ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 231.

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Quote from: Duce on January 11, 2015, 03:03:44 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 12:07:42 PM

Ok I am lost... anyone have any ideas?

I ordered 30 of these... but they have 4 black wires. The connector has no markings... I have no data sheet. I have no clue which goes to the S5 Red White Black Blue. Huh

http://www.overclock.net/t/922274/delta-fanatics-club/190#post_12978470

Any thoughts?

Strato

I see that the pinout information has been provided already so I can tell you that I used a scribe (pin will work too) to push in the locking tab to remove the pin the lifted it a little to lock in again. The locking tab is accessed in the rectangular opening of the connector. If you are uneasy about the change you can always try it out first to a power supply before connecting it to your miner. You will be very happy with these fans once you install them.

How does it compare to using an S3 fan on the S5? Better or lesser cooling? Louder or quieter operation? Or perhaps, much the same?

I turned on the S5 just to hear the fan and already had these pulled out of storage knowing I would be putting the on the S5 from the reviews I read. Strato bought a bunch of these to replace the stock S5 fans which is where my comment was directed at. I could not say if these would work better or worse than the S3 fans, I did not have the opportunity to try them as I sold my S3s. If you have S3 fans to use I would try them, I think there have been others who may be using them as I see inquires about that fans spec. I can say that my ambient is relatively low, never above 27C, while the blades have never been above 58C and the fans are about 60db max. I think it would be interesting to know how the S3 fans work though. Without taking a db measurement of the S3, my S5 sounds about the same as my S3 in about the same ambient temp.

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Quote from: AbuGarcia on January 11, 2015, 06:58:28 PM

Quote from: dirtbikerr450 on January 11, 2015, 06:30:59 PM

has anyone tried these fans on the s5 im just worried about the noise? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001

you need a 4 pin, you can get delta 120mm fans from ebay for about 60% off that cost. Go to delta's website and pick from the catalog and go on ebay and search the model you want. I have suggested foxconn fans, they can be had for $9 a pop. they do up to 3500 rpm and 150 cfm.

could you link me any good fans

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Quote from: RadekG on January 11, 2015, 06:52:38 PM

Hello, I have a table for 12V operation. Seems that power draw is linear. Higher speed means better W/Gh ratio. All measurements were tested at wall without FAN.

All test done at 12.3-12.4V. Voltage measured at chips are 0.78-0.8V.

Interesting, the review I found suggested its 12V rail was around 11.7V. Cold testing Hot testing.

Just mentioning it because this is the first miner where 12V regulation really will make a difference to efficiency/overclocking/underclocking.

Yes, this miner is very different to other Ants. It is the first one to power chips in series instead parallel. It is like a christmas tree lights. Unfortunatelly most of 12V PSU are not able to be modified to 9V easily, but 10.5V can be done mostly.

As I did some tests, S5 is pushed to maximum as it is uneasy to cool it already, so OC can be done only at some special cases. I think that using previous design with cooling chips by bottom of the package would allow 1TH machine with less chips and eff similar to C1 or S3. Unit could be cheaper.

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Quote from: RadekG on January 11, 2015, 06:52:38 PM

Hello, I have a table for 12V operation. Seems that power draw is linear. Higher speed means better W/Gh ratio. All measurements were tested at wall without FAN.

All test done at 12.3-12.4V. Voltage measured at chips are 0.78-0.8V.

Interesting, the review I found suggested its 12V rail was around 11.7V. Cold testing Hot testing.

Just mentioning it because this is the first miner where 12V regulation really will make a difference to efficiency/overclocking/underclocking.

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Quote from: dirtbikerr450 on January 11, 2015, 06:30:59 PM

has anyone tried these fans on the s5 im just worried about the noise? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001

you need a 4 pin, you can get delta 120mm fans from ebay for about 60% off that cost. Go to delta's website and pick from the catalog and go on ebay and search the model you want. I have suggested foxconn fans, they can be had for $9 a pop. they do up to 3500 rpm and 150 cfm.

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Hello, I have a table for 12V operation. Seems that power draw is linear. Higher speed means better W/Gh ratio. All measurements were tested at wall without FAN.

PSU: Fortron Raider 750W

100MHz/175W = 0.53W/Gh
125MHz/212W = 0.51W/Gh
150MHz/250W = 0.51W/Gh
175MHz/285W = 0.49W/Gh
200MHz/320W = 0.48W/Gh
225MHz/358W = 0.48W/Gh
250MHz/397W = 0.48W/Gh
275MHz/430W = 0.47W/Gh
300MHz/465W = 0.47W/Gh
325MHz/507W = 0.47W/Gh
350MHz/545W = 0.47W/Gh
375MHz/580W = 0.47W/Gh

All test done at 12.3-12.4V. Voltage measured at chips are 0.78-0.8V.

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has anyone tried these fans on the s5 im just worried about the noise? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213001

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The test unit also seems to cut out at 9.45V @ 200MHz even if I start at a higher voltage, and 9.75V @ 250MHz.

