sr. member
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September 14, 2014, 07:14:13 AM
Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8?  and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two?  I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!
1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks.  Appreciate the advice.  Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner.  Ill test when I get the units and report back.

answer is no on a 1200w axi plat corsair, the psu sense an overload (most likely & will power off itself with a red light) even with all 12 pcie's plugged into all 3 s3's. that's what i experienced as it may be different for you.

yes, it is pushing the psu to it's limits. i would rather power 2 with 4 pcies with a mild overclock. * try using psu on a computer & run corsair link & untick the OCP*

keep an eye out as it does heat up very near to the connectors & i find that corsair's pcie connectors melts easily from experience.

i tried powering 1 s3 with 2 different 1200w axi corsairs & it is working fine. (have few different psu brands & had spares so i'm powering them in various configs)

I'm running a number of groups of 3 S3 Batch 7 Units off of 1 Corsair 1200axi.  Been running for weeks without a single hiccup. 4 PCI Cables on each unit.

All units clocked to 237.5

Strato

I made need your advice on how to set that up Smiley  My PSU shuts down if I connect to the antminer using the splitter from 1 PCIe cable.  I have had to use a single PCIe cable for each connector which means at most I can use only 2 connectors on each of the 3 S3 antminers (1 can probably have 4 connectors since i have 2 PCIe connectors remaining on my PSU).

Im definitely not experienced on how PSUs work, but i read somewhere it's about distributing the power across the different rails.  I had to do a lot of research to get my current connections and config to work with my prev 3 S1s and now my S3s (just using the same config.)

The Ax1200i is single rail. Your unit should have come with some 8 pin to dual 6/8 pin cables. You can use those. Just use 6 of the 8 pins on the split side.

Keep them on the same unit too. Don't split them up.

Strato

Yup.  That's what I did initially with my S1s and I made sure that the split was on the same miner, but the PSU would shut down with a red light after a few minutes.  When I tried using only one of the 6 pin connectors on the split cable it worked fine, so now I am using 6 cables in order to power the 3 S3s.   Havent tried again on the S3 - figured I would just use what is already working.  If I do end up needing to plug all 4 PCIes per miner I may try again, but for now it's working fine so I'll just leave it Smiley

Thanks though - good to know it's working for you and that if I need it SHOULD work for me as well Smiley
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September 14, 2014, 07:02:19 AM
The fan is to loud so i wanna set up it a lil bit slowlyer but i cant find any how to and the Forum search dont get my hashtags, its crap i think
Fan is too loud? Which fan, the one on the S3 or the one on the PSU?
Also, where do you keep them, under your bed or sofa? Try putting them in the garage or cellar and see if they sound that loud.
newbie
Activity: 56
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September 14, 2014, 07:00:31 AM
The fan is to loud so i wanna set up it a lil bit slowlyer but i cant find any how to and the Forum search dont get my hashtags, its crap i think
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
September 14, 2014, 05:17:41 AM
Cant find anything at yahoo and google about my topic
Hello guys,
where re the settings to control the fan speed?
is here a starter guide/thread/how to  anywhere ?
i updated the firmware already.
Also i 'll install a watercooling system.


Water cooled??? Really?  My S3s work great right out of the box. Just plug em in.
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
September 14, 2014, 05:14:49 AM
Cant find anything at yahoo and google about my topic
Hello guys,
where re the settings to control the fan speed?
is here a starter guide/thread/how to  anywhere ?
i updated the firmware already.
Also i 'll install a watercooling system.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
September 14, 2014, 02:41:08 AM
Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8?  and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two?  I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!
1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks.  Appreciate the advice.  Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner.  Ill test when I get the units and report back.

answer is no on a 1200w axi plat corsair, the psu sense an overload (most likely & will power off itself with a red light) even with all 12 pcie's plugged into all 3 s3's. that's what i experienced as it may be different for you.

yes, it is pushing the psu to it's limits. i would rather power 2 with 4 pcies with a mild overclock. * try using psu on a computer & run corsair link & untick the OCP*

keep an eye out as it does heat up very near to the connectors & i find that corsair's pcie connectors melts easily from experience.

i tried powering 1 s3 with 2 different 1200w axi corsairs & it is working fine. (have few different psu brands & had spares so i'm powering them in various configs)

I'm running a number of groups of 3 S3 Batch 7 Units off of 1 Corsair 1200axi.  Been running for weeks without a single hiccup. 4 PCI Cables on each unit.

