Topic: Are You Using A Journal Spreadsheets Will Pave The Way For Addiction To Gambling (Read 598 times)

It just affect the psychology.

Let's say I gamble everyday for $5, I won't mind $5 since it's just a small money, till end of the month, I don't feel wrong for spending $5 per day. But if I write down all of my expenses and I see I've spent $150 for gambling, I might feel wrong and kind of regret since $150 is quite big. So, he will decrease the money for gambling to the price that he feel acceptable.

But if the gambler know $150 is nothing for him, the journaling won't help anything, just add unnecessary work.

This will have many points of view about someone who keeps his own betting journal as a target in his gambling, for me it is something that will be detrimental because my gambling orientation is as entertainment, but maybe for some other people his orientation is like a challenge in their lives to get pleasure to fulfill his ambitions like in that thread, he said he would increase his money in soccer betting, because honestly it was difficult but he tried to record it to achieve the target he would strive for.

I don't think it is necessarily a path to addiction, because if he limits his money and limits his gambling time he will bet with discipline and will not have an addictive effect.

When a gambler becomes addicted to gambling, the gambler himself realizes that he is addicted to gambling, but when he becomes addicted, he cannot come out of that addiction even if he wants to. The gambler is gambling and sometimes the results go in his favor and sometimes the results go against him thus he keeps on gambling. However, when the gambler feels that he cannot control himself and gambles against his will, then he must be considered to be in danger of gambling. A gambler can gamble according to rules but if he is addicted to gambling then bad things await him in future. If there is a system where a gambler will gamble but not get addicted to gambling I think that site is fine for every gambler.

Nope. and let me explain why it doesn't, and why you think creating spreadsheets for your bets turns you into a gambling addict.

Why You Think Spreadsheets Induce Gambling Addiction: The reason why you assume that everyone who makes a table of the bets they have made eventually turn out to be chronic gamblers, is because you assume that creating such journals compel them to gamble more, you assume that just because they are now able to track their stuff, they'd be more confident to make belligerent bets since they can get back to it anyway in case they forget them, or that they are on the verge of becoming responsible gamblers, so now they can go crazy, this is simply untrue, and primarily for these reasons

Why It Prevents You From Becoming Addicted To Gambling: First off, creating a spreadsheet allows you to see your gambling behavior for what it truly is, allows you to track your expenses so you can ensure you don't go overboard or something, and ultimately it gives an itemized list of where your money went, letting off on you the full weight of your gambling behavior, whether it be healthy or not. These compel you to become more prudent with your money and be more sensitive to your gambling urges, which in turn makes you a more responsible gambler.

So no, journals and spreadsheets don't turn you into a gambling addict.

Yes, that's another one. No one wants to consume his time in spending recording all of those losses and wins. If you win, then so be it and the same goes for your losses. You don't have to be recorder of those when it's not going to change the results of yours. At some point, you can only benefit from it due to the activity of being organized and recording data.
But what's next? there's not that much next to it. And you don't have to bother it unless you are treating it as a business and you need to track all of those data that you're gathering from time to time. So, if you are up for it then that's totally okay as no one is going to stop you if that makes productive and a better gambler.

Although it is not going to take that much time but you it's quite hassle, isn't it? That's why we tell that it is consuming time, maybe not that much for some but that 'much' could be small for the others but not for us.

I thought journals and spreadsheet were meant to be for the purpose of record keeping and accountability, and not a deciding factor which could either stop or ignite gambling addition about individuals. Because the truth of the fact is that some could still have 1000 journals, and yet still becomes a chronic gambler. So these tools are meant to help a gambler keep track on his/her activity within a specified period of time, and not act as the solution to gambling addiction.  So just as gambling are willful act done for the purpose of fun or for money. It will only take that same willful and a decision to start gambling responsibly, to curb it's  addiction .

Come on! what does using a spreadsheet, sports betting have to do with addiction: everything and nothing, yeah, that is simply. whether you take the world of betting seriously or not, equally, any software support or not , it does not imply professional results or being successful, these topics seem like "trenches" in search of getting a topic where there is none.

Done this using my laptop and I don’t find it complicated thing to do since it just a simple copy paste once the result is out. Casino has a category for settled bets and summarized everything that makes it very easy to transfer on spreadsheet via computer.

Unless you are making hundred bets a day then this task is really complicated. But normal sports bettor/gambler usually have a few picks for the day while casino records are available under the profile transaction history. Some casino even have a statistics feature that shows your gambling progress on different time frames.

People like gambling, and your fun, responsible approach is great. And I respect that. Its about having fun while staying calm. Its significant to keep a gambling journal. Thats winning. Being professional. Talking about responsible gambling is crucial. Control and success management are the issues, not addiction. The notebook doesnt ruin fun. To improve it. Consider this: only play with what you can lose. You recover easily. Smart and strategic. The winners do it. Yes, some may laugh at a journal. I see it as a sign of a serious winner who appreciates the game and knows their boundaries. Its winning, I promise.

