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Topic: ApexCoin Rebirth - Minable Proof Of Stake - Web Wallet - BlockNet Association - page 86. (Read 249953 times)

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Also being not anon would probably make merchants to accept APEX better too.

I also disagree with this. I believe most merchants do not want their whole sell and order history for competition or customers to see.

There's actually a merchant coin in development, which I cannot say what the coin is because they have not launched yet, that would disagree with your disagreement.  They actually believe merchants would prefer to not go anon.  However the verdict is as good as any for all we know, we just have to ask the merchants themselves.  Smiley
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These guys seem to me - and I am just speaking my mind here - but they seem to me to be sitting around saying "ok guys we got nothing idea wise - what do you want".

APEX TEAM - Let me tell you what we, and EVERYONE wants. Dev Teams with ideas. Dev Teams with the ability to communicate those ideas effectively to their customers, and attract new customers. Dev Teams who understand Branding, and PR, and Marketing, and Product Appeal.

Not seeing that here.

Waking up this morning - All I've seen in the last day is; We are working on it. Working on the wallet. New wallet coming.

Ok Dev Team- new wallet. We can't wait. Looking forward to seeing what you got for us soon. It better be a game changer.

Strato[/b]

I'm not entirely sure I'd say they appear to have no ideas, but the concept of the coin seems to be that the community decides on what they want to see. They could just as easily say everything in their polls are their 'ideas' and they will add them over time. I'm not saying they would do that, or could... just that because a coin asks a community what they want, it doesn't necessarily mean the dev team has no ideas.

Where they are strongly lacking is marketing/PR. They do need to present the coin a bit better, get the coin out there (articles, whatever). I don't mean hype either, just general info and communications. Maybe they should look for a team member who can handle that for them. I can use the TOR stuff as an example... besides coin holders who closely followed the thread, I doubt anyone even knew TOR was being worked on. It wasn't in the first page of the coin ann, header, and there wasn't a lot of hubbub about it. In hindsight, that obviously was a good idea, as TOR didn't work out. But PR-wise, they need to do a better job.

And wallet-wise, I strongly suggest they list what features will be added, offer screenshots when available, and a rough estimate of release date. It probably goes without saying, but make sure it works 100% with no bugs before release... think you get one shot with it. You have a strike against you with the TOR problems.

I do admit a lot of users were quiet about supporting APEX, but I wouldn't say it was not talked about.  To my knowledge, there were about 5 articles written about APEX and was coin of the day at other sites that I know of, but PR doesn't just stand on the dev's shoulders but rather on the community as well.  Good to hear the dev is working on something. 
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Just because one plan doesn't work doesn't mean the coin is dead especially since the dev is still here.   The dev could have ran but he didn't and wants to move forward.   I'll be ready for a big pay day, made the same calls on veri and voot chaching.   Smiley
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Is it possible to see the TOR code in a forked git, so we can have an idea what has been coded so far, to maybe restore some faith from the community.

And who knows, the community might actually think of another solution.


a reply to this would be appreciated

At this time, we would rather not let it into the wild, as anyone would be able to download and launch the coin for themselves.
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Is it possible to see the TOR code in a forked git, so we can have an idea what has been coded so far, to maybe restore some faith from the community.

And who knows, the community might actually think of another solution.


a reply to this would be appreciated
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These guys seem to me - and I am just speaking my mind here - but they seem to me to be sitting around saying "ok guys we got nothing idea wise - what do you want".

APEX TEAM - Let me tell you what we, and EVERYONE wants. Dev Teams with ideas. Dev Teams with the ability to communicate those ideas effectively to their customers, and attract new customers. Dev Teams who understand Branding, and PR, and Marketing, and Product Appeal.

Not seeing that here.

Waking up this morning - All I've seen in the last day is; We are working on it. Working on the wallet. New wallet coming.

Ok Dev Team- new wallet. We can't wait. Looking forward to seeing what you got for us soon. It better be a game changer.

Strato[/b]

I'm not entirely sure I'd say they appear to have no ideas, but the concept of the coin seems to be that the community decides on what they want to see. They could just as easily say everything in their polls are their 'ideas' and they will add them over time. I'm not saying they would do that, or could... just that because a coin asks a community what they want, it doesn't necessarily mean the dev team has no ideas.

Where they are strongly lacking is marketing/PR. They do need to present the coin a bit better, get the coin out there (articles, whatever). I don't mean hype either, just general info and communications. Maybe they should look for a team member who can handle that for them. I can use the TOR stuff as an example... besides coin holders who closely followed the thread, I doubt anyone even knew TOR was being worked on. It wasn't in the first page of the coin ann, header, and there wasn't a lot of hubbub about it. In hindsight, that obviously was a good idea, as TOR didn't work out. But PR-wise, they need to do a better job.

And wallet-wise, I strongly suggest they list what features will be added, offer screenshots when available, and a rough estimate of release date. It probably goes without saying, but make sure it works 100% with no bugs before release... think you get one shot with it. You have a strike against you with the TOR problems.
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I heard the dev's are working on new coin

dont know if true but common sense says it is possible.

why waste time on this fresh and dead coin when they can try again?

the market hated this coin.

