ANTMINER S3+ Discussion and Support Thread - page 88.

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Quote from: sbogovac on December 29, 2014, 03:38:09 AM

Quote from: dogie on December 29, 2014, 02:47:07 AM

Quote from: 1Neptune on December 29, 2014, 01:40:42 AM

Just wondering, since these things run on 12v, has anyone tried running an S1 or S3 using a car battery?

Why? At best you'll get a few hours of a decent one and a battery will typically drop voltage as it discharges. Both of those don't really make them appropriate for mining with.

Maybe to run it of an old disel engine running on some cheap (disgarded/cooking/frying?) oil... Huh

The idea originated as an off the cuff semi-technical discussion around could you, then very quickly turned to should you. Could, yes. Should, no. For the reasons dogie cited, of course.

Where's a functioning water mill with 12v generator attached to provide extremely cheap energy to run miners when you need one?

Answer: Not around here. Sad

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Quote from: dogie on December 29, 2014, 02:47:07 AM

Quote from: 1Neptune on December 29, 2014, 01:40:42 AM

Just wondering, since these things run on 12v, has anyone tried running an S1 or S3 using a car battery?

Why? At best you'll get a few hours of a decent one and a battery will typically drop voltage as it discharges. Both of those don't really make them appropriate for mining with.

Maybe to run it of an old disel engine running on some cheap (disgarded/cooking/frying?) oil... Huh

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Quote from: 1Neptune on December 29, 2014, 01:40:42 AM

Just wondering, since these things run on 12v, has anyone tried running an S1 or S3 using a car battery?

Why? At best you'll get a few hours of a decent one and a battery will typically drop voltage as it discharges. Both of those don't really make them appropriate for mining with.

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Can someone please explain what this means and should I disable it in DHCP and DNS selection ?

DNS rebinding protection is active, will discard upstream RFC1918 responses!

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Just wondering, since these things run on 12v, has anyone tried running an S1 or S3 using a car battery?

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Quote from: dog1965 on December 28, 2014, 07:58:24 PM

Anybody use BITMAIN's ANTPOOL site if so my workers keep popping in and out when I use the P2P link but not the solo link can anyone help. I like P2P better ?

I've had no problems with the solo side, but have not tried the P2P side.

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Quote from: dog1965 on December 28, 2014, 07:58:24 PM

Anybody use BITMAIN's ANTPOOL site if so my workers keep popping in and out when I use the P2P link but not the solo link can anyone help. I like P2P better ?

Cry

You already know the solution for true P2Pool....

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Anybody use BITMAIN's ANTPOOL site if so my workers keep popping in and out when I use the P2P link but not the solo link can anyone help. I like P2P better ?

Cry

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Quote from: soy on December 27, 2014, 12:52:16 PM

Quote from: soy on December 27, 2014, 12:23:17 PM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 11:47:36 AM

Quote from: aclass on December 27, 2014, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

Have you tried on a different outlet not connected to the dedicated breaker? Somewhere else in the house

Yes Same issue.

I use cheap power supplies the output of which vary with line voltage fluctuations. When the summer heat abated and AC's were shut down in the evening, my AC would jump to 125VAC or more and my one of my miner's power supplies would go over 13vdc causing a shutdown. The cheap power supplies have an output adjustment. Lowering the voltage the miner was back up and running. The next day was hot and AC's went back on in the neighborhood. The AC went back to 120-122VAC. The adjusted power supplies output dropped and the miner shut down for low voltage. I readjusted and all was well.

For a lark, I'd suggest measuring your power supply output at home while the miner is running then again at your friend's home.

I note these cheap supplies aren't a good choice. When the AC voltage rose a metal oxide varistor on the input voltage of one supply burned up. No way to compensate for that kind of failure as the MOV sees the incoming voltage. Also, another supply saw the bridge burn up. So, I now add heatsinks to all the supplies bridge diodes. Finally, I change out the 1 turn mismarked trim pot for a 25 turn so as to get the voltages as even as possible before applying a load. I want the supplies at the 50% load so I need two per S3.

I also add a 6 amp line filter to the AC input.

Not all the supplies had the 1 turn trimpot swapped for a 25 turn. I took the time to change out some today. I found another supply with a damaged MOV but besides the MOV having a major crack, and fortunately I had purchased a number when end of summer one went completely bad as neighborhood AC shut down, there was a blown 35v cap. Having a dead unit for parts came in handy as I didn't have that value on hand otherwise. I knew the adjusted voltage output rose and fell with AC rise and fall, I just didn't expect that an internal voltage limit expectation would be violated. That or it was just a cheap cap that blew when stressed with a higher than normal voltage. Interestingly the S3 was running okay even tho that cap had been blown.