If anyone else has had any luck starting these at 10V or under I'd be interested in hearing it.

Interesting. How did you decide to use those frequency numbers? I would imagine that at a lower voltage it may be necessary to reduce the frequency at a lower rate.

I just made a matrix with frequency in 12.5Mhz steps and voltage in 0.5v steps, and measured voltage, current and hash rate.

can you dial down volts as the gear is running?

if you can try start at freq 150 using 10.5 volts and dial down to 9.75 then 9.5 then 9.25 then 9

Mine didn't get down to 9v even at 100

so 9.45 volts was the best?
and it could do freq 200?

I am getting another one in a few days. but my psu is meh for efficiency. 80% at best

I can drop this one to 10 volts put out 300 watts which means I get to test 1 rail at a time.

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Quote from: Biodom on January 11, 2015, 03:28:37 PM

Quote from: IITravel01 on January 11, 2015, 01:44:45 PM

Here's some info. for those trying to dial in the right power to Gh/s ratio for the S5 that I've found through testing. The ratio is pretty linear for every step down in frequency from 350M to 312.5M, it's about 10 watts decrease in power draw and about 20Gh/s reduction.

freq. (avg.) (at 230v at the wall)

350M = 1,150Gh/s = 590watts (default)
343.75M = 1,130Gh/s = 580watts
337.5M = 1,110Gh/s = 570watts
331.25M = 1,090Gh/s = 560watts
325M = 1,070Gh/s = 550watts
318.25M = 1,050Gh/s = 540watts
312.5M = 1,030Gh/s = 530watts

So you can conclude that if you've got a 1,000watt power supply and you want to stay in specs. that you'll choose 293.75M for 2 S5's (281.25M or 287.5M for 110v) or if you want to keep it to a specific wattage use for $ reasons.

Nice table, thanks.
I noticed that a couple of my S5 "do not like" 318.25 when modified with much less loud Noctua 3000 PWM fan.
Temp goes paradoxically higher than at 325, so I stick with 325 for now (can't stand the stock fan).
Will try some other fans for overclocking later in the week.

That could be, I tested 350M, 337.5M, 325M and 312.5M and filled in the in between tables from those.

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Quote from: IITravel01 on January 11, 2015, 01:44:45 PM

Here's some info. for those trying to dial in the right power to Gh/s ratio for the S5 that I've found through testing. The ratio is pretty linear for every step down in frequency from 350M to 312.5M, it's about 10 watts decrease in power draw and about 20Gh/s reduction.

freq. (avg.) (at 230v at the wall)

350M = 1,150Gh/s = 590watts (default)
343.75M = 1,130Gh/s = 580watts
337.5M = 1,110Gh/s = 570watts
331.25M = 1,090Gh/s = 560watts
325M = 1,070Gh/s = 550watts
318.25M = 1,050Gh/s = 540watts
312.5M = 1,030Gh/s = 530watts

So you can conclude that if you've got a 1,000watt power supply and you want to stay in specs. that you'll choose 293.75M for 2 S5's (281.25M or 287.5M for 110v) or if you want to keep it to a specific wattage use for $ reasons.

Nice table, thanks.
I noticed that a couple of my S5 "do not like" 318.25 when modified with much less loud Noctua 3000 PWM fan.
Temp goes paradoxically higher than at 325, so I stick with 325 for now (can't stand the stock fan).
Will try some other fans for overclocking later in the week.

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Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 11:08:50 AM

Is it ok/safe to run a single unit using 3 cables that have double 6 pins? 8 pin to dual 6 pin.

I was hoping I could run 1 dedicated cable to each blade, then use the 3rd cable and split it between both blades.

The Corsair CM850 only comes with 3 cables.

Thoughts?

Strato

It is better to buy one Corsair Extra PCE-i cable separately . My Corsair RM850 works with 4 PCI-E and RM850 comes similarly with only 3 PCI-E cables.

I found a link to ebay here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/extra-pce-i-cables-917835

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Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 12:07:42 PM

Ok I am lost... anyone have any ideas?

I ordered 30 of these... but they have 4 black wires. The connector has no markings... I have no data sheet. I have no clue which goes to the S5 Red White Black Blue. Huh

http://www.overclock.net/t/922274/delta-fanatics-club/190#post_12978470

Any thoughts?

Strato

I see that the pinout information has been provided already so I can tell you that I used a scribe (pin will work too) to push in the locking tab to remove the pin the lifted it a little to lock in again. The locking tab is accessed in the rectangular opening of the connector. If you are uneasy about the change you can always try it out first to a power supply before connecting it to your miner. You will be very happy with these fans once you install them.

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Quote from: AlexAtom on January 11, 2015, 02:07:15 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 11:19:52 AM

Hey everyone,

So Bitmain was very cool about issuing me coupons for the 24 AntMiners that I purchased off of Amazon before the price drop. I haven't decided if I'm going to use them all, or perhaps just a few… Still need to get a number of our first delivery up and running.