I don't think the market hated the coin. I think the market was intrigued by the coin - from the standpoint of devs that pulled off a launch without a hitch, went to POS without a hitch. It could have been a winner. Perhaps it still can be. Perhaps the coin can be taken over - its open source - and take overs are not uncommon in cryptoland. Simply accumulate a lion share - hard fork and re-brand. Then put it out there that a 51% take over occurred, distribute coins in a sale - and move into another POW phase or POS phase. I am not advocating that here - but the Devs need to bring to their end users a bit more than "we are working".

That said however:

I think what has become clear is that while the Apex Team shows talent for the technical aspects of a coin - they need some serious assistance with the front line. Where is the general commanding the army - charging the men, who all believe in him and his valor; into battle.

These guys seem to me - and I am just speaking my mind here - but they seem to me to be sitting around saying "ok guys we got nothing idea wise - what do you want".

APEX TEAM - Let me tell you what we, and EVERYONE wants. Dev Teams with ideas. Dev Teams with the ability to communicate those ideas effectively to their customers, and attract new customers. Dev Teams who understand Branding, and PR, and Marketing, and Product Appeal.

Not seeing that here.

Waking up this morning - All I've seen in the last day is; We are working on it. Working on the wallet. New wallet coming.

Ok Dev Team- new wallet. We can't wait. Looking forward to seeing what you got for us soon. It better be a game changer.

Strato
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We are not working on a new coin, we are working on a new wallet.

I think you stated it'd be ready by sometime next week, correct? Something quick is a good idea, over something that would take weeks or months.

I still suggest the TOR giveaway, not necessarily before the wallet, but at sometime in the future. If you simply said you were planning it after the wallet, I think it would help keep prices stable. Besides, since you went to all of the work to get TOR working, might as well do something with it.
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We are not working on a new coin, we are working on a new wallet.

Thank you! Looking forward to it.  Grin
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We are not working on a new coin, we are working on a new wallet.

Come on guys...give them some trust...

Regards

Goldmaxx
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We are not working on a new coin, we are working on a new wallet.
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And for those asking for the devs to announce some plan, I believe the devs did announce an upcoming feature, the improved wallet, unless I am remembering wrong.
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I heard the dev's are working on new coin

dont know if true but common sense says it is possible.

why waste time on this fresh and dead coin when they can try again?

the market hated this coin.
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I heard the dev's are working on new coin

You heard? Where did you "heard" this?
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I heard the dev's are working on new coin
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I have to agree with stratoblitz here

the devs need to make a definitive call and show leadership period.

No waiting around no polls no talking.

make a call and stick to it and do it quick.

I guarentee come monday/tuesday and nothing

is definitivley announced then this coin will be dead.

Its just the way the crypto world works, yes the holders

willk be optamistic but lets face it the enormous amount of dmage

to the image of the coin will have been done, and there is just no coming back from

that, i've seen it many times before.

With one exception VOOT and the only reason that coin is going places is because  in the space of

less than a week a dev was found a blueprint was placed and stuck too religiously.

The pr was excellent and quick and too the point anything less and you're just flogging an dead horse.

I posted 2 days ago and still nothing is decided well really chaps thats just not on show leadership and act now.
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dark cash is their anonymous coin if anyone is interested. . I'd stay away though  Cool
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Is it possible to see the TOR code in a forked git, so we can have an idea what has been coded so far, to maybe restore some faith from the community.

And who knows, the community might actually think of another solution.

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Also being not anon would probably make merchants to accept APEX better too.

I also disagree with this. I believe most merchants do not want their whole sell and order history for competition or customers to see.
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I don`t care about tor
I don`t care if it will be swap or not.

But I care that we need something new with APEX.
Without development coin can die faster than with swaping.
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I am actually liking the idea of the dev making another coin for tor for those who want it and whoever wants to jump over can swap their coin.  I was hoping for tor too but now that I've learned how slow tor actually was and the gov all up in it due to laundering money and whatever else, I'm glad tor didn't happen.  Also being not anon would probably make merchants to accept APEX better too.  Considering the dev is still here talking, there's a comeback waiting to happen.  The coin code hasn't had any errors that many coins experience so we know the dev knows a little something about coding and this ain't your china scam coin.  I'm still into this coin and holding.  

What I was proposing wasn't even a swap. Consider it a giveaway. Basically use the APEX distribution as a way to distribute the TOR coin, sort of similar to how CLAMS is distributed. It could be 1:1, or differ proportionally based on max coins. It sounds like the dev considered it, but isn't going that route for now.

It could be something to consider down the road, not just for TOR, but any feature that would require forking. Noblecoin had a nice idea, which I'm not sure they still plan to do, of making partner coins. Basically the main coin is used to distribute other coins, based on holdings. That way, you certainly increase the value of the main coin, as it'd increase the odds of people wanting to hold it longterm ... as it'd make them free partner coins. And certain things, like TOR, would require forking or other nasty stuff that you really don't want to do on the main coin. Partner coins, for lack of a better term, could be something for devs to consider, as it is sort of unique in a way... a differentiating factor.

Assuming the dev stays active and still adds new things, I think the coin will recover. It is strange to think that before TOR was even decided as an upcoming feature, the value was still holding over 1000 ... and was considered pretty cheap even. So TOR or not, there should still be value there. Again, assuming the dev remains active, which is probably the real reason for the dump... people are extra skittish nowadays.
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