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November 30, 2023, 10:04:00 PM
#75
Rather than discover Satoshi Nakamoto, it is advisable to focus on Bitcoin adaptation. Bitcoin has been running smoothly without Satoshi, so it's unnecessary to find him. Revealing himself would be harmful for him; legal action would be taken against him due to various reasons. So it will be very harmful for the whole cryptocurrency industry. Satoshi is brilliant since he is the creator of Bitcoin. So he is doing everything smartly. I just ignore whoever claims to be Satoshi; they all want to become public figures.
Even if you say that and others may share the sentiment including me, you and everyone that shared that sentiment can't still help with the fact that there are curious people that wants to uncover the identity behind the legendary Satoshi Nakamoto, as much as we are tired of them and their antics of how to find the identity we just have to bear with their actions as long as it doesn't hurt bitcoin or they hurt any people with their investigation then good for them. Regarding the legal reasons for the uncovering of the identity, I think that even if we stop the online sleuths, there's probably an agency in the government that's doing the same investigation because they want to charge Satoshi or have Satoshi face criminal charges. Those people that claim Satoshi is actually a good thing because that would mean that investigations will be slowed down because they have to confirm this claims and imagine the idea that with all this charlatan claiming to be the founder, Satoshi revealed himself and people would probably dismiss him as someone just claiming to be one.
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November 30, 2023, 09:33:21 PM
#74
Satoshi has created it and it is running as it should be.
So, like what deviser created in the past, Even they no longer exist, their creations are still ongoing until today like lamps, electrical, televisions, cars, etc.
This means, we don't need Satoshi anymore, because we can develop itself without his direction.
Bitcoin development has become increasingly rapid without satoshi. The Bitcoin networks are getting better after satoshi leave, this mean the bitcoin team is always work in line with what satoshi expected.
Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin, initiated Bitcoin blockchain by mining the Genesis block and developed Bitcoin in early months.

Now 14 years after the Bitcoin Genesis Block, Bitcoin is no longer a baby and it can continue its life, survive without Satoshi Nakamoto. Bitcoin network is decentralized, it has open source code and there are massive developer communities to support and continue developments for Bitcoin. In 2023, there are more Bitcoin developers than in 2008, 2009 or 2010 so why do we have to need Satoshi Nakamoto in 2023 and in future?

Bitcoin developer list https://bitcoindevlist.com/
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November 30, 2023, 09:29:24 PM
#73
We need Satoshi.
He made big invention in digital age and brought Bitcoin who is revolutionary invention.
It is like Tesla or Newton and will be remember by everyone very much later.

I vote yes.
Satoshi has created it and it is running as it should be.
So, like what deviser created in the past, Even they no longer exist, their creations are still ongoing until today like lamps, electrical, televisions, cars, etc.
This means, we don't need Satoshi anymore, because we can develop itself without his direction.
Bitcoin development has become increasingly rapid without satoshi. The Bitcoin networks are getting better after satoshi leave, this mean the bitcoin team is always work in line with what satoshi expected.
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October 20, 2023, 03:50:45 AM
#72
We still need him if he really wants to return to the bitcoin community and continue to grow it. He is the one who created bitcoin, we should respect him, and never say we don't need him.

For those who don't hope for Satoshi's return, that's not to disrespect his masterpiece. The legacy left by Satohoshi must be maintained from generation to generation.
The way to honor Satoshi for his creation of Bitcoin which is a solution to a pretty good system is to convey to everyone about the advantages and uses of Bitcoin that are worth conveying.

I agree with the pool that they don't expect Satoshi to return because for me let Satoshi be a figure that no one knows so that he becomes the person who contributed most to the greatness of the Bitcoin system in modern financial technology.

The appearance of fake Satohosi in various rooms made me panic because I was still very young here, but I didn't easily believe that he was the hero.
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October 19, 2023, 08:05:09 PM
#71
Rather than discover Satoshi Nakamoto, it is advisable to focus on Bitcoin adaptation. Bitcoin has been running smoothly without Satoshi, so it's unnecessary to find him.
The disappearance of Satoshi Nakamoto, in my opinion, helps Bitcoin development more smoothly. I think if Satoshi Nakamoto is still here, Bitcoin community including Bitcoin Core developers will continue to have some dependence on Satoshi Nakamoto's vision and opinion so that it will affect Bitcoin technical developments a lot.