All units clocked to 237.5

Strato

I made need your advice on how to set that up Smiley  My PSU shuts down if I connect to the antminer using the splitter from 1 PCIe cable.  I have had to use a single PCIe cable for each connector which means at most I can use only 2 connectors on each of the 3 S3 antminers (1 can probably have 4 connectors since i have 2 PCIe connectors remaining on my PSU).

Im definitely not experienced on how PSUs work, but i read somewhere it's about distributing the power across the different rails.  I had to do a lot of research to get my current connections and config to work with my prev 3 S1s and now my S3s (just using the same config.)

The Ax1200i is single rail. Your unit should have come with some 8 pin to dual 6/8 pin cables. You can use those. Just use 6 of the 8 pins on the split side.

Keep them on the same unit too. Don't split them up.

Strato
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September 14, 2014, 02:38:44 AM
I have bitten the bullet and reverted back to the stock cgminer too! I know I will be missing the security updates and a responsive GUI but the drop in hash-rate felt a bit hard to swallow (see my updated results in the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220)
after reverting back I am seeing the same hashing power...
So I am going to have to assume there is no difference in hashing and those who claimed there was are exaggerating.
 excitable blindness
All I can say is we all have our S3's setup differently. After reverting back to the stock cgminer, both my poolside and GUI hash-rates have increased to their previous rates.
It may not be earth shatteringly faster, but I felt the difference of 15 GH/s a day in my case (approx 10 uBTC / hr ... I think) was worth the risk.
Excitable blindness Huh? Facts are just that: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220
sr. member
Activity: 318
Merit: 250
September 14, 2014, 02:10:21 AM
Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8?  and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two?  I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!
1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks.  Appreciate the advice.  Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner.  Ill test when I get the units and report back.

answer is no on a 1200w axi plat corsair, the psu sense an overload (most likely & will power off itself with a red light) even with all 12 pcie's plugged into all 3 s3's. that's what i experienced as it may be different for you.

yes, it is pushing the psu to it's limits. i would rather power 2 with 4 pcies with a mild overclock. * try using psu on a computer & run corsair link & untick the OCP*

keep an eye out as it does heat up very near to the connectors & i find that corsair's pcie connectors melts easily from experience.

i tried powering 1 s3 with 2 different 1200w axi corsairs & it is working fine. (have few different psu brands & had spares so i'm powering them in various configs)

I'm running a number of groups of 3 S3 Batch 7 Units off of 1 Corsair 1200axi.  Been running for weeks without a single hiccup. 4 PCI Cables on each unit.

All units clocked to 237.5

Strato

I made need your advice on how to set that up Smiley  My PSU shuts down if I connect to the antminer using the splitter from 1 PCIe cable.  I have had to use a single PCIe cable for each connector which means at most I can use only 2 connectors on each of the 3 S3 antminers (1 can probably have 4 connectors since i have 2 PCIe connectors remaining on my PSU).

Im definitely not experienced on how PSUs work, but i read somewhere it's about distributing the power across the different rails.  I had to do a lot of research to get my current connections and config to work with my prev 3 S1s and now my S3s (just using the same config.)
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
September 14, 2014, 02:06:10 AM
Hello guys,
where re the settings to control the fan speed?
is here a starter guide/thread/how to  anywhere ?
i updated the firmware already.
Also i 'll install a watercooling system.
sr. member
Activity: 318
Merit: 250
September 14, 2014, 02:05:04 AM
Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8?  and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two?  I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!
1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks.  Appreciate the advice.  Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner.  Ill test when I get the units and report back.

answer is no on a 1200w axi plat corsair, the psu sense an overload (most likely & will power off itself with a red light) even with all 12 pcie's plugged into all 3 s3's. that's what i experienced as it may be different for you.

yes, it is pushing the psu to it's limits. i would rather power 2 with 4 pcies with a mild overclock. * try using psu on a computer & run corsair link & untick the OCP*

keep an eye out as it does heat up very near to the connectors & i find that corsair's pcie connectors melts easily from experience.

i tried powering 1 s3 with 2 different 1200w axi corsairs & it is working fine. (have few different psu brands & had spares so i'm powering them in various configs)

Update - I am currently running my 3 S3+ B8s on my Corsair AX1200i.  They have been working for the entire day with no issues just as my previous 3 S1s were for months.  I only experienced the shutdown and red light when I initially setup my 3 S1s - I found that this only happened when I used both connectors on a single PCI-e connector.  If I use 1 cable per connector then no issues and it works fine -  which is currently how it's setup.

