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Topic: ANTMINER S4 2TH/s, Batch 1 on Sale this week, shipping before Sept. Ends - page 20. (Read 33454 times)

full member
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weekend.
still coming soon.....
i think bitmaintech wait for btc down to $100 and open sale with btc
then btc come back 1000, oh.....
newbie
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Thank God people think like that! Please sell your equipment! If you can only think in BTC terms then you are better shut down your machines!

I made 0.025BTC/day with 500Ghs this month! Thats 0,75BTC/month! If you know how and what to mine then the possibilities are infinite!

I agree it needs to be around .63 a GH/s and at these price levels , difficulty jumps, and electrical cost miners would still need a significant rise in the price of BTC just to break even.
that is great return,p2pool ?
really hope s4 is around lower than 1 USD per GHs

The problem is, 1 USD per GH/s is over priced..
legendary
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whats going on here? dont you find the silence ridiculous?
advertising like a champ when btc price was around 500.
vanish when btc price is 420.

Well, they are pricing them in USD so I don't think btc was affected..

The problem is that since they seem to be pricing this model in USD, the cost of the units in BTC will fluctuate. For potential buyers that use BTC for their ROI guesswork (like me), fluctuations in the fiat value of BTC can affect the value proposition of the product. Plus a low fiat value of BTC means potentiality a longer ROI, or no ROI, in pure BTC terms.

Compare this to the S2 S3, which was priced in BTC. Sure people bitched about the price when it didn't go down between batches (because BTC's fiat value was going down), but at least you could look at a batch knowing the actual price, do your calculations, and decide whether to buy or not without having to worry that the ROI equation in BTC terms would change by the time you pulled the trigger.

My gut feeling is that Bitmain's careful calculations to sell a product that can just barely ROI (with them keeping the rest of the profits) have been thrown off by BTC's price tanking at an inconvenient time. They want to make a profit, clearly. But if this unit costs too much in BTC, it might not be as competitive as other products, and experienced buyers may pass on the purchase (he says, expecting the usual onslaught of "people on this forum will buy anything regardless of logic").
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
whats going on here? dont you find the silence ridiculous?
advertising like a champ when btc price was around 500.
vanish when btc price is 420.

Well, they are pricing them in USD so I don't think btc was affected..


yep  but they may feel the market got shaken and selling this for 1000 usd would further hurt the market.

So they mine with it instead.  Big diff jump has happened lately.  

Maybe this does 900 watts and 2th. Maybe it is a  killer piece of gear.      the s-2 did about 1.1 watts  the s-1 did 2 watts.

the s-3 does .77 watts  maybe this does .45 watts  ……  When price tanked I think they did not want to release a piece of gear that good.
sr. member
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whats going on here? dont you find the silence ridiculous?
advertising like a champ when btc price was around 500.
vanish when btc price is 420.

Well, they are pricing them in USD so I don't think btc was affected..
sr. member
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whats going on here? dont you find the silence ridiculous?
advertising like a champ when btc price was around 500.
vanish when btc price is 420.
hero member
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Watch out for the "Neg-Rep-Dogie-Police".....
Will the firmware in these support p2pool?

Also, Please ensure the firmware contains the latest version of cgminer - no more security vulnerabilities!!!

Rinse/repeat.

Some kind of response would be very much appreciated Bitmain.........
hero member
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Bitmain are probably waiting for the Btc price to rise back to $450 before they announce pricing and specs.

Ironic that by mining with the equipment themselves and selling on the majority of coins mined in there super farms they are devaluing the coins. Would probably make more money by having smaller mining operations themselves and selling the stock to the public, as at least most home miners tend to hold onto a percentage of coins mined, which in turn helps to add upward pressure onto the Bitcoin price.

yeah but greed is tough and getting 3 eggs from the goose each day instead of 2 eggs is very tempting.

They are selling geese and eggs now?

 Huh
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Bitmain are probably waiting for the Btc price to rise back to $450 before they announce pricing and specs.