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Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 03:49:46 PM

Quote from: soy on December 27, 2014, 12:52:16 PM

Quote from: soy on December 27, 2014, 12:23:17 PM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 11:47:36 AM

Quote from: aclass on December 27, 2014, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

Have you tried on a different outlet not connected to the dedicated breaker? Somewhere else in the house

Yes Same issue.

I use cheap power supplies the output of which vary with line voltage fluctuations. When the summer heat abated and AC's were shut down in the evening, my AC would jump to 125VAC or more and my one of my miner's power supplies would go over 13vdc causing a shutdown. The cheap power supplies have an output adjustment. Lowering the voltage the miner was back up and running. The next day was hot and AC's went back on in the neighborhood. The AC went back to 120-122VAC. The adjusted power supplies output dropped and the miner shut down for low voltage. I readjusted and all was well.

For a lark, I'd suggest measuring your power supply output at home while the miner is running then again at your friend's home.

I note these cheap supplies aren't a good choice. When the AC voltage rose a metal oxide varistor on the input voltage of one supply burned up. No way to compensate for that kind of failure as the MOV sees the incoming voltage. Also, another supply saw the bridge burn up. So, I now add heatsinks to all the supplies bridge diodes. Finally, I change out the 1 turn mismarked trim pot for a 25 turn so as to get the voltages as even as possible before applying a load. I want the supplies at the 50% load so I need two per S3.

I also add a 6 amp line filter to the AC input.

I use a line conditioner ON the AC input of the PSU then plug line conditioner into wall outlet. This should help your case because it keeps your ac voltage constant when it goes to high or to low.

Back in the early '80's I was an engineering aide with North Hills Electronics. There were two products lines with which I was tasked. An uninterruptable power supply in prototype development and line conditioners which were an existing product line of various sizes. The line conditioners at their most simple were multi-output transformers with circuitry to shift between outputs to maintain the line out in a best window.

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Hmmm, This circuit is on the hash board on Bitmains miners it steps down and also regulates the voltage for the bm1382 chip. It was designed to dissipate less heat then the OLD 7805 regulator which I like Much better. This is a Dirty circuit with a couple of capacitors and resistors on the front and back of the hash board. Circuits like this have to be built with more components than that just look at a new pc motherboards!!! same circuits a lot more to it more advanced works like it should. Bitmain should have used a variable voltage regulator like the 7805 voltage regulator only variable this would have been more stable less hash rate drops!!!!

Every time your hash rate drops look at the kilowatt AC power meter is drops as well. I think it is because of the CHEAP BUCK CIRCUIT bitmain uses.

If this circuit is not stable your power from the wall will drop along with your hash rate.

Foolish sarcastic childish comments not needed. Only sensible ones!!!!

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Quote from: soy on December 27, 2014, 12:52:16 PM

Quote from: soy on December 27, 2014, 12:23:17 PM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 11:47:36 AM

Quote from: aclass on December 27, 2014, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

Have you tried on a different outlet not connected to the dedicated breaker? Somewhere else in the house

Yes Same issue.

I use cheap power supplies the output of which vary with line voltage fluctuations. When the summer heat abated and AC's were shut down in the evening, my AC would jump to 125VAC or more and my one of my miner's power supplies would go over 13vdc causing a shutdown. The cheap power supplies have an output adjustment. Lowering the voltage the miner was back up and running. The next day was hot and AC's went back on in the neighborhood. The AC went back to 120-122VAC. The adjusted power supplies output dropped and the miner shut down for low voltage. I readjusted and all was well.

For a lark, I'd suggest measuring your power supply output at home while the miner is running then again at your friend's home.

I note these cheap supplies aren't a good choice. When the AC voltage rose a metal oxide varistor on the input voltage of one supply burned up. No way to compensate for that kind of failure as the MOV sees the incoming voltage. Also, another supply saw the bridge burn up. So, I now add heatsinks to all the supplies bridge diodes. Finally, I change out the 1 turn mismarked trim pot for a 25 turn so as to get the voltages as even as possible before applying a load. I want the supplies at the 50% load so I need two per S3.

I also add a 6 amp line filter to the AC input.

I use this line conditioner ON the AC input of the PSU then plug line conditioner into wall outlet. This should help your case because it keeps your ac voltage constant when it goes to high or to low.

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Quote from: soy on December 27, 2014, 12:23:17 PM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 11:47:36 AM

Quote from: aclass on December 27, 2014, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

Have you tried on a different outlet not connected to the dedicated breaker? Somewhere else in the house

Yes Same issue.