Without Satoshi Nakamoto engagement, Bitcoin communities are more freely to drive Bitcoin developments to direction they think is best in a more decentralized way for Protocol upgrade.
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October 19, 2023, 03:50:47 PM
#70
Rather than discover Satoshi Nakamoto, it is advisable to focus on Bitcoin adaptation. Bitcoin has been running smoothly without Satoshi, so it's unnecessary to find him. Revealing himself would be harmful for him; legal action would be taken against him due to various reasons. So it will be very harmful for the whole cryptocurrency industry. Satoshi is brilliant since he is the creator of Bitcoin. So he is doing everything smartly. I just ignore whoever claims to be Satoshi; they all want to become public figures.
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October 19, 2023, 09:43:44 AM
#69
It is true that bitcoin has existed and developed for many years without Satoshi so it is not wrong to say that we no longer need him. But if he comes back, will we still not welcome and need him? At least he is the creator of bitcoin, if we need ideas to help bitcoin scale or fix some problems, I believe he will still have better ideas than the current developers. I still think he's one level smarter than us because otherwise, why would he have the idea to create bitcoin and not you or anyone else?
I doubt that Satoshi will ever comeback, he knows better than anyone that if he did showed up then he will be under heavy surveillance and at some point his real identity will be revealed, and in that case it would not surprise me if several governments accused him of several crimes and sent him to prison, while at the same time they began a campaign against him in order to discredit the idea behind bitcoin, so coming back only has disadvantages for Satoshi if you think about it.

I agree with you, the possibility of Satoshi coming back to us is very low because he will face more dangers than he will receive great welcomes or benefits.  but if bitcoin is recognized by the government and becomes legal worldwide, and then he shows up, I think that's not too surprising. maybe he's decided never to show up again or maybe he's waiting for the right moment to show up.  the moment all governments accept bitcoin and people will freely use bitcoin is probably the perfect time for him to appear.  everything is possible, nothing is impossible.
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October 19, 2023, 09:05:04 AM
#68
We need Satoshi.
He made big invention in digital age and brought Bitcoin who is revolutionary invention.
It is like Tesla or Newton and will be remember by everyone very much later.

I vote yes.
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October 19, 2023, 09:01:40 AM
#67
it was not real satoshi, he was just an imposist who claimed to be real satoshi. and why are people afraid when "real satoshi" appears? what needs to be feared? are people afraid that he will sell all his assets? or what? there is nothing to fear when he appears because if he is smart enough to create bitcoin then he is not stupid to sell all his assets.

and especially he is a creator of bitcoin, there is no reason for us not to need it, even a reason for us to scare him. but with his absence now, it is still the best for the development of bitcoin.

If someone who has been missing for a long time suddenly appears there must be something, then surely the return of satoshi will have an impact on the price of bitcoin. The bitcoin community will speculate that if satoshis return, they may have more faith in bitcoin or vice versa, but it is still best as it is now without satoshis.

Satoshi is a legend, he must have had calculations for what he did, including his decision to disappear from the public. Honestly, I'm not afraid if he comes back, but whatever happens to him, I hope he gets the best place wherever he is.

I also see a lot of people being scared if Satoshi appears and I really don't understand why. As for me, whether he appears or not doesn't change anything, bitcoin doesn't belong to him, it has become an asset controlled by the community. And even if he sells his bitcoin, I don't believe it will have any major impact on bitcoin in the long term. It's even better for us because the bitcoins are divided equally among everyone instead of just focusing on one person and having everyone always scared about it.

That's right, because the main idea of bitcoin was that blockchain technology was spreading like a virus (in a good way) and increasing the number of its users. And all this despite the fact that it is independent, does not have a primary owner. That's why I'm still enjoying this idea. No one can control the blockchain. And to fight with him is to fight with torrents. If at least someone has torrents in the world, then they cannot be calculated, but they can continue to distribute the desired file.This is freedom in the digital space.
legendary
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October 19, 2023, 08:32:52 AM
#66
It's not that we don't need him, we owe a lot to him but this is the worst time for him to come out the mainstream media will go frenzy they will go after him whenever he goes and it will harm his family and privacy, he instantly becomes the target.

We are better off without him in the spotlight, if he can communicate to us in a way that he cannot be traced and at the same time he can give us proof that it is really him then that will be okay we can ask him questions that baffle us all these years.
But wherever he is we hope he is good, he deserves great things for bringing us Bitcoin that revolutionizes the modern generation
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October 19, 2023, 07:56:06 AM
#65
it was not real satoshi, he was just an imposist who claimed to be real satoshi. and why are people afraid when "real satoshi" appears? what needs to be feared? are people afraid that he will sell all his assets? or what? there is nothing to fear when he appears because if he is smart enough to create bitcoin then he is not stupid to sell all his assets.

and especially he is a creator of bitcoin, there is no reason for us not to need it, even a reason for us to scare him. but with his absence now, it is still the best for the development of bitcoin.

If someone who has been missing for a long time suddenly appears there must be something, then surely the return of satoshi will have an impact on the price of bitcoin. The bitcoin community will speculate that if satoshis return, they may have more faith in bitcoin or vice versa, but it is still best as it is now without satoshis.