I also read that this Corsair AX1200i 80 Platinum is very versatile and can handle well above the 1200 watts, which is one of the reasons I purchased this particular PSU aside from it being completely silent.
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September 14, 2014, 01:40:09 AM
Anyone think it would be possible to run (4) S3+ Units off a single EVGA 1300 G2... If perhaps I underclocked them a bit?

Wondering if the loss in hash would actually give better ROI using less PSUs.

Strato
I wouldn't even try it.  Just spend $60 and find a psu on sale for the 4th one.  It's best not to push the psu's to their capacity.

I figured as much. Thanks!

Strato
While I agree that it is best not not push a PSU to capacity, they DO have a 10-year warranty, and that means that EVGA will replace it when (not if) it blows for overuse.  Then again, you'd have the downtime of replacing it, and you'd be losing some money on the overclock too, so it would probably only be worth it if you're nearing the end of that 10-year warranty and want to make it blow on purpose.
legendary
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September 13, 2014, 11:45:00 PM
Anyone think it would be possible to run (4) S3+ Units off a single EVGA 1300 G2... If perhaps I underclocked them a bit?

Wondering if the loss in hash would actually give better ROI using less PSUs.

Strato
I wouldn't even try it.  Just spend $60 and find a psu on sale for the 4th one.  It's best not to push the psu's to their capacity.

I figured as much. Thanks!

Strato
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September 13, 2014, 11:42:38 PM
Anyone think it would be possible to run (4) S3+ Units off a single EVGA 1300 G2... If perhaps I underclocked them a bit?

Wondering if the loss in hash would actually give better ROI using less PSUs.

Strato
I wouldn't even try it.  Just spend $60 and find a psu on sale for the 4th one.  It's best not to push the psu's to their capacity.
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September 13, 2014, 10:28:17 PM
I have bitten the bullet and reverted back to the stock cgminer too! I know I will be missing the security updates and a responsive GUI but the drop in hash-rate felt a bit hard to swallow (see my updated results in the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220)
How back to stock cgminer?

What did you do to update to 4.6? did u rename cgminer? did you copy it to a new directory?

if u deleted it, then here is no need to reinstall firmware, as holding the reset button will reinstall everything again. of course u would need to re setup your s3 again.

if u renamed it then simply
mv /usr/bin/cgminer  /usr/bin/cgminer.46
cp /usr/bin/whatyourenamedittoo   /usr/bin/cgminer

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September 13, 2014, 10:23:09 PM
testing cgminer 4.6 again on a single miner now that the DDOS has let up...

It is sitting at 500+ now. I suppose that DDOS that was going on effected my speeds yesterday and or one of those odd blocks that 'seems' harder to work on...

5 hours in... hashing is slowly dropping. at 491gh/s now. 495 is the the set average for old cgminer.
yall sure I dont need to install the newest firmware?

ok 3 miners on 4.6 for over 1 day, all are mining 4gh/s less not faster just one of those things where excitement is skewing actual facts.
the cpu's are definitely less load.
i'll most likely go back to the older cgminer because the risks of hijacked mining arent worth the gh/s loss and the cpu load has no bearing on heat and power use
I have bitten the bullet and reverted back to the stock cgminer too! I know I will be missing the security updates and a responsive GUI but the drop in hash-rate felt a bit hard to swallow (see my updated results in the OP here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s3-batch-6-overclocking-750220)

after reverting back I am seeing the same hashing power...
So I am going to have to assume there is no difference in hashing and those who claimed there was are exaggerating.
 excitable blindness
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
September 13, 2014, 09:58:51 PM
Anyone think it would be possible to run (4) S3+ Units off a single EVGA 1300 G2... If perhaps I underclocked them a bit?

