Topic: Are provably fair gambling sites really provable? (Read 2972 times)

Most of the gamblings site are reliable and there are a lot of them but as for me  Drakemall is one of the best because I play there often and it offers good items almost for free also you can buy mystery boxes there with cool stuff in

Most of the well known gambling sites offer pretty much instant withdraws unless you are attempting something fishy like using them as a mixer or try and abuse their faucet. The ones that halt and freeze withdraws are already well known on Bitcointalk gambling section and all it takes is a little reading of the last few pages in the corresponding thread to know where you might get issues. One example of this is Safedice.

And again most of the well known and large casinos are all KYC free. Right now there isn't much regulation unlike exchanges so most don't require KYC. The only ones that might require it is if you try and do something illegal like mixing some BTC and they might want your ID in case they got a questionable deposit. One example of this is tainted BTC which might of came from some BTC hack.

A Fair gambling site. Which do you regard as a fair gambling site? What are your determining criteria for a fair gambling site? What is your yardstick for your conclusion? I would like to know. I have gone through a lot of sites. I have played some interesting game but what I really want to is how you came about that conclusion. Because most sites are all about the same.


 O yes, there are many casino/gambling sites but I never agree with all. They all claim to be fair and good but offer nothing special apart from giving gamblers their due. And most of them even waste time before they pay gamblers and you call that fair. When do we realize that we ought to take the bull by the horn and work towards promoting good gambling websites.


For me, I would call a gambling site “fair” when they allow me to bet without me showing them my I.D since I have neither requested for their tax payers license nor have I requested to know about their registration documents. I have also never asked to know how they designed their system. So the least can do for me is to pay me on time and most importantly “ don’t give me troubles” whenever I come around gambling.


I have found some decent casino sites I can call “fair”. Because they fulfill the criteria I listed above. And most importantly they don’t give me troubles when it comes to deposits and withdrawals. They are a sure thing to me because they have that extra coloring and enticement that I term sweet. “ The deposit bonus”. Examples include Betchain, Nitrogen sports, Betonline and Vegascasino. I have a strong affinity for Vegas. You would want to ask why. Because they offer huge deposit bonus and a massive 225% deposit bonus for 1st deposits. And maybe because they ushered and welcomed me well into the world of casinos.

Gambling is for having fun so it all depends on individuals interest. We can't ask everyone go for sports betting. There is already a system to verify our bets so we should randomly need to verify and it will our responsibility because we are spending money to get entertainment. It is not possible to verify each and every bet and to catch whether a site is cheating or not we just need to verify few bets randomly. 

Sometimes sites are cheating and just not caught like I remember a site did that, they used to skip the seeds somehow and scam site, while they were highly reputed. Can't recall their name but yeah truly trusted until then.

I believe for this same reason we should more gamble on sports than in dice, because the verification system is quite complex and we can't just verify each bet using that long and tiring procedure.

Bitsler is a genuine site but yes I agree we must verif your rolls very often like 1 in every 10 bets. Obviously its impossible to just verify each and every bet as this would make gambling boring. This is one reason why I love to play on blockchain based gambling sites like satnonce ( now closed I think ) because there are no issues as such with those games.

As you said it is better to be fair. It will pay off in longer time. And if investors are allowed you can make some profit. If I open casino or exchange I would play fair. I don't understand why exchanges go off or bankrupt. The job of exchanges is security a couple of workers support workers for messages and thats it... Long term they will profit a lot more then just getting 100 BTC.

I would definitely do the same if im the gambling site owner.Its better to run off on a fair casino/gambling site because i know it will paid off later when it already gain popularity later on. Its more worth than to ran off on a unfair/rigged site which it wont really last because most gamblers do really notice if a site isnt provably fair at all.

Mate sha is a technique that can'e be decrypted by anyone. Basically you get a strong from them and you add a string of yours own ahead on of it and then you do some sha operations on it to obtain a number. This is in short, there is a long procedure as you might have seen, basically if they use other seeds and shows other seeds then the result won't match with the actual roll.

Provably since they making sure that their reputation will not been stain by any problem whos occuring on them thats why mostly of them fix things up as soon as possible they can so thats why its very advisable to gamble on those establish since we will not worry by gambling our bets and worrying about the site where we are betting on.

@FortuneJack Posters.Your posts makes me want to throw up.Like there is dumb and then there are fortuneJack posters. 

Where do you buy luck ? Oh your luck is much bigger than my luck is! Basically you are trying to prove casinos control your luck.

Don't mind him,he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about.

Well,that's why you should play at crypto-games.net. 100% provably fair,100% customer satisfaction guaranteed.

Yeah, since the reputable ones don't cheat their gamblers, if they do it would be published and they will surely lose bettors. That is why reputable gambling sites really take care of their reputation. I think gambling sites already earn a lot even if they don't cheat their gamblers.

That's why you should always need to choose the well-reputed sites to gamble because these reputed sites know that they can make a good profit in the longer run without cheating people. As long as gamblers play these games longer then surely these gambling houses are going to make a lot of money and that's why they will not try to cheap players for small amounts.

I don't think its only luck. I think what makes someone a winner and someone a loser in dice is capital.

If you got 1000BTC in total, its very easy for you to take small bets easily win 1-10BTC or so. However for someone with 1 BTC, its very difficult and risky for them to win another 1 BTC.

Most of the large whales that bet 10BTC per bet, they just use a regular martingale strategy, only difference is they almost never run out of capital and keep betting and betting until they are positive.

Well playing at unprovably fair site is actually can be called suicide since how come they win if the system of the site make them lose always and I don't think also that their are more people playing at that since the game whos not been fair is been busted by their seed and by those people who got more knowledge on how this things work, So as you said might better truly if we just play on those well known site so if we encounter such little error then we can still breath closely since we know that they are fair and trusted.

Winning money from gambling sites is depends on our luck as long as we play on a trusted probably fair sites. But if you choose to play on not probably fair sites then winning chances are nill. So I always only deposit money in good trusted and old sites to play and never keep my coins in any of the gambling sites. Before I close the gambling site will withdraw my money because anything can happen with these casinos.

Yes but that's because the casino has a slight house edge against you. If you only make a few rolls then the house edge is not really going to affect you. But the reason why people end up losing BTC is because instead of making 0.10 BTC bets on dice they make 0.00001000 Sats bets on dice like 100,000 rolls and end up losing slowly.

They don't realize that the more you bet, the house you have of going bust.

Do me a favor. Pick one number between 1 - 100000. Here is sha 256 hash for it: ceee05e41bad07a1c8935c26ae7cbe68f5de1e8ef529140f3e55347d2bdaedc6
If you win maybe i will send you that amount of satoshi. If you lose than you send me 1000 satoshi - it's pretty much how gambling and provably system works.
You are right, there is mechanism - it's called house edge. It means that you can win but you probably won't because house has advantage over you.
Maybe you are 

I prefer to check about the casino legitimacy here on BitcoinTalk Forum, in the official threads of the casinos. If there are good reviews here, they are legit for me. But it doesn't mean we will make profit, it doesn't decrease the risk to lose money. Casinos will still make profit on long term and most gamblers will still lose their money...

its hard for me as well as to how some of these sites would not be able to fake and cheat easily as a good chunk do not know how to check and all the details behind doing so.

Im looking to do my own little small betting over outcomes on this we both know would be fair.