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June 16, 2014, 03:37:19 AM
This is the perfect beginners wallet. What I like most is that you can sweep private keys. I normally hand out prefilled paper wallets when explaining bitcoin.
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June 15, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
people still use apple produts ?
soooo 2013

but yeah, good news for you folks who do use apple and bitcoin in general. did they give a reason and to their change of heart ??

Apple has great products actually, it's just that they are uber expensive. I loved my iPhone when I had one and I've used Macs from other people.
The OS is great, it's just the hardware that is way too expensive.

I would say that they are expensive but they are worth the added price you pay. In terms of quality they are cheaper.
sr. member
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June 15, 2014, 11:46:38 AM
people still use apple produts ?
soooo 2013

but yeah, good news for you folks who do use apple and bitcoin in general. did they give a reason and to their change of heart ??

Apple has great products actually, it's just that they are uber expensive. I loved my iPhone when I had one and I've used Macs from other people.
The OS is great, it's just the hardware that is way too expensive.
sr. member
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June 15, 2014, 11:41:05 AM
I'd just like to remind everyone that any rouge app you install may steal your bitcoins, install apps with caution (bitcoin related or not)

I think this is what apple was so concerned about when they prevented bitcoin related apps from being sold/downloaded from the app store previously
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June 15, 2014, 11:38:38 AM
Don't jailbreak your iphone if you want it to be secure...

From where I came from , most people has jailbreak as they wouldn't want to spend money on apps
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Looking for the next big thing
June 15, 2014, 07:56:39 AM
In a few years from now, I think these apps will be more popular. Really, the future of bitcoin is on mobile.  Without mobile apps, I wouldn't invest because then bitcoin would be more like gold and not dollars.
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June 15, 2014, 05:08:18 AM
I'd just like to remind everyone that any rouge app you install may steal your bitcoins, install apps with caution (bitcoin related or not)


thats it.
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June 15, 2014, 02:32:04 AM
I'd just like to remind everyone that any rouge app you install may steal your bitcoins, install apps with caution (bitcoin related or not)
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June 14, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
After installing the cydia app I'm having trouble displaying the app on my home screen.
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June 14, 2014, 10:09:30 PM
I cannot in any way understand why anyone gives a flying fuck about what that dying dinosaur of a walled garden does. With the way they operate as a company they ought to be completely irrelevant in this world  Angry

You have a very unusual definition of dying dinosaur, as Apple is both growing and profitable.

Maybe I'm underestimating peoples joy of being sodomized.

Android hosts 99% of mobile malware and even flagship android phone buyers are often left out on upgrades.  The android upgrade problem is do bad the majority of android devices are out of date.

So who is getting fucked more?

Apple does a very good job at screening their apps against malware, apps with "hidden" charges and useless apps (one example of this was the app that cost $999 and was basically a bright picture of gold, and literally did nothing). In the process of doing this they also censor things they do not like. It is somewhat of a tradeoff.

I was pretty pissed, like most were, when Apple wouldn't allow Bitcoin Apps on their ISO devices. Clearly many were extremely upset and started to even destroy their IPhones.
That said, what you hit on is bringing up an important issue - Security.  I have yet to buy a Smart Phone, as my Ipad is enough of a time waster, though useful at work.

The latest I heard on a podcast (Think it was Epicenter Bitcoin) is that Apple is allowing wallets but might not be allowing Apps that allow the buying and selling of Bitcoin. (Local Bitcoins, Coinbase? Correct me if I am wrong).

So, this battle might just be getting started. I can see Apples perspective if they are being careful legally. But if it comes out that they are being self interested
or the like here (which doesn't look to be the case with the latest bans), then they just opened up a mountain of problems.

Its about sharing

I think part of the issue is consumer protection and part of it is they do not understand Bitcoin fully.

Since bitcoin transactions cannot be reversed once confirmed by the blockchain (and really once they are sent to the network) if a person makes a mistake or is scammed then they are simply out of luck. I think that a large amount of bitcoin related thefts have more to do with social engineering and less about security. Apple likely wants to tread lightly before allowing people to download an app that could potentially hold thousands of dollars of a user's money that could be stolen and would be no way to reverse a theft.

Thanks for the explation. Funny, I am unhappy with some of the apps I buy, some don't work well or at all, albeit rarely. I never even get a reply. I think apps should come with a 1 hr trial or the like.

A 1 hour trial would be an interesting way to do things.

I know that a lot of games on iTunes app store have both free (paid for via ads) and paid versions.

I would suggest checking the reviews prior to buying a paid app, especially when it is not from a larger dev.
sr. member
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June 14, 2014, 10:04:52 PM
Is it secure if it's Apple ?

I never own a Apple product before , I don't know how good is their security. Not that Android is very safe either  Undecided

Well, all of their apps are "screened". However, there have been some security folks who were able to slip some sly apps onto the app store a few times. It's all based on who reviews your app. However, when compared to google play store, you can list an app and it's available right away. So, when comparing these two i'd say yes, apple is a bit more secure.
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June 14, 2014, 09:30:23 PM
people still use apple produts ?
soooo 2013

but yeah, good news for you folks who do use apple and bitcoin in general. did they give a reason and to their change of heart ??
newbie
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June 14, 2014, 09:00:33 PM
This is going to make Google stop doing these small incremental changes they've been doing since ICS and unveil something huge to gain back that ground.
legendary
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Antifragile
June 14, 2014, 03:52:09 PM
I cannot in any way understand why anyone gives a flying fuck about what that dying dinosaur of a walled garden does. With the way they operate as a company they ought to be completely irrelevant in this world  Angry

You have a very unusual definition of dying dinosaur, as Apple is both growing and profitable.

