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Topic: ANTMINER S5+ is available to order, 7.722TH/S 0.445J/GH - page 12. (Read 40128 times)

legendary
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the paypal option is nice Gareth.. but soon you will have other resellers stocking up on these offering them for under 3k.  I know Scott at HolyBitcoin is getting a shipment in and accepts paypal as well, i think he is planning on offering them at 2999.97

They are on ebay at $2900 + $60 shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S5-7-7TH-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-Brand-New-Factory-Sealed-Box-/262009233717?hash=item3d00f7a135


yeah not bad, some guy had one for 2500 earlier and it was snatched up quick lol, makes me wonder why he had it so low with ebay / paypal fees.. probably just trying to get his money back after realizing he didnt have 220v
legendary
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How are you doing this though?  Are you having customers send to you or sending to bitmain as if it was you?

Bitmain terms are here: https://bitmain.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202661989-Limited-90-Day-Warranty-Terms-

They clearly post: "it does not extend to owners of the product other than the original owner" and as first buyer and not official reseller you are original owner.  They even warn of resellers may claim to have warranty that do not on sales "Some resellers may claim the units be qualified, however, it may not be."

Can you please show us documentation where Bitmain say's your not an official reseller yet you may transfer warrenty?

Hi, thanks for your question.

Currently, it seems Bitmain do not allow warranty claims through resellers but we are attempting to communicate and work with them on this issue.

In the mean time, I can confirm that we are offering an ITOP 90-day warranty - the same as the manufacturer - on all purchases of the S5+ made through our official site. If you need to return a faulty unit, you can send it back to us within the warranty period and we will continue to offer this unless we can do it through Bitmain in the future - this is our guarantee.

As a result, our costs are a little higher due to extra expenses in dealing with warranty claims but we offer more payment options and better customer service and support on our full range of products.

Can you list the TOS to your warranty?   Bitmain has a page with TOS for warranty.

Thak you for saying offering "we are offering an ITOP 90-day warranty".  I still think you should say like manufacture not same as.  With being a unofficial reseller it truly is not same as.   So you are getting better but still not there on describing it.
hero member
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the paypal option is nice Gareth.. but soon you will have other resellers stocking up on these offering them for under 3k.  I know Scott at HolyBitcoin is getting a shipment in and accepts paypal as well, i think he is planning on offering them at 2999.97

They are on ebay at $2900 + $60 shipping

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitmain-Antminer-S5-7-7TH-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-Brand-New-Factory-Sealed-Box-/262009233717?hash=item3d00f7a135
legendary
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How are you doing this though?  Are you having customers send to you or sending to bitmain as if it was you?

Bitmain terms are here: https://bitmain.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202661989-Limited-90-Day-Warranty-Terms-

They clearly post: "it does not extend to owners of the product other than the original owner" and as first buyer and not official reseller you are original owner.  They even warn of resellers may claim to have warranty that do not on sales "Some resellers may claim the units be qualified, however, it may not be."

Can you please show us documentation where Bitmain say's your not an official reseller yet you may transfer warrenty?

Hi, thanks for your question.

Currently, it seems Bitmain do not allow warranty claims through resellers but we are attempting to communicate and work with them on this issue.

In the mean time, I can confirm that we are offering an ITOP 90-day warranty - the same as the manufacturer - on all purchases of the S5+ made through our official site. If you need to return a faulty unit, you can send it back to us within the warranty period and we will continue to offer this unless we can do it through Bitmain in the future - this is our guarantee.

As a result, our costs are a little higher due to extra expenses in dealing with warranty claims but we offer more payment options and better customer service and support on our full range of products.

the paypal option is nice Gareth.. but soon you will have other resellers stocking up on these offering them for under 3k.  I know Scott at HolyBitcoin is getting a shipment in and accepts paypal as well, i think he is planning on offering them at 2999.97
newbie
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How are you doing this though?  Are you having customers send to you or sending to bitmain as if it was you?

Bitmain terms are here: https://bitmain.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202661989-Limited-90-Day-Warranty-Terms-

They clearly post: "it does not extend to owners of the product other than the original owner" and as first buyer and not official reseller you are original owner.  They even warn of resellers may claim to have warranty that do not on sales "Some resellers may claim the units be qualified, however, it may not be."

Can you please show us documentation where Bitmain say's your not an official reseller yet you may transfer warrenty?

Hi, thanks for your question.

Currently, it seems Bitmain do not allow warranty claims through resellers but we are attempting to communicate and work with them on this issue.

In the mean time, I can confirm that we are offering an ITOP 90-day warranty - the same as the manufacturer - on all purchases of the S5+ made through our official site. If you need to return a faulty unit, you can send it back to us within the warranty period and we will continue to offer this unless we can do it through Bitmain in the future - this is our guarantee.

As a result, our costs are a little higher due to extra expenses in dealing with warranty claims but we offer more payment options and better customer service and support on our full range of products.
legendary
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I'm fairly confident they will sell more batches of the s5+, it just makes sense from a business perspective.. Why release new gen when the competition is non existent.. S5+ was tempting but I opted to get some sp20's instead for the stealth factor

Depends, the S2 and S3++ were used to help consume the last of a generation's chip supplies and the S5+ may be the same. There's probably a finite number of S5+s planned and even if they're selling better than expected there may not be significant follow up stock. The S7 has to appear at some point.
member
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I'm fairly confident they will sell more batches of the s5+, it just makes sense from a business perspective.. Why release new gen when the competition is non existent.. S5+ was tempting but I opted to get some sp20's instead for the stealth factor

Of course they would definitely list their 2nd Batch of s5+ might be today or tomorrow,as it's just the beginging  yet.
legendary
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I'm fairly confident they will sell more batches of the s5+, it just makes sense from a business perspective.. Why release new gen when the competition is non existent.. S5+ was tempting but I opted to get some sp20's instead for the stealth factor
legendary
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the sh s5 7th batch is sold out also....hmm... the s7 time is near  Grin

No I think not ,  we will get at least 1 month of s-5+  more likely 2 months of s-5+.


