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Topic: ANTMINER S4 2TH/s, Batch 1 on Sale this week, shipping before Sept. Ends - page 19. (Read 33454 times)

sr. member
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They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!

Well according to an idiot on here, they cant sell it at loss, so that means.... they will never launch the S4 .

You know just like how a guy bought btc at high and wont sell low .... Roll Eyes

It doesn't necessarily mean they would sell at a loss. They'd just price it higher than most people can justify. And they'll just mine for themselves if people don't want to buy.

Most (all?) ASIC manufacturers simply don't care if the public wants their product or not. It's a no-lose situation for them and a no-win situation for us.

Are you retarded?

What if the "just price it higher than most people can justify" mean a loss?
The fact that you think its a no lose situation shows you're dumber than you sound.
Say that to thousands of bankruptcy companies, "dont worry yo.... just produce who gives a shit about demand."


not many companies can say "fuck it, we will mine it ourselves" and in that way recoupe whatever they used for building the product. build price, vs sell price is 2 different animals...

Well, if they have the capacity and cheap power then they will mine themselves..


if they can profit from selling miner, then they'll sell too instead of building mining farm
newbie
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They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!

Well according to an idiot on here, they cant sell it at loss, so that means.... they will never launch the S4 .

You know just like how a guy bought btc at high and wont sell low .... Roll Eyes

It doesn't necessarily mean they would sell at a loss. They'd just price it higher than most people can justify. And they'll just mine for themselves if people don't want to buy.

Most (all?) ASIC manufacturers simply don't care if the public wants their product or not. It's a no-lose situation for them and a no-win situation for us.

Are you retarded?

What if the "just price it higher than most people can justify" mean a loss?
The fact that you think its a no lose situation shows you're dumber than you sound.
Say that to thousands of bankruptcy companies, "dont worry yo.... just produce who gives a shit about demand."


not many companies can say "fuck it, we will mine it ourselves" and in that way recoupe whatever they used for building the product. build price, vs sell price is 2 different animals...

Well, if they have the capacity and cheap power then they will mine themselves..
legendary
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They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!

Well according to an idiot on here, they cant sell it at loss, so that means.... they will never launch the S4 .

You know just like how a guy bought btc at high and wont sell low .... Roll Eyes

It doesn't necessarily mean they would sell at a loss. They'd just price it higher than most people can justify. And they'll just mine for themselves if people don't want to buy.

Most (all?) ASIC manufacturers simply don't care if the public wants their product or not. It's a no-lose situation for them and a no-win situation for us.

Are you retarded?

What if the "just price it higher than most people can justify" mean a loss?
The fact that you think its a no lose situation shows you're dumber than you sound.
Say that to thousands of bankruptcy companies, "dont worry yo.... just produce who gives a shit about demand."


not many companies can say "fuck it, we will mine it ourselves" and in that way recoupe whatever they used for building the product. build price, vs sell price is 2 different animals...
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!

Well according to an idiot on here, they cant sell it at loss, so that means.... they will never launch the S4 .

You know just like how a guy bought btc at high and wont sell low .... Roll Eyes

It doesn't necessarily mean they would sell at a loss. They'd just price it higher than most people can justify. And they'll just mine for themselves if people don't want to buy.

Most (all?) ASIC manufacturers simply don't care if the public wants their product or not. It's a no-lose situation for them and a no-win situation for us.

Are you retarded?

What if the "just price it higher than most people can justify" mean a loss?
The fact that you think its a no lose situation shows you're dumber than you sound.
Say that to thousands of bankruptcy companies, "dont worry yo.... just produce who gives a shit about demand."


Wtf?! Don't be such an asshole, asshole!

If you had any reading comprehension skills maybe you would understand what I was saying. Here, let me try again...

Bitmain would NEVER sell S4s at a loss because... wait for it...they don't have too.

If they price the S4 so they make a healthy profit on each unit but it's too expensive for home miners, they won't sell many at retail. But they'll just mine with them or add them to Hashnest.

And remember, their costs to mine with their own equipment is much lower than home miners who pay retail and don't have access to cheap power. They will be able to run them for a very long time before they become unprofitable.
legendary
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"should be early next week" - means only if the BTC price pops up which is highly not going to happen
newbie
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They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.

I don't think it will be today, most likely Monday or Tuesday.

A couple of days ago someone in this thread (not me) posted an email from bitmaintech
the email said that they contacted bitmaintech and bitmaintech said (if I remember correctly)
something along the lines of 'hopefully sales should be early next week'.

