ANTMINER S7 is available at bitmaintech.com with 4.86TH/s, 0.25J/GH - page 356.

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Quote from: Biodom on September 23, 2015, 10:33:10 AM

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Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM

Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

probably, but it is one thing not to ROI to the tune of couple hundred and another to have the same with 25-30K.
I expect bitmain to go and price S7 super aggressively, if SPT will price theirs at or slighly above 25K.

I doubt it'll change the S7's price. Maybe if they were available to the public, but they're not. Even if they were, they are nowhere close to being in the same league. Spondoolies is Intel, Bitmain is Cyrix...

tech is good, but the direction is all wrong as far as bitcoin enthusiasts are concerned (bigger machines).
a manufacturer with 16nm tech at 0.1 J/GH and 10-12.5Th miner at a reasonable price will sell much more, of this I am certain.

Spondoolies isn't concerned about selling more. They're a self mining company now. They're likely going to sell just enough to large mines to recoup their development and manufacturing costs on the SP50 upfront to reduce their risk, and then close the doors to their customers to keep them from competing with Spondoolies/BTCS.

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Quote from: Biodom on September 23, 2015, 10:23:09 AM

Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM

Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

probably, but it is one thing not to ROI to the tune of a couple of hundred and another to have the same with 25-30K investment.
I expect bitmain to go and price S7 super aggressively if SPT will price theirs at or slightly above 25K.

Not a chance SP50 will be under 40k. 55k bulk pricing is optimistic.

numbers that you mention would make it irrelevant, despite an impressive efficiency.
you are saying it will be $0.5/GH? that would be worse than S5 and even Sp20.
check the profitability calculator.

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Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:25:48 AM

Quote from: Biodom on September 23, 2015, 10:23:09 AM

Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM

Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

probably, but it is one thing not to ROI to the tune of couple hundred and another to have the same with 25-30K.
I expect bitmain to go and price S7 super aggressively, if SPT will price theirs at or slighly above 25K.

I doubt it'll change the S7's price. Maybe if they were available to the public, but they're not. Even if they were, they are nowhere close to being in the same league. Spondoolies is Intel, Bitmain is Cyrix...

tech is good, but the direction is all wrong as far as bitcoin enthusiasts are concerned (bigger machines).
a manufacturer with 16nm tech at 0.1 J/GH and 10-12.5Th miner at a reasonable price will sell much more, of this I am certain.

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Quote from: -droid- on September 23, 2015, 10:25:04 AM

Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM

Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

i dunno, you gotta think people would be upgrading their large scale farms to sp50's which would take down existing gear.. diff will go up but it wont be massive.

unless of course said farms keep existing gear and just add on the sp50's.. or a plethora of new farm's come online

Hard to say. If someone or some group invested a lot of money to build 1+ MW infrastructures, they might want to take advantage of them by makxing them out with SP50s instead of just settling for the same speed at much lower electric costs. A lot of power companies will penalize such scenarios also by increasing the cost of power. They need to recoup their investment outside of your building.

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Quote from: Biodom on September 23, 2015, 10:23:09 AM

Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM

Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

probably, but it is one thing not to ROI to the tune of couple hundred and another to have the same with 25-30K.
I expect bitmain to go and price S7 super aggressively, if SPT will price theirs at or slighly above 25K.

I doubt it'll change the S7's price. Maybe if they were available to the public, but they're not. Even if they were, they are nowhere close to being in the same league. Spondoolies is Intel, Bitmain is Cyrix...

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Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM

Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

i dunno, you gotta think people would be upgrading their large scale farms to sp50's which would take down existing gear.. diff will go up but it wont be massive.

unless of course said farms keep existing gear and just add on the sp50's.. or a plethora of new farm's come online

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Quote from: Prelude on September 23, 2015, 10:18:10 AM

Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

probably, but it is one thing not to ROI to the tune of a couple of hundred and another to have the same with 25-30K investment.
I expect bitmain to go and price S7 super aggressively if SPT will price theirs at or slightly above 25K.

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Pretty sure those of use who ordered S7s will never ROI. SP50s will destroy any chance we had with the massive difficulty increases they will cause.

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Quote from: alienesb on September 23, 2015, 08:32:40 AM

Quote from: HerbPean on September 23, 2015, 08:26:21 AM

Good news, my units just got clear from the custom !

Bad news spondoolies just release an SP50.

It's huge beast. 0,14w/gh

It's only viable for large scale mining, too big.

That, and it is only available for bulk customers. So I don't think you can just get an individual unit unless you can put together a massive group buy Shocked

Each unit is a group buy!

it would be doable if you can split hash from each board individually, which is a possibility, of course.

