Topic: Anyone following the ebola outbreak? - page 4. (Read 39823 times)

Well it looks like that the MSM is not going to report on potential Ebola cases until it is actually confirmed that there is an Ebola case. There had been a number of cases when someone would get sick and then claim to have just gotten back from Africa only to have their claim debunked by the lack of travel records and confirmation by their employer that they have been at work, in the US, during the time they claimed to have been traveling.

CDC changed its public information, which in some ways looks better and in some, not so much.
There are a lot of unknowns, and it is difficult to claim that something does not happen, just that they don't have evidence of it happening in the lab.

There are some hemorrhagic fevers that some rats can carry (hanta virus for example).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2640244/pdf/9866729.pdf

So when CDC says:

I have to wonder about the addition of "Ebola is not spread through the air, by water, by food" which is new and isn't in earlier.

I am guessing they are dealing with the 1% of people that are plain flat out crazy and there are a lot more of those then there are ebola patients.  So they put out false information.  I just don't like it.

(Ebola can be transmitted through all those, its just freaky unlikely, its more likely someone having a nervous breakdown is delusional than that they have ebola because they drank some strange tasting water)

Several other sources are citing they same:

http://downtrend.com/donn-marten/obama-regime-puts-lipstick-on-a-pig-election-day-scrubbed-of-ebola/ (posted by NewLiberty one post above mine)

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_36502.php

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/11/breaking-obama-administration-pushes-news-outlets-to-not-report-suspected-ebola-cases/

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fox-news-ends-ebola-coverage-work-done?utm_source=tny&utm_campaign=generalsocial&utm_medium=twitter&mbid=social_twitter

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/mainstream-media-agrees-with-obama-admin-not-to-report-any-more-suspected-ebola-cases


But true, it could be conspiracy theorist trying to cause panic.  Just pointing out what some other sites are saying.

Exactly.

Did you ever hear a "news outlet" report on what really happened in Dallas?

If the event is real, then there is no need to fake anything.

No ambulance lights, media was prepared.



SOURCE:
http://nodisinfo.com/ebola/

You can't believe everything you read online. Especially as of recently, there are a high number of "news outlets" that are.....less then credible....infowars being one of them

Just read the same thing about Obama pressuring the news media not to report on Ebola.  Although this could help stop a unwarranted panic, it will also cloud the public from the true facts of the possibility of a severe outbreak.

Another Source
http://www.infowars.com/media-agrees-not-to-report-on-suspected-ebola-cases-in-u-s/

With whom are they agreeing?


This was expected.
As a political calculation, this is a no-brainer.
Authoritarianism wins if ebola becomes pervasive.
If the New York waste disposal washes ebola vomit into the sewer and the rats start spreading it, or it lives on the sewer pond scum and everyone runs to their government for help, and hands the government the authority over their health care....
The politics of it make sense.

Frankly... I do agree with this non-reporting on individual tests generally.  I'm of the opinion that personal health issues are personal.  

However if someone voluntarily goes to the press and lets them know that they are being tested for ebola there ought be no constraint on the press for sharing that information other than their normal fact checking.  Anything else is a prior restraint on the press = censorship.

Report: Obama Administration Pressured News Outlets to Not Report Suspected Ebola Cases


In case you haven’t noticed… Media outlets are no longer reporting on suspected Ebola cases at the urging of the Obama administration.
Downtrend reported:

There is a reason why Obama didn’t pick an Ebola Czar with any actual medical experience when he tabbed longtime Democrat party hack Ron Klain who is a lobbyist. The real danger was never that the foolish policies of Barry and the boys were exposing Americans to Ebola but rather the political implications of it all. So the sudden departure of Ebola stories from the state-corporate media doesn’t pass the smell test. Interestingly the website of Forbes has a story that reports:

The Associated Press and other press outlets have agreed not to report on suspected cases of Ebola in the United States until a positive viral RNA test is completed.

That damning line is buried deep in the article so anyone can be excused for not noticing it – they aren’t supposed to.


http://downtrend.com/donn-marten/obama-regime-puts-lipstick-on-a-pig-election-day-scrubbed-of-ebola/

It is in the interests of those that want more government control over health for there to be a crisis.  
Early intervention and prevention (especially if successful) will look like an over-reaction.
Whereas an evident crisis will help cement those in power.
The CDC is headed up by a political appointee.  They have downgraded the protective measures they are recommending, and approving non-factual information for the administration to convey, giving them cover politically.  ("Well, we are just following the CDC recommendation").
It is enough to make someone cynical.

Must read.