Maybe I'm underestimating peoples joy of being sodomized.

Android hosts 99% of mobile malware and even flagship android phone buyers are often left out on upgrades.  The android upgrade problem is do bad the majority of android devices are out of date.

So who is getting fucked more?

Apple does a very good job at screening their apps against malware, apps with "hidden" charges and useless apps (one example of this was the app that cost $999 and was basically a bright picture of gold, and literally did nothing). In the process of doing this they also censor things they do not like. It is somewhat of a tradeoff.

I was pretty pissed, like most were, when Apple wouldn't allow Bitcoin Apps on their ISO devices. Clearly many were extremely upset and started to even destroy their IPhones.
That said, what you hit on is bringing up an important issue - Security.  I have yet to buy a Smart Phone, as my Ipad is enough of a time waster, though useful at work.

The latest I heard on a podcast (Think it was Epicenter Bitcoin) is that Apple is allowing wallets but might not be allowing Apps that allow the buying and selling of Bitcoin. (Local Bitcoins, Coinbase? Correct me if I am wrong).

So, this battle might just be getting started. I can see Apples perspective if they are being careful legally. But if it comes out that they are being self interested
or the like here (which doesn't look to be the case with the latest bans), then they just opened up a mountain of problems.

Its about sharing

I think part of the issue is consumer protection and part of it is they do not understand Bitcoin fully.

Since bitcoin transactions cannot be reversed once confirmed by the blockchain (and really once they are sent to the network) if a person makes a mistake or is scammed then they are simply out of luck. I think that a large amount of bitcoin related thefts have more to do with social engineering and less about security. Apple likely wants to tread lightly before allowing people to download an app that could potentially hold thousands of dollars of a user's money that could be stolen and would be no way to reverse a theft.

Thanks for the explation. Funny, I am unhappy with some of the apps I buy, some don't work well or at all, albeit rarely. I never even get a reply. I think apps should come with a 1 hr trial or the like.
sr. member
Activity: 560
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June 14, 2014, 03:48:21 PM
Is it secure if it's Apple ?

I never own a Apple product before , I don't know how good is their security. Not that Android is very safe either  Undecided
sr. member
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Merit: 250
June 14, 2014, 12:31:44 PM

For coinbase users, here's the response I got today from an inquiry about when their wallet app will be back in the apple app store:

"Already submitted, [my name removed]. Just waiting for Apple to approve it. Be sure to check the blog at blog.coinbase.com for announcements. Believe me, you’re not the only one who wants this back up and running."


So, looks like this should be another option in addition to the 4-5 already up today  Smiley

sr. member
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It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin
June 14, 2014, 11:29:21 AM
I cannot in any way understand why anyone gives a flying fuck about what that dying dinosaur of a walled garden does. With the way they operate as a company they ought to be completely irrelevant in this world  Angry

You have a very unusual definition of dying dinosaur, as Apple is both growing and profitable.

Maybe I'm underestimating peoples joy of being sodomized.

Android hosts 99% of mobile malware and even flagship android phone buyers are often left out on upgrades.  The android upgrade problem is do bad the majority of android devices are out of date.

So who is getting fucked more?

Apple does a very good job at screening their apps against malware, apps with "hidden" charges and useless apps (one example of this was the app that cost $999 and was basically a bright picture of gold, and literally did nothing). In the process of doing this they also censor things they do not like. It is somewhat of a tradeoff.

I was pretty pissed, like most were, when Apple wouldn't allow Bitcoin Apps on their ISO devices. Clearly many were extremely upset and started to even destroy their IPhones.
That said, what you hit on is bringing up an important issue - Security.  I have yet to buy a Smart Phone, as my Ipad is enough of a time waster, though useful at work.

The latest I heard on a podcast (Think it was Epicenter Bitcoin) is that Apple is allowing wallets but might not be allowing Apps that allow the buying and selling of Bitcoin. (Local Bitcoins, Coinbase? Correct me if I am wrong).

So, this battle might just be getting started. I can see Apples perspective if they are being careful legally. But if it comes out that they are being self interested
or the like here (which doesn't look to be the case with the latest bans), then they just opened up a mountain of problems.

Its about sharing

I think part of the issue is consumer protection and part of it is they do not understand Bitcoin fully.

Since bitcoin transactions cannot be reversed once confirmed by the blockchain (and really once they are sent to the network) if a person makes a mistake or is scammed then they are simply out of luck. I think that a large amount of bitcoin related thefts have more to do with social engineering and less about security. Apple likely wants to tread lightly before allowing people to download an app that could potentially hold thousands of dollars of a user's money that could be stolen and would be no way to reverse a theft.
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June 14, 2014, 10:05:59 AM
I want the official blockchain.info app back in the app store! Currently downloading it through Cydia works fine but I prefer an official app.
legendary
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June 14, 2014, 10:01:47 AM
That's a big news ! I hope that Apple improve definitely Bitcoin Smiley
sr. member
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June 14, 2014, 10:01:21 AM
As I always say, it's just a matter of time and BTC will go viral, give time some time.
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