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Quote from: wlefever on September 23, 2015, 09:23:18 AM

Quote from: alienesb on September 23, 2015, 08:32:40 AM

Quote from: HerbPean on September 23, 2015, 08:26:21 AM

Good news, my units just got clear from the custom !

Bad news spondoolies just release an SP50.

It's huge beast. 0,14w/gh

It's only viable for large scale mining, too big.

That, and it is only available for bulk customers. So I don't think you can just get an individual unit unless you can put together a massive group buy Shocked

Each unit is a group buy!

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Quote from: wlefever on September 23, 2015, 09:23:18 AM

Quote from: alienesb on September 23, 2015, 08:32:40 AM

Quote from: HerbPean on September 23, 2015, 08:26:21 AM

Good news, my units just got clear from the custom !

Bad news spondoolies just release an SP50.

It's huge beast. 0,14w/gh

It's only viable for large scale mining, too big.

That, and it is only available for bulk customers. So I don't think you can just get an individual unit unless you can put together a massive group buy Shocked

bitmains response would be to drop S7 at least to $1500 or 6.5 BTC, where it should have been in the first place.

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Carl, aka Sonny :)

Quote from: alienesb on September 23, 2015, 06:20:43 AM

Mine was finally processed in California and is now heading to Toomim Bros in Washington.

I'm sending mine to Toomim Bros also so post your experiences when things get set up for you. I placed my order on 9/6 so nothing for me yet.

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Quote from: alienesb on September 23, 2015, 08:32:40 AM

Quote from: HerbPean on September 23, 2015, 08:26:21 AM

Good news, my units just got clear from the custom !

Bad news spondoolies just release an SP50.

It's huge beast. 0,14w/gh

It's only viable for large scale mining, too big.

That, and it is only available for bulk customers. So I don't think you can just get an individual unit unless you can put together a massive group buy Shocked

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Quote from: edonkey on September 23, 2015, 08:43:01 AM

I ordered a unit the first day with shipping to California via FedEx. It's already in Oakland (an hour away) and will be delivered by 10:30 AM PDT.

That's less than 4 hours from now!

It's also my wife's birthday, but she won't see this as a present Wink

yeah, especially since you would have to blanket it with pillows or foam Grin

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I ordered a unit the first day with shipping to California via FedEx. It's already in Oakland (an hour away) and will be delivered by 10:30 AM PDT.

That's less than 4 hours from now!

It's also my wife's birthday, but she won't see this as a present Wink

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Quote from: alienesb on September 23, 2015, 08:32:40 AM

Quote from: HerbPean on September 23, 2015, 08:26:21 AM

Good news, my units just got clear from the custom !

Bad news spondoolies just release an SP50.

It's huge beast. 0,14w/gh

It's only viable for large scale mining, too big.

Regardless of scale, difficulty affects all miners

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Quote from: HerbPean on September 23, 2015, 08:26:21 AM

Good news, my units just got clear from the custom !

Bad news spondoolies just release an SP50.

It's huge beast. 0,14w/gh

It's only viable for large scale mining, too big.

HerbPean

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Good news, my units just got clear from the custom !

Bad news spondoolies just release an SP50.

It's huge beast. 0,14w/gh

alienesb

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Mine was finally processed in California and is now heading to Toomim Bros in Washington.

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Quote from: AriesIV10 on September 22, 2015, 09:20:07 AM

Just got an update on my shipping that was to be dilivered on Wednesday. Here is the update:

09/22/2015 8:22 A.M. A valid ID # (tax, personal, deferment) required for clearance is missing. We're working to obtain this information.
09/22/2015 8:21 A.M. The package is awaiting clearing agency review. / The package is at the clearing agency awaiting final release.

I hope this is not going to be a delay.

Give them a call and make sure to provide them any information they are missing ASAP.
Happened to me twice with KNC Jupiters and Spondoolies systems.
Caused a few days in delay and ended up costing me a few bitcoins in profit Sad

Thank you so much!!! They are in KY and said that all they needed was my tax id or ssn. I gave it to them and they said that they would release it. Whew! Thanks Again!!

I am just curious why UPS would need your SSN or tax id #. In the past they never asked for that information for my S3 to C1 shipments. My S7s are coming on the 24th, so far no hold up.

Same here, all my miners from Bitmain came UPS thru the KY hub and never had a person ask anything like that either?

I have never been asked SSN or tax id either for any miner. On the bitmain psu they shipped it at a lower weight then it was, I had to write UPS a check for that. But I cant see what SSN would have to do with miner shipment.

I just received a shipment update for my orders......TODAY!!!! I will be hooking some up to 220 with the PSU that Bitmain sells and some S7s with 750W Platinum PSUs to see which is more efficient. EXCITING!!!

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