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Hello im new in mining what power supplier and how many watts is required for s3? Im planning to get 20 miners anybody here knows how to setup a plan like this? Please share thank you

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Hello im new in mining what power supplier and how many watts is required for s3? Im planning to get 20 miners anybody here knows how to setup a plan like this? Please share thank you
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Hey all,

What the chart below graphs is 12 S3's (upper band) and 12 S1's (lower band) and indicates that the S3's have a lot more "jitter" or volatility in hashing rate than S1's. I think when tweaking them, taking a longer term running average is more indicative of any improvements/degradations. My opinion is that changes should be evaluated over days versus hours.

And as we all know: "Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one and they all stink."
And yes we hash at the pool that shall not be named.


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Thursday, August 07, 2014    Location    Time    
8    Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
7    Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
6    Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    00:37    
Wednesday, August 06, 2014    Location    Time    
5    Customs status updated    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    23:29  
4    Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:31  
3    Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:09    
2    Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    21:50    
1    Shipment picked up    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    19:04


Is this package moving along normal or is this a not so good delay in Hong Kong?
looks good so far.... see if it updates by dinner with a delivery estimate for tomorrow..

9    Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    13:00    
8    Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
7    Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31   
6    Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    00:37    


Processed again? Does this mean it may be in another facility in Hong Kong? I'll have to search the thread again, I really don't want to be a victim of those packages that keep getting stuck in a location Sad
 
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So! All units are hashing over 440gh (Two over 490), but only when using a cronjob to restart the cgminer service every 1/2 hour - 1hr depending on the miner.
Regardless of how long I leave any of these guys up to "stabilize", they always fall to 390-398 after 48 hours.

There's only one thing. I am noticing a rather high number of duplicate shares poolside since starting this restart routine. (surprise)
Is there a cgminer flag among the bitmain options to clear the asic of all work upon a cgminer restart? I know the A1 miners have a similar command with '--hwreset'
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So..my five S3s have been up just short of a full day.  The variability in hash rate is significantly larger than the S1s.  On the left of the graph below are seven S1s (note the tight range in which they hashed)...on the right are five S3s...big difference in hash rate variability...anyone have a theory as to why this is so?

You're looking at poolside charts so most likely it's just pool difficulty that's causing some variance. Try setting it lower if you can or just forget it and watch the long term averages and miner's UI.

Edit: here is my chart for 2 S3s, red dotted line is 860 MH/s and it's averaging 882.50 for the last 24h. Very nice and steady as far as I'm concerned.

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So..my five S3s have been up just short of a full day.  The variability in hash rate is significantly larger than the S1s.  On the left of the graph below are seven S1s (note the tight range in which they hashed)...on the right are five S3s...big difference in hash rate variability...anyone have a theory as to why this is so?



These new chips out these days are not that great. Not just Bitmain but other companies also. I have several new miners and they are all like that. The BE200 chips are doing the same thing. Also it doesn't appear like chips are getting graded like they used to and the miners are semi overclocked from the factory, so they are already being pushed so the manufactures could use less chips and make bigger profits. These new chips do not tolerate heat like some of the A-grade older generations could. Also, we are still using older mining software with these new chips, they have polished it up a little now, but it's still the same cgminer/Bfgminer on top of a stratum proxy running underneath the web interface. Hopefully as time goes on newer firmware with help.
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Thursday, August 07, 2014    Location    Time    
8    Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
7    Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
6    Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    00:37    
Wednesday, August 06, 2014    Location    Time    
5    Customs status updated    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    23:29  
4    Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:31  
3    Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:09    
2    Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    21:50    
1    Shipment picked up    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    19:04


Is this package moving along normal or is this a not so good delay in Hong Kong?
looks good so far.... see if it updates by dinner with a delivery estimate for tomorrow..
Will do, hopefully it leaves Hong Kong sooner than later  Grin
I've read too many horror stories in the thread
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Thursday, August 07, 2014    Location    Time    
8    Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
7    Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
6    Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    00:37    
Wednesday, August 06, 2014    Location    Time    
5    Customs status updated    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    23:29  
4    Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:31  
3    Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:09    
2    Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    21:50    
1    Shipment picked up    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    19:04


Is this package moving along normal or is this a not so good delay in Hong Kong?
looks good so far.... see if it updates by dinner with a delivery estimate for tomorrow..
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Thursday, August 07, 2014    Location    Time    
8    Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
7    Clearance processing complete at HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    01:31    
6    Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    00:37    
Wednesday, August 06, 2014    Location    Time    
5    Customs status updated    HONG KONG - HONG KONG    23:29  
4    Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:31  
3    Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    22:09    
2    Arrived at Sort Facility SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    21:50    
1    Shipment picked up    SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC    19:04


Is this package moving along normal or is this a not so good delay in Hong Kong?
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So..my five S3s have been up just short of a full day.  The variability in hash rate is significantly larger than the S1s.  On the left of the graph below are seven S1s (note the tight range in which they hashed)...on the right are five S3s...big difference in hash rate variability...anyone have a theory as to why this is so?