Wondering if the loss in hash would actually give better ROI using less PSUs.

Strato
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
September 13, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Am I being skimmed?!

I logged into one of my S3 units today, and checked under RealTime Graphs -> Connections.

There's a bunch of really strange domains:ports that seem to come and go, only sending/receiving 1 or 2 packets.

It says the source is the miner IP (static) but then all random 5 digit ports.  The destination for these weird pop up connections are:

cheezum.mattnordoff.net:123
Ntp2.h.vporn.com:123
Others...

Of course these are listed with my pool connections as well.

Is this hacking/skimming taking place?

I still have this miner using the default password root for the miner, is it important to change the passwords?

Or is this because I'm in the original cgminer software that came with Batch 7.

Or is this normal. Wink

Many thanks!

Strato

Googling "cheezum.mattnordoff.net:123" and "Ntp2.h.vporn.com:123" indicates that they're NTP servers.  Likely these are just NTP servers that are in the NTP pool you're hitting.  To be safe though, I would update to the latest firmware and uncheck the box to save settings and update to the latest cgminer (4.6).

Ok thank you I appreciate you taking a look at this!

Strato
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1010
September 13, 2014, 09:50:51 PM
Besides security, what performance or efficiency gains will I get from the cgminer update on my S3+ B8?  and Do I even need to update?

Also because I have the overclocked from the factory S3+ B8 do I need to plug in all 4 PCIe cables or am I OK still only plugging in two?  I plan on putting 3 S3s into 1 1200 watt PSU (Corsair AX1200i)

Thanks in Advance for your response!!
1. cgminer 4.6 has bugfixes for some security holes, however, in terms of performance gains, the jury is still out (see update to OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750220.new#new, suffice to say it will reduce the load on your controller.
2. Running 3 S3 units at stock on a 1200 watt PSU will push it to the max. I personally would run only 2 on that.

Thanks.  Appreciate the advice.  Very comprehensive information!!

Since my 1200 watt PSU was able to easily handle 3 S1 Antminers overclocked to 200GH Im confident that it can handle 3 S3+ Antminers, that is unless 4 PCIe Connectors are required per miner.  Ill test when I get the units and report back.

answer is no on a 1200w axi plat corsair, the psu sense an overload (most likely & will power off itself with a red light) even with all 12 pcie's plugged into all 3 s3's. that's what i experienced as it may be different for you.

yes, it is pushing the psu to it's limits. i would rather power 2 with 4 pcies with a mild overclock. * try using psu on a computer & run corsair link & untick the OCP*

keep an eye out as it does heat up very near to the connectors & i find that corsair's pcie connectors melts easily from experience.

i tried powering 1 s3 with 2 different 1200w axi corsairs & it is working fine. (have few different psu brands & had spares so i'm powering them in various configs)

I'm running a number of groups of 3 S3 Batch 7 Units off of 1 Corsair 1200axi.  Been running for weeks without a single hiccup. 4 PCI Cables on each unit.

All units clocked to 237.5

Strato
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Glow Stick Dance!
September 13, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
Thank you!
one quetion: how speed better to find blocks?

Oh c'mon! Google Translate works better than that.   Roll Eyes

Please try again because no on can answer a question that doesn't make any sense.
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September 13, 2014, 08:06:26 PM
JUST AN FYI.. for all who are waiting to get S3 upgrade kits for your S1's.....

I underclocked my S1's to 250 and they are running at about 125gh. I am running 2 s1's at this speed on a Corsair cx500 using adaptor cables (4 pin MOLEX to 6 pin PCE) and the cables are not hot. The power efficiency should be way better.
Also , the S1's will not run at 200mhz or 193mhz. They connect to the pool but will not hash.
Edit. I use Corsair cx500's on all S3's too. They never burn cables and they only shut down if they get real hot from room temp.
Check the undervolt thread for S1 at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-undervolt-antminer-s1-119wgh-at-the-wall-526060.  To improve the efficiency of the S1 you'll need to undervolt it as well as underclocking.  You'll gain the efficiency, but at the expense of hash rate.  The S1 to S3+ upgrade gives you both an efficiency improvement as well as more than double the hash rate (but the value for money is debatable).

Cheers
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