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Topic: Are we legally associated with advertised services? - page 3. (Read 624 times)

legendary
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Purely hypothetical, but let's say either Betnomi or ChipMixer does money laundering (without the acknowledgement of their campaign participants). Are participants considered guilty, from a legislation point of view, for accepting laundered funds?
Most of the large banks in my country have been found guilty of money laundering. The banks paid a fine, management collected their bonuses, and that's it. The end.

I think it's not the best way to look at it as it would be fair to say that (at least in most places) the treatment of banks in comparison to the treatment of people in regards to most crimes are in two very different realms. Banks commit monstrosities and get fines. While sometimes even innocent people get time. Point being, a person who does happen to have legal troubles shouldn't expect to get a fine in a situation where bank would.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Purely hypothetical, but let's say either Betnomi or ChipMixer does money laundering (without the acknowledgement of their campaign participants). Are participants considered guilty, from a legislation point of view, for accepting laundered funds?
Most of the large banks in my country have been found guilty of money laundering. The banks paid a fine, management collected their bonuses, and that's it. The end.
legendary
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You're at best a third part contractor doing promotional and advertising services for another company. Of course, the laws will be different around the world so what would happen would be different depending on jurisdiction but there's little chance you would personally be in trouble, but maybe your country has different laws on what people are allowed to advertise. I'm sure you could potentially get into trouble for advertising illegal services but I would be very surprised if someone came after you or other people who were advertising a company on some random website. How would they even know who you are? It's not like you've signed a contract with them and they have all your details that law enforcement can get if they shut down a service. All they have is a username on a forum unless they subpoena the board to get more information but I doubt that would happen just to try find out who was advertising them here. With that being said, if you're worried about something then I would err on the side of caution.
legendary
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I'm not into the law, and there might be differences in each country's legislation, but I'm concerned about this. Am I considered a co-worker of the services I advertise? If the authorities strive for shutting down one of these services in my signature and avatar, am I subjected to this activity as well? If the CEO of either ChipMixer or Betnomi (as examples) is proved to be guilty, am I guilty as well?

Asking a lawyer is probably a better idea, but I'm just curious if someone else has had the same concern before.
One of the signature campaigns that were working here was seized[1], however, there was no court ruling related to the individuals participating in the signature campaign[2], and some of the most popular scam ICOs[3] were published in this forum.

Therefore, for users, they are safe, but I do not think that this will be the case for campaign managers, as they are part of this system unless they write explicitly that they do not know information and that their role is limited to tracking posts and receiving payments.


[1] Dutch Police, Europol seize crypto transaction mixing service
[2] [CFNP] BestMixer Signature Campaign | Sr. Members - Legendary | Up to 0.01225BTC
[3] [ANN][ICO] 🚀 Confido - Trustless escrow payments with shipment tracking
legendary
Activity: 1666
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No. The entire advertising industry would collapse if that would happen.
Sure, but I think the answer isn't as absolute as it might sound. If I advertise a service, aren't I considered an employee of that service? Or aren't I an employee at all? Am I considered working for somebody else? Am I subjected to the integrity of that else?

Purely hypothetical, but let's say either Betnomi or ChipMixer does money laundering (without the acknowledgement of their campaign participants). Are participants considered guilty, from a legislation point of view, for accepting laundered funds? We don't sign any legal documents when submitting the registration form, and I'm curious how far can the authorities reach this.

You could be considered "affiliated" by accepting payment for advertising the service. I think that it is highly unlikely that an authority would reach their arm all the way from the founder of the service, to those who work on it technically/directly in some way, to those who manage campaigns, then to you, just for being paid a few dollars per post to have some flashy text in your signature. I doubt the arm would even reach as far as the campaign manager. As LoyceV said, the entire advertising industry would collapse if things worked that way and if it worked like this at maximum efficiency, the population of incarcerated versus not would probably be way out of balance.

If you are worried about being prosecuted for being very slightly and temporarily affiliated with a service that is very likely to have some users that are using it for illicit purposes (which is almost certain with mixing services if I'm not wrong), then don't. If you were ever prosecuted, it's probably likely that it's not the primary reason that whatever authority responsible was coming to you. I would assume (take with a grain of salt) that you'd have nothing to worry about if  you aren't already under watch for a much more serious reason and/or you are doing basic things to sufficiently upkeep your privacy.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 7340
Farewell, Leo
No. The entire advertising industry would collapse if that would happen.
Sure, but I think the answer isn't as absolute as it might sound. If I advertise a service, aren't I considered an employee of that service? Or aren't I an employee at all? Am I considered working for somebody else? Am I subjected to the integrity of that else?

Purely hypothetical, but let's say either Betnomi or ChipMixer does money laundering (without the acknowledgement of their campaign participants). Are participants considered guilty, from a legislation point of view, for accepting laundered funds? We don't sign any legal documents when submitting the registration form, and I'm curious how far can the authorities reach this.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Am I considered a co-worker of the services I advertise?
No. The entire advertising industry would collapse if that would happen.

Just think.. In all likelihood CM is an NSA honeypot anyway, lol..
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legendary
Activity: 1512
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Farewell, Leo
I'm not into the law, and there might be differences in each country's legislation, but I'm concerned about this. Am I considered a co-worker of the services I advertise? If the authorities strive for shutting down one of these services in my signature and avatar, am I subjected to this activity as well? If the CEO of either ChipMixer or Betnomi (as examples) is proved to be guilty, am I guilty as well?

Asking a lawyer is probably a better idea, but I'm just curious if someone else had had the same concern before.
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