Satoshi is a legend, he must have had calculations for what he did, including his decision to disappear from the public. Honestly, I'm not afraid if he comes back, but whatever happens to him, I hope he gets the best place wherever he is.

I also see a lot of people being scared if Satoshi appears and I really don't understand why. As for me, whether he appears or not doesn't change anything, bitcoin doesn't belong to him, it has become an asset controlled by the community. And even if he sells his bitcoin, I don't believe it will have any major impact on bitcoin in the long term. It's even better for us because the bitcoins are divided equally among everyone instead of just focusing on one person and having everyone always scared about it.
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October 19, 2023, 07:04:57 AM
#64
it was not real satoshi, he was just an imposist who claimed to be real satoshi. and why are people afraid when "real satoshi" appears? what needs to be feared? are people afraid that he will sell all his assets? or what? there is nothing to fear when he appears because if he is smart enough to create bitcoin then he is not stupid to sell all his assets.

and especially he is a creator of bitcoin, there is no reason for us not to need it, even a reason for us to scare him. but with his absence now, it is still the best for the development of bitcoin.

If someone who has been missing for a long time suddenly appears there must be something, then surely the return of satoshi will have an impact on the price of bitcoin. The bitcoin community will speculate that if satoshis return, they may have more faith in bitcoin or vice versa, but it is still best as it is now without satoshis.

Satoshi is a legend, he must have had calculations for what he did, including his decision to disappear from the public. Honestly, I'm not afraid if he comes back, but whatever happens to him, I hope he gets the best place wherever he is.
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October 18, 2023, 11:43:38 PM
#63
it was not real satoshi, he was just an imposist who claimed to be real satoshi. and why are people afraid when "real satoshi" appears? what needs to be feared? are people afraid that he will sell all his assets? or what? there is nothing to fear when he appears because if he is smart enough to create bitcoin then he is not stupid to sell all his assets.

and especially he is a creator of bitcoin, there is no reason for us not to need it, even a reason for us to scare him. but with his absence now, it is still the best for the development of bitcoin.
legendary
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October 18, 2023, 10:54:04 PM
#62
I understand the fear of some people of the possibility of Satoshi's emergence. It's probably not about Satoshi tearing down the blockchain or changing the source code. It's more selfish than that. I guess the main reason for their fear is the possibility of Satoshi selling his/her/their coins. And they only fear such possibility because Satoshi has more than a million, that's worth tens of billions of USD, and that it certainly means that their small amounts of Bitcoin will surely lose a lot of value.

In other words, their fear is that their investment would lose rather than gain. That's basically there is to it.

If they are afraid that Satoshi selling bitcoin will reduce the value of bitcoin then that is the opposite of what they say every day. I see many people always claiming that they will sell all assets or buy as much as possible. if bitcoin drops to $5k or $1k, then they will buy regardless. They see this as an opportunity to buy bitcoin because they missed that opportunity before. Those claims were all over social media and even on our forums during last year's bear season if you were paying attention. So if what you say is true then aren't they contradicting their previous statements?

There are a couple of possibilities.

1. They're probably just lying. They simply want to hype Bitcoin, emphasize its limited supply, cause a FOMO, urge people to buy, and so on simply because they want the price to rise and make money out of it. So, don't believe them because if Bitcoin drops to $5,000 tomorrow, many of these same people will panic sell instead of buy.

2. They're not necessarily contradicting themselves. Their selfish fears are completely reasonable. If Satoshi appeared and moved his/her/their coins presumably for liquidation, it's probably just right that they sell immediately and buy back at a price they consider the bottom.
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October 18, 2023, 10:16:07 PM
#61
Many people are afraid if Satoshi shows up today, he will be sold his (million bitcoin, there is no evidence yet) he has.
So, what is he waiting for not having sold it on ATH before?.
Honestly, we really don't know if Satoshi this day is still alive and one thing for sure that they really care about the price of Bitcoin. He is a very smart person and I know that if he puts his Bitcoin in one wallet, it will get a negative impact to Bitcoin's price. So it's wise if he spread his Bitcoin to many wallets. We don't know if Satoshi have sold his Bitcoin at ATH because for me that's not what he aiming for. And if ever he do, he only sold some of Bitcoin because selling all their Bitcoin at one time will make Bitcoin die.

Whales and institutions are the cause of the impulsive movement of prices, maybe one of those whales was Satoshi — we never know.