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I have two Antminer S3 that are both hashing at 440GBs. They both are running at the stock frequency of 218.75 but one if the miners has 20% HW errors. I have read many people are lowering the frequency to 215 or 212.75 to lower power consumption. I was hoping maybe reducing the frequency might help my HW errors. However I cannot find where to lower the frequency. I have done scrypt mining, but this is my first sha256 mining. If someone could help explain to me how to lower the frequency I would greatly appreciate it.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7898821
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I have two Antminer S3 that are both hashing at 440GBs. They both are running at the stock frequency of 218.75 but one if the miners has 20% HW errors. I have read many people are lowering the frequency to 215 or 212.75 to lower power consumption. I was hoping maybe reducing the frequency might help my HW errors. However I cannot find where to lower the frequency. I have done scrypt mining, but this is my first sha256 mining. If someone could help explain to me how to lower the frequency I would greatly appreciate it.
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Nice, thank you for the link.. is this the same one you got ? each S3 require only 1 antenna or 2 ?

Exact same one I used.  I have five S3s up and running for nearly 24 hours...should average right at 440GH/s (stock clock) on WiFi in two separate locations in a fairly large house. Each miner only needs one pigtail/antenna. $11 gets you two pigtails and two antennae.  The only issue is that unless you drill a hole in the miner case and properly mount the antenna end of the pigtail, it could be pretty easy to break the pigtail or yank it off the comm board. Since I just set mine up and let 'em run, I'm not worried about it...I just route the pigtail through the cutout for the front fan wires and prop the antenna on the top of fan case/front of the miner.



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received my 10 S3's yesterday and got them up and running. no problems once I figured out that one of them didn't change off of 192.168.1.99 which has an S2 running on it.  anyway, 10 perfectly running S3's makes me very happy!

still waiting on my other couple ordered from batch 5, no tracking received for those.
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Nice, thank you for the link.. is this the same one you got ? each S3 require only 1 antenna or 2 ?
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Bitmain,

Could you let us know about the upgrade kits for S1s and S2s? When will these be available? I'd like to upgrade all of my S1s. Also, will the DC/DC component be fixed in these?
Why bother? What cost savings are you expecting to realize from reusing an aluminum frame and maybe the controller? $40?

The benefit is not only coming from the $40 but the discount for upgrading blades.
What discount? And why would Bitmain charge less for blades use in an S1 upgrade vs an S3 purchase?

Because BitMainTech is a company doing "BUSINESS".
got it - thanks for your input. If it wasn't worth their while or worth making money off of I don;t think they would have offered in the first place. There is obviously some business sense for them to be able to turn a profit selling kits or they wouldn't bother suggesting it at all.
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Just got five Batch 5's. Added wifi antennas to all.  Configured exactly like S1s. Too early to give longer term stats, but...I have about 80% signal (@60 ft with 3 walls between miners and router - exactly the same as the S1's).  One hour hash rate is ~440 - 450GH/s.  

Wifi mod is less than 6 bucks a miner.  I didn't drill any holes...just ran the pigtail through the same slot as front fan wires and propped the antenna on the top of the fan case/face of the miner (not great, but I hardly touch the miners once running properly so this should be fine...no need for switch or network cabling -- Just configure, plug 'em in and mine)...even with the mod, I had all 5 up and running in about an hour and a half.  

I will update with longer term stats after a day or two. Only issue was one fan that had a pinched sensor wire (blue)...so the fan ran full blast...unpinched wire...all is good.  The S3s are MUCH quieter than the S1s (at least at stock clock)

Once again, BITMAIN ROCKS!




which wifi did you buy ? link or pic ? thanks

These work with virtually no effort

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DP64JRG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Does anyone happen to know what the wattage usage is of the S3 at each frequency?  I'd like to put together a web form that takes the current Bitcoin price and the price you pay for electricity and then figures out what frequency would be best in terms of efficiency.  I could hook the units up to a watt meter and figure this out myself, but was curious if anyone had already done it and can save me the trouble?  (Or if there is a defined ratio, I could use that as well I guess.)

I'll make the site public and then potentially add other miners to it if they offer the same ability to change wattage/frequency and I have access to the numbers.   Maybe I'll call it Intelihash.   Haha...



my 2 s-3's on an evga gold 1300 watt at freq 237.5 pull 730 watts.
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In stock mode with the ASICs at 218.75, how much power does an S3 pull?  The OP says 366 watts, while dogie's guide says 340.  If it's 340 I should be able to run 4 S3's off of one regular 120v circuit right?  340x4 = 1360 watts.  That's about 75% utilization of power...  Should be within the safe zone..

On a 120V Grid Supply, you can run as much S3 as your money can buy.
What matters is the available Ampere to your house or farm.
For 120V the PSU efficiency is lower than 230V.
Multiply your 120V with the maximum available amps which allow through your breaker.
Make up your S3 power consumption to 125% and divide it from your above figure.
The number you got now is the maximum no of S3s you can run maximum or that's the maximum load you can have through that beaker.
For example if your house have 100A/120V and through a 20A breaker,
20A*120V=2400W
340W*125%=425W
2400/425=5.6 = 5 S3.

I'm in Virginia, USA.  I'm not exactly sure what my service is, but I'm running nine (9) S3's - stock clock ~, six (6) OC's KnC Jupiters ~900Gh/s, and three (3) Spondoolies SP10 Dawsons ~1.2Th/s. 

The power company came out to my house once to see why my bill was so high (approx. $800 a month).  The guy was interested in finding out more about Bitcoin.  I gave him some info. and he went on his way.

I am in the process of purchasing a small commercial space and will cut my electricity costs in half, plus have a long-term investment in the property.

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