BTW I would hope to be wrong about my guess.


oh...i do hope you're wrong and they will pull it out....s5+/s4 are at another scale of mining as s5/s7...let's hope they are considering separate types of buyers for these large scale/little scale mining rigs....feeling stupidly confident  Grin

It really is not that hard to get 240.   So I do not think they will consider it a different miner status.  I would not expect to see a jump to next gen right after selling batch 1.

I think there are a few batches to come.   It is a pretty good machine as far as specs.    I feel this miner is still one that a hobby miner could run, not all but most.  Not to mention they have mastered making this chip being used.  So they chances are can make it pretty cheap.    And selling these helps make next gen without needing a loan/investor.
legendary
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the sh s5 7th batch is sold out also....hmm... the s7 time is near  Grin

No I think not ,  we will get at least 1 month of s-5+  more likely 2 months of s-5+.


BTW I would hope to be wrong about my guess.

The S5+ sold out fairly quickly. Id have to agree with Philipma1957 that if Bitmain has a new unit already deployed, or about to be... Their business model has always been to use the units first then begin liquidating when their next generation is ready to go in to the legacy unit's place.

Id be surprised if we see any significant upgrades anytime soon. Mining difficult has nearly stalled and will remain relatively flat until the new ASIC wafers are production ready.  Difficulty may rise come winter... But for now even mining with S3+ units is in fact profitable, which are far less efficient than the S5/S5+.

Strato 
hero member
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the sh s5 7th batch is sold out also....hmm... the s7 time is near  Grin

No I think not ,  we will get at least 1 month of s-5+  more likely 2 months of s-5+.


BTW I would hope to be wrong about my guess.


oh...i do hope you're wrong and they will pull it out....s5+/s4 are at another scale of mining as s5/s7...let's hope they are considering separate types of buyers for these large scale/little scale mining rigs....feeling stupidly confident  Grin
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
the sh s5 7th batch is sold out also....hmm... the s7 time is near  Grin

No I think not ,  we will get at least 1 month of s-5+  more likely 2 months of s-5+.


BTW I would hope to be wrong about my guess.
hero member
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the sh s5 7th batch is sold out also....hmm... the s7 time is near  Grin
legendary
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seems this batch is sold out?

Yes.

AntMiner S5+ Batch 1

Sold Out


And my fridays order status is
Unpaid
Unshipped
Expired

So I wonder, my order is filled or not.
legendary
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seems this batch is sold out?
legendary
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I'm curious to see a pic of these with two of the 2880 PSU.. See how clean it looks like this for a data center environment
newbie
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I see you have been posting a lot.  Are you a official reseller?  (IE bitmain warrenty is still valid if bought from you, as it does not transfer people which kills most resellers).

Just was not sure if you are official reseller or unofficial.  Thanks.

There are no official resellers any more and there is no qualification by Bitmain. The only recommendation is to buy from the official webstore (which is still going to be the cheapest anyway), anything else you do so at your own risk, and with them for order and warranty support.

Question on this Dogie,

I got my first S5 unit from Amazon they literally stated the seller was Bitmain and it came from a Colorado distribution center.  It also stated it had a 90 day warranty.  While not the 'official' website I trust that counts as buying directly from Bitmain and that my warranty (which was included in standard boxing as displayed from China) is completely valid.  I cannot see a company the size of Amazon being duped in such a fashion and if they were they would take immediate hostile action toward that seller/re-seller.

I also ask this because I'm still within my 30 day 'return' window even though the machine runs fine outside the a few problem I've managed to get around.
full member
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Actually i already bought another 2 PSUs for 442$ with shipping..
legendary
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I am not defending dogie , but   he said it is cheaper to buy from bitmaintech then itop.

Now itop may not like that but that was true.

http://www.itopshop.net/world-biggest-miner-antminer-s5-bitcoin-miner-77-t-3436w-p-271.html

3299  plus shipping


https://www.bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=0002015081407532655504JMKzsM067B

2307 plus shipping


so we are talking about a big mark up here.

My question to iTop is will you reduce price or keep the markup?




The biggest thing in my mind is if you buy direct from bitmain you have 90 day warranty.  Warranty do not transfer so if you buy from ITOP you have no bitmain warranty, unless they are lying to bitmain and send it in as if they still owned it and did not sell it.

We provide the full warranty same as the manufacturer does for whatever products we resell , we charge a littlie bit more to cover the extra expense it may causes ,more payment options and better customer service .

How are you doing this though?  Are you having customers send to you or sending to bitmain as if it was you?

Bitmain terms are here: https://bitmain.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202661989-Limited-90-Day-Warranty-Terms-

They clearly post: "it does not extend to owners of the product other than the original owner" and as first buyer and not official reseller you are original owner.  They even warn of resellers may claim to have warranty that do not on sales "Some resellers may claim the units be qualified, however, it may not be."

Can you please show us documentation where Bitmain say's your not an official reseller yet you may transfer warrenty?
sr. member
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Merit: 253
What is the cfm of one of the S5+?

Does anyone want to share your daily average TH per S5+ unit?  (out of the box)

THANKS!!
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