We are always confident that no one can kill bitcoin and bitcoin will exist forever, but why are you pessimistic if Satoshi sells all his bitcoin? That sounds too pessimistic and unreasonable. Even if he sells those 1 million bitcoins, I don't think that will cause bitcoin to die, the bitcoin supply is 21 million bitcoins, not just 1 or 2 million bitcoins. There would definitely be a huge panic if he woke up and sold all his bitcoins but that wouldn't kill bitcoin, I bet you that. Bitcoin does not depend on anyone, not even Satoshi or any other shark in the market.
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October 18, 2023, 09:52:22 PM
#60
I understand the fear of some people of the possibility of Satoshi's emergence. It's probably not about Satoshi tearing down the blockchain or changing the source code. It's more selfish than that. I guess the main reason for their fear is the possibility of Satoshi selling his/her/their coins. And they only fear such possibility because Satoshi has more than a million, that's worth tens of billions of USD, and that it certainly means that their small amounts of Bitcoin will surely lose a lot of value.

In other words, their fear is that their investment would lose rather than gain. That's basically there is to it.

If they are afraid that Satoshi selling bitcoin will reduce the value of bitcoin then that is the opposite of what they say every day. I see many people always claiming that they will sell all assets or buy as much as possible. if bitcoin drops to $5k or $1k, then they will buy regardless. They see this as an opportunity to buy bitcoin because they missed that opportunity before. Those claims were all over social media and even on our forums during last year's bear season if you were paying attention. So if what you say is true then aren't they contradicting their previous statements?
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October 18, 2023, 07:55:34 PM
#59
There is a lot of controversy about the emergence of satoshi on social media and other websites. I still don't know, what the purpose of someone creating this idiot riot on the internet is. Because for me, I don't need Satoshi anymore, bitcoin still exists (even bigger) with or without Satoshi.

Many people are afraid if Satoshi shows up today, he will change the source code and tear down Bitcoin blockchain. that is the stupidest thinking I ever hear. Because bitcoin is a public, and have community that cannot be changed by just one person.

Many people are afraid if Satoshi shows up today, he will be sold his (million bitcoin, there is no evidence yet) he has.
So, what is he waiting for not having sold it on ATH before?.

we don't need Satoshi, let him become a legend for his name, we have to thank to him for making the greatest thing in this century. I will be the 1st person agree if he gets the Nobel Prize. But, for emergence today, I'm the first person who doesn't believe it.

Because of questions like this, many fake satoshis have appeared on social media platforms claiming to be Satoshi, but the truth is they are not. And the others maintain that they are really Satoshi Nakamoto, but they are not.

That's right, Satoshi has given us a financial solution to our money problems. Even if he doesn't identify himself, he knows he will be popular, and it happened that he became popular without showing his true identity.
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October 18, 2023, 07:02:43 PM
#58
I understand the fear of some people of the possibility of Satoshi's emergence. It's probably not about Satoshi tearing down the blockchain or changing the source code. It's more selfish than that. I guess the main reason for their fear is the possibility of Satoshi selling his/her/their coins. And they only fear such possibility because Satoshi has more than a million, that's worth tens of billions of USD, and that it certainly means that their small amounts of Bitcoin will surely lose a lot of value.

In other words, their fear is that their investment would lose rather than gain. That's basically there is to it.
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October 18, 2023, 06:59:24 PM
#57
Well I have been talking about this alot so lately. And I do think it is now a topic we are all talking about is cause of the recent 'satoshi' spotting on twitter.
It is clearly Faketoshi, Craig Wright who is controlled the Satoshi twitter.
Real Satoshi won't do something ridiculous. If we learned what he posted when he was still active in this forum, he always posted something valuable.

But if we are being honest here then no I do not think we satoshi. He has already been a honorable man for what he did for Bitcoin. And this is not something that any one can ever take away from him or his legacy.
Indeed. Satoshi will be always Satoshi, no one can replace him. He will remain the only person who created Bitcoin forever.

However, Bitcoin is owned by many people now. And Bitcoin keep growing although Satoshi has disappeared. That makes people think that we don't need Satoshi anymore. It is not about the legacy of Bitcoin or the creator status of Bitcoin, but it is about the role of Satoshi to keep the existence of Bitcoin. People think without Satoshi, Bitcoin has no problem to survive and to keep growing.

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October 18, 2023, 06:09:09 PM
#56
Many people are afraid if Satoshi shows up today, he will be sold his (million bitcoin, there is no evidence yet) he has.
So, what is he waiting for not having sold it on ATH before?.

we don't need Satoshi, let him become a legend for his name, we have to thank to him for making the greatest thing in this century. I will be the 1st person agree if he gets the Nobel Prize. But, for emergence today, I'm the first person who doesn't believe it.

I think if satoshi appears again then something will definitely happen with bitcoin, maybe the price will go up or maybe even go down because satoshi has a lot of bitcoin and makes people afraid that satoshi will sell bitcoin. Even though the possibility is very small, the fear is still there and will influence the market

I agree that conditions like now are the best. Bitcoin became very independent without Satoshi and let Satoshi become a legend and history will record him with a very extraordinary record
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