TonyT

http://thefederalist.com/2014/10/31/medical-science-doesnt-support-official-rhetoric-on-ebola/

This year a team of researchers has already found more than 300 genetic mutations in the Ebola genome that now “make the 2014 Ebola virus genomes distinct from the viral genomes tied to previous Ebola outbreaks,” a portion of the findings reported in Science. This means that the strain of the virus that now threatens Americans (or could threaten the country a year from now) just might be transmitted with more casual contact than in the past.

This is why, if ebola is not taken care of by flu season, that it will become a much worse problem in the US.

It is not realistic to be able to quarantine everyone with the flu, as our healthcare system would not be able to handle monitoring this many people for 21 days after they no longer have the flu. This will result in many people who have ebola being mistaken for having the flu, and being allowed to be in public and to spread the disease

The edge case, trumped by the corner case.

"The good news is you have survived ebola hemorrhagic fever.  Now have a seat sir, there is some bad news."

That's a good point.  Can you imagine the microdroplets being sprayed from an Ebola-sufferer who has the flu?  Worse, since Ebola has "flu like symptoms", they will be masked by somebody who has the actual flu, and this person will be spraying everybody in the office with their body fluids, and nobody will give much concern, thinking it's the 'ordinary flu'.

Now imagine a person who has the flu, Ebola, and HIV, coughing, sneezing, and engaging in risky behavior.  A trifecta!!!  Quarantine anybody?

http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebola-is-airborne-university-of-minnesota-cidrap-researchers-claim/

It looks like Spendulus was on target, though humans are going to generate less mist than an ocean, it is a vector.

Even if ebola does not cause sneezing.  People with ebola can also get a cold or flu.

personally I have one priority (most are gonna bash and trash me, but who cares)... it's the safe return of the 4000. sorry, my priorities are straight.

I think she wasn't meaning Swarey had to come from far away to say goodbye to them. I may think she means he didn't come to say goodbye even from a few yards (no hugs & kisses goodbye).  


 

http://rt.com/news/199524-ebolacom-domain-sold-marijuana/

Good one, thanks!  This is big news.  And sad too.  Notice the Italians, as is common there, like to hug and kiss, and this will spread the virus more easily.  Notice also how social they are:  they expect you to come from far away to see you off at the airport, and think you are lazy if you don't.  Imagine that with Americans, lol, who often barely even get off their TV couch to say goodbye as you walk out their front door!  (relax, I am an American) javascript:void(0); <--that's supposed to be a cheesy laugh

Looks like more quarantine measures are being put in place

Ebola outbreak: U.S. travel quarantines could deter health workers
Florida becomes 4th U.S. state to implement additional Ebola measures

Under the revised New York guidelines, medical professors who have had contact with Ebola patients will be quarantined at home and receive twice-daily monitoring if they have no symptoms. The state will also pay for any lost compensation, if they are not paid by a volunteer organization.

Cuomo had criticized Dr. Craig Spencer, who tested positive for Ebola on Thursday, for not obeying a 21-day voluntary quarantine. But on Sunday, he called the health care workers "heroes" and said his administration would encourage more medical workers to volunteer to fight Ebola.

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The Obama administration considers the policy in New York and New Jersey "not grounded in science" and conveyed its concerns to Christie and Cuomo, a senior administration official told The Associated Press. The official wasn't authorized to comment by name and insisted on anonymity.

"The best way to protect us is to stop the epidemic in Africa, and we need those health care workers, so we do not want to put them in a position where it makes it very, very uncomfortable for them to even volunteer to go," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ebola-outbreak-u-s-travel-quarantines-could-deter-health-workers-1.2813455

Well still interesting stuff to say the least good old quarantining.

From the major news outlet here in Italy an article - in Italian language - about two MDs quarantined near Milan, Italy.


English translation: "The Cuamm midwife and surgeon  have not worked in the Ebola isolation tent set up at the government hospital. Why are you being evacuated? "For a number of broken protocols in the management of patients with suspected Ebola - says Setti Carraro -. Errors of NHS staff have exposed us to a high and uncontrolled risk of infection."


English translation: The last case: the driver of a ''Ebola ambulance" who showed symptoms but was brought out of the isolation tent before the examinations (they takes at least 24 hours). He was a friend, thought it was healthy. Hugs and kisses. Among the staff who is reporting himself has been quarantined, like the head of the tent, a guy named Swarey who said: "Many have been here at the hospital with the driver but are silent." Even professionals working in maternity with Italians? Could not be excluded. So Paul and Clare had to return. "We want to go back." "I think the local nurses who are at risk," says Clare. "It's heavy, staying here isolated, not being able to hug anyone. But we have to think about those who are still there. "Swarey died a few days ago: "The night was fine, the morning of our departure did not come to greet us from afar," says Clare. "I thought that lazy."