After two minutes, that email was then deleted from this thread.
The person that posted it also copy and pasted the 'confidentiality' bit
that had words like prohibited and confidential at the bottom of the email.
member
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I've been eagerly hitting F5 on the Bitmain site and checking back here to see if there's any news on the S4's pricing, but nothing Sad
I suppose technically "End of the week" can be up to midnight in China on Sunday 21st September. Does seem a bit st00pid not to even release the technical specs?

At the time of writing this its 18:00 in Shenzen China, I guess we're hoping to get something even its just the specs today but as most have said I think they're holding out waiting for BTC to rise before ann9uncing the price.

If the price is too high then I'd be considering the S3's depending on how they have priced batch 10.

All in all it's not looking good Sad
legendary
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Merit: 1007
Bitmain would sell S4 (maybe S3s too) as GHs at their hashnest farm.

But their hashnest is too expensive, can't ROI at this rate..

That's because cost is charged in BTC and they use S2's there which are too powerhungry.
sr. member
Activity: 273
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Bitmain would sell S4 (maybe S3s too) as GHs at their hashnest farm.

But their hashnest is too expensive, can't ROI at this rate..
hero member
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Merit: 500
Bitmain would sell S4 (maybe S3s too) as GHs at their hashnest farm.
legendary
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anyon wanna bet we won't have a S4 this week ?
ZiG
sr. member
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How many going to buy them if it is priced at 4 BTC?

Nobody... Wink
sr. member
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How many going to buy them if it is priced at 4 BTC?
hero member
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They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!

Well according to an idiot on here, they cant sell it at loss, so that means.... they will never launch the S4 .

You know just like how a guy bought btc at high and wont sell low .... Roll Eyes

It doesn't necessarily mean they would sell at a loss. They'd just price it higher than most people can justify. And they'll just mine for themselves if people don't want to buy.

Most (all?) ASIC manufacturers simply don't care if the public wants their product or not. It's a no-lose situation for them and a no-win situation for us.

Are you retarded?

What if the "just price it higher than most people can justify" mean a loss?
The fact that you think its a no lose situation shows you're dumber than you sound.
Say that to thousands of bankruptcy companies, "dont worry yo.... just produce who gives a shit about demand."
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!

Well according to an idiot on here, they cant sell it at loss, so that means.... they will never launch the S4 .

You know just like how a guy bought btc at high and wont sell low .... Roll Eyes

It doesn't necessarily mean they would sell at a loss. They'd just price it higher than most people can justify. And they'll just mine for themselves if people don't want to buy.

Most (all?) ASIC manufacturers simply don't care if the public wants their product or not. It's a no-lose situation for them and a no-win situation for us.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!

Well according to an idiot on here, they cant sell it at loss, so that means.... they will never launch the S4 .

You know just like how a guy bought btc at high and wont sell low .... Roll Eyes
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
They have to announce the specs and price sometime this weekend right.  I mean if they plan to ship by the end of the month they need to get on it and start taking orders.  Can't wait to see what they came up with!!!
full member
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whats going on here? dont you find the silence ridiculous?
advertising like a champ when btc price was around 500.
vanish when btc price is 420.

Well, they are pricing them in USD so I don't think btc was affected..


yep  but they may feel the market got shaken and selling this for 1000 usd would further hurt the market.

So they mine with it instead.  Big diff jump has happened lately.  

Maybe this does 900 watts and 2th. Maybe it is a  killer piece of gear.      the s-2 did about 1.1 watts  the s-1 did 2 watts.

the s-3 does .77 watts  maybe this does .45 watts  ……  When price tanked I think they did not want to release a piece of gear that good.

Lol
sr. member
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I wonder who will buy if they give out the price now? No sane person would shell out a minimum of 3 BTC for a miner which will never ever generate this amount in it's reasonable life.
So although I am also eager to see the price and details, right now I prefer BITMAIN to hold of the release for a bit.
This of course only applies if the miner is not super cheap around 2 BTC at which point I am sure many will jump on it.
legendary
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whats going on here? dont you find the silence ridiculous?
advertising like a champ when btc price was around 500.
vanish when btc price is 420.

Well, they are pricing them in USD so I don't think btc was affected..

Compare this to the S2, which was priced in BTC.

Nope, S2 was priced in $$, S1 and S3-in BTC.

Sorry, I meant the S3. Too many S's Wink
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