I use cheap power supplies the output of which vary with line voltage fluctuations. When the summer heat abated and AC's were shut down in the evening, my AC would jump to 125VAC or more and my one of my miner's power supplies would go over 13vdc causing a shutdown. The cheap power supplies have an output adjustment. Lowering the voltage the miner was back up and running. The next day was hot and AC's went back on in the neighborhood. The AC went back to 120-122VAC. The adjusted power supplies output dropped and the miner shut down for low voltage. I readjusted and all was well.

For a lark, I'd suggest measuring your power supply output at home while the miner is running then again at your friend's home.

I note these cheap supplies aren't a good choice. When the AC voltage rose a metal oxide varistor on the input voltage of one supply burned up. No way to compensate for that kind of failure as the MOV sees the incoming voltage. Also, another supply saw the bridge burn up. So, I now add heatsinks to all the supplies bridge diodes. Finally, I change out the 1 turn mismarked trim pot for a 25 turn so as to get the voltages as even as possible before applying a load. I want the supplies at the 50% load so I need two per S3.

I also add a 6 amp line filter to the AC input.

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Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 11:47:36 AM

Quote from: aclass on December 27, 2014, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

Have you tried on a different outlet not connected to the dedicated breaker? Somewhere else in the house

Yes Same issue.

I use cheap power supplies the output of which vary with line voltage fluctuations. When the summer heat abated and AC's were shut down in the evening, my AC would jump to 125VAC or more and my one of my miner's power supplies would go over 13vdc causing a shutdown. The cheap power supplies have an output adjustment. Lowering the voltage the miner was back up and running. The next day was hot and AC's went back on in the neighborhood. The AC went back to 120-122VAC. The adjusted power supplies output dropped and the miner shut down for low voltage. I readjusted and all was well.

For a lark, I'd suggest measuring your power supply output at home while the miner is running then again at your friend's home.

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Quote from: aclass on December 27, 2014, 10:27:07 AM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

Have you tried on a different outlet not connected to the dedicated breaker? Somewhere else in the house

Yes Same issue.

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Quote from: soy on December 25, 2014, 08:45:29 PM

Putting the 4 hashing boards from two S3+'s into a single box - one could mount a second controller board and remove the stick-on cover over the second RJ45 hole. It would be as if running the two S3+'s, two ethernet cables, but the water or liquid cooling would be a plus especially taking advantage of putting the heat outside while the machine is inside.

Removing the sticker wouldn't be enough to allow the RJ45 access to be used as the controller boards would overlap. Perhaps cutting away above the RJ45 access and putting the second controller board on standoffs would allow both to fit.

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Quote from: dogie on December 26, 2014, 12:45:19 PM

Quote from: Duce on December 26, 2014, 12:43:00 PM

Quote from: dogie on December 26, 2014, 02:11:43 AM

Quote from: Duce on December 26, 2014, 12:02:39 AM

From BitmainWarranty: "C1 uses a similar looking PCB to S3 or S3+ hashing PCB, but it is little different, so Please DO NOT mix them as the connector even facing differently."

So the C1 boards are NOT S3 boards just a bit clocked up correct? Just for clarification please.

In terms of hashing power they are.

Wow now I do see what others are saying is true.

When I first started reading your review threads over a year ago I really got behind what you were providing to the community, they were both very helpful to most, and an enjoyment to read. I am not sure what happened but maybe you have spread yourself a little thin.

Your justification for the inaccurate answer you provided to the original question is childish at best I am sad to say. Please try to get back on point Doge.

Sorry, half my post is missing there (was on a phone). He is right, the PCB is not identical as there are some modifications to aid the use of waterblocks.

So, the water block required modifications made to the PCB? Is it a case of physical interference or repositioned mounting holes so as not to tap into fluid channels?

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Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

Have you tried on a different outlet not connected to the dedicated breaker? Somewhere else in the house

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Quote from: aarons6 on December 27, 2014, 05:53:15 AM

Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

power isnt everything..

these miners have a mind of their own..

i highly doubt you are reaching 20 amps..

you can try to wire in an outlet to 220.. i hear people have good success with this.

As long as you're a professional, know what you're doing and can do it safely. The last thing you want to do is burn your house down, incur a hefty bill from the power company for repairs or invalidate your home insurance.

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Quote from: dog1965 on December 27, 2014, 05:30:39 AM

Hmmm, I have a 1300 SUPERNOVA G2 Running two aintminer S3's My electric service to my house is 120v 50 amp "MAIN BREAKER" My miners are on a 20 amp sub breaker by itself. I really need 100 amp service I Don't think Adequate Power is coming from the wall that's why this happens. I took them to my cousins house he has 100 amp 220v service I can oc them to 524 "262" and they work fine.

power isnt everything..

these miners have a mind of their own..

i highly doubt you are reaching 20 amps..

you can try to wire in an outlet to 220.. i hear people have good success with this.

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