Topic: ANTMINER S4 2TH/s, Batch 1 on Sale this week, shipping before Sept. Ends - page 13. (Read 33454 times)
September 24, 2014, 07:16:48 AM
Unfortuanately, if they wait much longer not only will it be annoying but more importantly if shipping is delayed by the same amount of time i.e. two weeks these will be even harder to make any ROI
September 24, 2014, 05:09:07 AM
I just got an email notification of a HTML change on the S4 page. Says the weight was changed. Looks teh same though.
That was when the site came back up. It's not that the weight changed - just that either the weight field was added, or moved up (above price).(Only reason I know is because I had a monitor set for the antminer u2 to keep an eye on any price changes for it. It used an xpath that effectively grabbed the second element that had the "amount" class, and it suddenly reported that the price went from "10.8" (BTC) to "0 kg"
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September 24, 2014, 12:08:38 AM
I just got an email notification of a HTML change on the S4 page. Says the weight was changed.
Looks teh same though.
Looks teh same though.
September 23, 2014, 10:45:40 PM
I don't think you understood the question. I have a farm with 79 Terrahashs of Bitmain and Avalon equipment. I wanted to
know if anyone, off the top of their head, has done the calculations for the ROI on ONLY the S4 based on rumored price
and the crap performance of the coins value over the last month (and of course taking into consideration the difficulty swings).
There are too many conflicting stories out there from people that don't have a clue about much else than sitting at home with
their three S1's just "burn'n up" the pool they're in and thinking they have all the answers. (I haven't even met people with
more than I have with all the answers!)
know if anyone, off the top of their head, has done the calculations for the ROI on ONLY the S4 based on rumored price
and the crap performance of the coins value over the last month (and of course taking into consideration the difficulty swings).
There are too many conflicting stories out there from people that don't have a clue about much else than sitting at home with
their three S1's just "burn'n up" the pool they're in and thinking they have all the answers. (I haven't even met people with
more than I have with all the answers!)
Too much speculation at this point. The currently low exchange rate and the rapidly increasing network difficulty makes ROI very difficult.
A single unit to ROI on its single earnings will possibly never happen.
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator
People will be paying for electricity cost before earning enough profit from mining will have paid off the unit.
Of course this does not apply to people applying other earnings and profit from previous units that have already ROI. I'm simply referring to if you buy 1 antminer s3 today, in about 3 months you'll be paying for electricity to run it out of pocket.
September 23, 2014, 09:04:46 PM
I don't think you understood the question. I have a farm with 79 Terrahashs of Bitmain and Avalon equipment. I wanted to
know if anyone, off the top of their head, has done the calculations for the ROI on ONLY the S4 based on rumored price
and the crap performance of the coins value over the last month (and of course taking into consideration the difficulty swings).
There are too many conflicting stories out there from people that don't have a clue about much else than sitting at home with
their three S1's just "burn'n up" the pool they're in and thinking they have all the answers. (I haven't even met people with
more than I have with all the answers!)
know if anyone, off the top of their head, has done the calculations for the ROI on ONLY the S4 based on rumored price
and the crap performance of the coins value over the last month (and of course taking into consideration the difficulty swings).
There are too many conflicting stories out there from people that don't have a clue about much else than sitting at home with
their three S1's just "burn'n up" the pool they're in and thinking they have all the answers. (I haven't even met people with
more than I have with all the answers!)
Too much speculation at this point. The currently low exchange rate and the rapidly increasing network difficulty makes ROI very difficult.
September 23, 2014, 08:57:32 PM
quote author=Pt0x link=topic=784897.msg8943615#msg8943615 date=1411499483]
No, they said on twitter and also on their website "THIS WEEK".
can you point me to the official twitter feed of bitmain?
thanks
I'm guessing Bitmain literally means before September ends, like literally shipping on the 31st.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
No, they said on twitter and also on their website "THIS WEEK".
can you point me to the official twitter feed of bitmain?
thanks
Nothing on twitter about it anymore than on the forums here.
Thinking about it, does anyone have any idea on the ROI if the S4 comes out at $1500? Rumors have been circulating that
the ROI numbers would have you running well outside 6 months before a profit can be had and that's only if the difficulty rate
stays at an average of 20% a month which, I would now doubt, especially with Bitmain running up another 7PH/s in over 4300
S2 machines that came online. (I can't even imagine seeing 4300 machines in a room just sitting there let alone all hooked up
and hashing away!) China Power must have substations sitting on Bitmains roof!!! LOL
If you have to ask these questions, STAY AWAY FROM MINING!
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I don't think you understood the question. I have a farm with 79 Terrahashs of Bitmain and Avalon equipment. I wanted to
know if anyone, off the top of their head, has done the calculations for the ROI on ONLY the S4 based on rumored price
and the crap performance of the coins value over the last month (and of course taking into consideration the difficulty swings).
There are too many conflicting stories out there from people that don't have a clue about much else than sitting at home with
their three S1's just "burn'n up" the pool they're in and thinking they have all the answers. (I haven't even met people with
more than I have with all the answers!)