So that said, I may be interested in either trading or selling a bunch of the coupons -the coupons are good through February 4, and our valued at $45.00. Just a heads up, you can only use one coupon per S5.

Shoot me a private message if there is any interest in working out a deal on some of these.

Cheers! Grin

Strato

I also bought 2 on Amazon but did not get coupons for those. What is the procedure for obtaining them? I could really use them as I'm about to order 4 more direct from Bitmain.

Ditto

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Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 11:19:52 AM

Hey everyone,

So Bitmain was very cool about issuing me coupons for the 24 AntMiners that I purchased off of Amazon before the price drop. I haven't decided if I'm going to use them all, or perhaps just a few… Still need to get a number of our first delivery up and running.

So that said, I may be interested in either trading or selling a bunch of the coupons -the coupons are good through February 4, and our valued at $45.00. Just a heads up, you can only use one coupon per S5.

Shoot me a private message if there is any interest in working out a deal on some of these.

Cheers! Grin

Strato

I also bought 2 on Amazon but did not get coupons for those. What is the procedure for obtaining them? I could really use them as I'm about to order 4 more direct from Bitmain.

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Quote from: ryanjf on January 11, 2015, 01:15:57 PM

Quote from: dogie on January 11, 2015, 01:00:06 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 12:07:42 PM

I ordered 30 of these... but they have 4 black wires. The connector has no markings... I have no data sheet. I have no clue which goes to the S5 Red White Black Blue. Huh

Data sheet for the fan can be found here. Look on page 5 for wiring info:

Pin 1: Positive [12V]
Pin 2: PWM control IN
Pin 3: RPM reporting OUT
Pin 4: Negative

That's going to need rewiring to fit on S5s as normal 4 pin fan headers are:

Pin 1: Negative
Pin 2: Positive [12V]
Pin 3: RPM reporting OUT
Pin 4: PWM control IN

Might be worth sending back.

Dogie, I think you have pin 2 & 3 reversed there on the top.

No, according to the linked forum post the data sheet is just explaining those two pins badly and so they're 'reversed' from the labels.

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Here's some info. for those trying to dial in the right power to Gh/s ratio for the S5 that I've found through testing. The ratio is pretty linear for every step down in frequency from 350M to 312.5M, it's about 10 watts decrease in power draw and about 20Gh/s reduction.

freq. (avg.) (at 230v at the wall)

350M = 1,150Gh/s = 590watts (tested)(default)
343.75M = 1,130Gh/s = 580watts (assumed)
337.5M = 1,110Gh/s = 570watts (tested)
331.25M = 1,090Gh/s = 560watts (assumed)
325M = 1,070Gh/s = 550watts (tested)
318.25M = 1,050Gh/s = 540watts (assumed)
312.5M = 1,030Gh/s = 530watts (tested)

So you can conclude that if you've got a 1,000watt power supply and you want to stay in specs. that you'll choose 293.75M for 2 S5's (281.25M or 287.5M for 110v) or if you want to keep it to a specific wattage use for $ reasons.

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Quote from: dogie on January 11, 2015, 01:00:06 PM

Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 12:07:42 PM

I ordered 30 of these... but they have 4 black wires. The connector has no markings... I have no data sheet. I have no clue which goes to the S5 Red White Black Blue. Huh

Data sheet for the fan can be found here. Look on page 5 for wiring info:

Pin 1: Positive [12V]
Pin 2: PWM control IN
Pin 3: RPM reporting OUT
Pin 4: Negative

That's going to need rewiring to fit on S5s as normal 4 pin fan headers are:

Pin 1: Negative
Pin 2: Positive [12V]
Pin 3: RPM reporting OUT
Pin 4: PWM control IN

Might be worth sending back.

Dogie, I think you have pin 2 & 3 reversed there on the top.

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Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 12:07:42 PM

I ordered 30 of these... but they have 4 black wires. The connector has no markings... I have no data sheet. I have no clue which goes to the S5 Red White Black Blue. Huh

Data sheet for the fan can be found here. Look on page 5 for wiring info:

Pin 1: Positive [12V]
Pin 2: PWM control IN
Pin 3: RPM reporting OUT
Pin 4: Negative

That's going to need rewiring to fit on S5s as normal 4 pin fan headers are:

Pin 1: Negative
Pin 2: Positive [12V]
Pin 3: RPM reporting OUT
Pin 4: PWM control IN

Might be worth sending back.

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Quote from: aurel57 on January 11, 2015, 11:16:42 AM

Quote from: Stratobitz on January 11, 2015, 11:08:50 AM

Is it ok/safe to run a single unit using 3 cables that have double 6 pins? 8 pin to dual 6 pin.

I was hoping I could run 1 dedicated cable to each blade, then use the 3rd cable and split it between both blades.

The Corsair CM850 only comes with 3 cables.

Thoughts?

Strato

Should work fine as your still using a single rail PSU.

Correct, will work fine. All Corsair PSUs are single rail apart from the AXi's which are toggle-able single-multi.

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