Ironic that by mining with the equipment themselves and selling on the majority of coins mined in there super farms they are devaluing the coins. Would probably make more money by having smaller mining operations themselves and selling the stock to the public, as at least most home miners tend to hold onto a percentage of coins mined, which in turn helps to add upward pressure onto the Bitcoin price.

yeah but greed is tough and getting 3 eggs from the goose each day instead of 2 eggs is very tempting.
newbie
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Bitmain are probably waiting for the Btc price to rise back to $450 before they announce pricing and specs.

Ironic that by mining with the equipment themselves and selling on the majority of coins mined in there super farms they are devaluing the coins. Would probably make more money by having smaller mining operations themselves and selling the stock to the public, as at least most home miners tend to hold onto a percentage of coins mined, which in turn helps to add upward pressure onto the Bitcoin price.
hero member
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Glow Stick Dance!
Anyone know how many Watts this S4 would be? Bitmain please tell us.

Maybe they are updating the website Smiley
No-one currently knows, awaiting an update on the site so join the F5 refreshing line Cheesy

You can use "Auto Refresh Pus" for chrome Wink

Sounds like an infected wound that won't heal.  Wink
member
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I will save you some wasted times: You're in UK, you're not gonna make any money by mining.


Because I am in the UK? I rent a property from a friend and I am fortunate enough not to have to pay for electricity.

I understand the current difficulty, but I would still like to give it a go.

Yes, even with free electrity....(btw dont call your landlord a friend when you're clearly ripping him off).

I've seen suckers like you come and leave so many times.

4 months from now, you will become a hater and troll this forum.....Use that money and spend or invest into something you really care about.


I only wanted some help with my question about import / duties cost per S4.

Sometimes I wonder if new miners / newbie posters are afraid to post or ask questions
because they may not fit in with people that have more knowledge / posts.

ImogenV, I'm in the UK and have ordered a few S1's and S3's over the last 12 months. The last two batches of S3's (bought in pairs) import and VAT cost £80 for the 1st pair and £110 for the 2nd pair.

At the time the S3's were sold in pairs and cost 1.48 BTC for the 1st order on 2nd July and 1.286 BTC for the 2nd order on 31st July with BTC at around $500 at the time.

I also choose to go with DHL as you can at least rack where/when they will arrive.

Hope that helps you some Smiley

If you get stuck on anything PM and I will help you if I can Cheesy

legendary
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still no S4 for us ? haha
sr. member
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1 psu maximum of 1200watts is only economically viable way to make the miner. Downclock the current chip enough and youll have 2th miner.
newbie
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Thank God people think like that! Please sell your equipment! If you can only think in BTC terms then you are better shut down your machines!

I made 0.025BTC/day with 500Ghs this month! Thats 0,75BTC/month! If you know how and what to mine then the possibilities are infinite!


that is great return,p2pool ?
really hope s4 is around lower than 1 USD per GHs

The problem is, 1 USD per GH/s is over priced..
full member
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Thank God people think like that! Please sell your equipment! If you can only think in BTC terms then you are better shut down your machines!

I made 0.025BTC/day with 500Ghs this month! Thats 0,75BTC/month! If you know how and what to mine then the possibilities are infinite!


that is great return,p2pool ?
really hope s4 is around lower than 1 USD per GHs
hero member
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Anyone know how many Watts this S4 would be? Bitmain please tell us.

Maybe they are updating the website Smiley
No-one currently knows, awaiting an update on the site so join the F5 refreshing line Cheesy

You can use "Auto Refresh Pus" for chrome Wink
Or "Page Monitor"--my preference.
hero member
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I contacted Bitmain to ask the price on the S4, they gave no answer but to "keep checking the website this week".
we could if it worked, seems down for me
Looks like its just you, http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/bitmaintech.com
damn it. at work they don't block stuff, but some stuff mysteriously doesn't work. it doesn't happen often though
sr. member
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Anyone know how many Watts this S4 would be? Bitmain please tell us.

Maybe they are updating the website Smiley
No-one currently knows, awaiting an update on the site so join the F5 refreshing line Cheesy

You can use "Auto Refresh Pus" for chrome Wink
hero member
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Anyone know how many Watts this S4 would be? Bitmain please tell us.

Maybe they are updating the website Smiley
No-one currently knows, awaiting an update on the site so join the F5 refreshing line Cheesy
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