September 23, 2014, 08:45:27 PM
I think it is better that they are late taking orders than taking orders early and shipping late like so many other companies.
I agree completely. At least this way your btc isn't tied up in a pre-order. September 23, 2014, 08:21:14 PM
I think it is better that they are late taking orders than taking orders early and shipping late like so many other companies.
September 23, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
I stumbled across an advert for the S4 on these forums, which actually contains some details:
Good find. 0.5-0.7 is a very wide range, sounds like they don't have a working prototype yet.
September 23, 2014, 07:43:26 PM
I stumbled across an advert for the S4 on these forums, which actually contains some details:
September 23, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
There are many calculators to help figure ROI, here is one that should give you a general idea. http://dustcoin.com/mining.
Then can sit back and decide if this is something you want to get into as a hobby or for future investment.
Then can sit back and decide if this is something you want to get into as a hobby or for future investment.
September 23, 2014, 06:53:30 PM
quote author=Pt0x link=topic=784897.msg8943615#msg8943615 date=1411499483]
No, they said on twitter and also on their website "THIS WEEK".
can you point me to the official twitter feed of bitmain?
thanks
I'm guessing Bitmain literally means before September ends, like literally shipping on the 31st.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
No, they said on twitter and also on their website "THIS WEEK".
can you point me to the official twitter feed of bitmain?
thanks
Nothing on twitter about it anymore than on the forums here.
Thinking about it, does anyone have any idea on the ROI if the S4 comes out at $1500? Rumors have been circulating that
the ROI numbers would have you running well outside 6 months before a profit can be had and that's only if the difficulty rate
stays at an average of 20% a month which, I would now doubt, especially with Bitmain running up another 7PH/s in over 4300
S2 machines that came online. (I can't even imagine seeing 4300 machines in a room just sitting there let alone all hooked up
and hashing away!) China Power must have substations sitting on Bitmains roof!!! LOL
[/quote]
If you have to ask these questions, STAY AWAY FROM MINING!
September 23, 2014, 06:41:39 PM
quote author=Pt0x link=topic=784897.msg8943615#msg8943615 date=1411499483]
No, they said on twitter and also on their website "THIS WEEK".
can you point me to the official twitter feed of bitmain?
thanks
[/quote]
Nothing on twitter about it anymore than on the forums here.
Thinking about it, does anyone have any idea on the ROI if the S4 comes out at $1500? Rumors have been circulating that
the ROI numbers would have you running well outside 6 months before a profit can be had and that's only if the difficulty rate
stays at an average of 20% a month which, I would now doubt, especially with Bitmain running up another 7PH/s in over 4300
S2 machines that came online. (I can't even imagine seeing 4300 machines in a room just sitting there let alone all hooked up
and hashing away!) China Power must have substations sitting on Bitmains roof!!! LOL
I'm guessing Bitmain literally means before September ends, like literally shipping on the 31st.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
No, they said on twitter and also on their website "THIS WEEK".
can you point me to the official twitter feed of bitmain?
thanks
[/quote]
Nothing on twitter about it anymore than on the forums here.
Thinking about it, does anyone have any idea on the ROI if the S4 comes out at $1500? Rumors have been circulating that
the ROI numbers would have you running well outside 6 months before a profit can be had and that's only if the difficulty rate
stays at an average of 20% a month which, I would now doubt, especially with Bitmain running up another 7PH/s in over 4300
S2 machines that came online. (I can't even imagine seeing 4300 machines in a room just sitting there let alone all hooked up
and hashing away!) China Power must have substations sitting on Bitmains roof!!! LOL
September 23, 2014, 06:35:05 PM
It's the 23rd of Sept, did I miss something about the price and delivery on the S4 that was supposed to be posted last week?
Is anything currently for sale at Bitmain that doesn't include cloud mining?
Thanks!
Is anything currently for sale at Bitmain that doesn't include cloud mining?
Thanks!
September 23, 2014, 03:42:40 PM
September 23, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
yep.. it was when this week was last week .. but now is still this week so I hope it comes out this week and not ... next week when it will be again this week 
Yes, this is week number 2, so that is false advertisement
September 23, 2014, 03:04:50 PM
yep.. it was when this week was last week .. but now is still this week so I hope it comes out this week and not ... next week when it will be again this week
September 23, 2014, 03:03:28 PM
mm nope
It was like that from day 1
It was like that from day 1
Perhaps I am mistaken. BUT look at the Graphic there and on their website. It says "This week". Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
September 23, 2014, 02:48:02 PM
mm nope
It was like that from day 1
It was like that from day 1
September 23, 2014, 02:45:46 PM
I'm guessing Bitmain literally means before September ends, like literally shipping on the 31st.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
My uneducated guess is they're waiting for any BTC price pump up, so they can better profit on the S4 sales, and mitigate shipping costs.
No, they said on twitter and also on their website "THIS WEEK".
can you point me to the official twitter feed of bitmain?
thanks
I think they change the wording on it just now... It did say "This week", now they change it to "before Sept. ends", what's the next date
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