That means, you only use gambling to have fun and not to makes money while that's good for you because you can playing gambling without emotions. Many people makes their journal or spreadsheets because they wants to knows how much money they already used to playing gambling. But instead to check the money, that can makes them tempts to keeps playing gambling because they wants to gets their money back. We can makes a journal or spreadsheets but we must have good self control so we don't attract to comes back to the casino and have intention to recovers our lose. We can manage our funds that we used to playing gambling and apply limitations to avoids the big lose and that's our job to always control our funds to playing gambling. We can't lets ourselves spends much money to playing gambling because we must manages that money for our lives.

I dont want to see my losses and that is why I do not record any of them.

I organize thinga but I do not want someone to see something that I leave on track that might have seen by my any relative.

You know family matters, it is always an issue if someone is a gambler. Always have been a negative impression.

Honestly, it's a lot of work. I've tried it before during the FIBA basketball league and I can say that it takes a lot of effort to put it all on the list especially if there are a lot of games that will happen in a day.
But I cannot say that I went through gambling addiction just by doing that. It just made me realize how much my winning and losing rates and I can say I've won some amount but didn't really feel it because I was also playing casino games while doing the sports betting in the said event.

It's not about taking it seriously, recording things can help to decide your next bet, and history could sometimes repeat itself so you can use that record in the spreadsheet and maybe increase your winning chance.

No, I'm busy and I don't want to wasting my time.

Many people told we need to track our income and spending, so always record the money you make and every time you spend your money. It's used to make people able to manage their money and will not run out their money before they get paid in the next month. I would say it's bullshit, you don't have to track all of your income and spending, just adopt minimalism lifestyle, you won't spend money for unnecessary needs.

Whatever tracking they do if they have an attitude to extend more because they think they are not satisfied with the result they get and think about betting more for taking a chance to recover then everything what they do would be useless. And they can still get affected on abusive action they do which lead into addiction.
But if they can handle so well all of those things they do and make those journals spreadsheets what OP mentioned as a guide to follow then maybe he could able to bet those feeling to have an urge to gamble since he could able to see if he's losing to much or seeing enough gains. Overall its all matter on the discipline of the person since if he can execute all according to his plans then for sure each action he do will be fine and he will think about checking the sheet before taking risky decisions.

You are a good gambler and you are gambling responsibly. It is like someone to be asking me if I should be having the money that I spent during weekends on beer on records, which is just small amount of money which is not even on every weekends. I gamble just during weekends because I am always exhausted during the weekdays with work, while I only use just small amount of money on gambling which is not even often. Why having records on a journal for something that is not that irrelevant in my money management.

Nope, I don't take it so serious mate due to unavailability of my funds to be used for gambling. Sometimes I can bet for lottery at the local outlet on streets, but there's no focused emotions in times of losses.
Only luck can tell if winning moments will be for me, and I'm just thankful for those money I've bee using to contribute to gambling businesses particular with online betting. Having fun isn't bad but putting gambling to addiction will be worst.

About this, I won't say I'm surprised, it is all about how we take betting. Some take betting as a casual extra activity where they can try their luck and have fun without laying so much seriousness to it, while others may take it seriously. Among those who take it seriously will surely be those who are trying to be thorough with it to the extent of having their gambling record. Either, I can't take gambling that seriously even though I am fully engaged. I have other things to rack my brain with than gambling, and my philosophy about it is that if I win, I win, and if I lose, I lose, life goes on. However, a thing that I do better in gambling is to make sure that I am committed to responsible gambling, that's just it.

As for your questions, the only way someone will have a journal for gambling will ever be for accountability and I do not think such a gambler can be addicted or be an irresponsible gambler doing that. The moment the person is addicted and irresponsible is the moment that he will even forget he has a gambling journal. Surely, this is not about the way to win or analyze better, even in sports betting, all the records are online for your consumption, and can even be stored in the brain for future use. For these, I think his motive is for proper recording and accountability.

There are individuals who may choose to keep their own journal or spreadsheet with regards to responsible gambling. They take a more serious approach to gambling and use this tool as a means of risk management and loss limitation. For them, journals or spreadsheets are tools for making data-based and more precise decisions.

However, for others, using a journal or spreadsheet can be an indication of addiction. If someone is too fixated on tracking every bet and its outcome, this may indicate that they are getting out of control with their gambling habits. This can lead them towards neglecting financial and personal tasks, wasting time and energy on other aspects of life.

Using a journal or spreadsheet to manage gambling can be a smart strategy, but vigilance for signs of addiction is key. Take action to ensure gambling remains healthy and responsible. If you detect that the use of these tools is impacting your life or triggering unwanted behavior, seek help and support immediately. Use a smart approach to maintain health and responsibility in gambling.

I do not have a journal or any kind of way to register my wins or losses after each gambling session, since I am the kind of person who actually believes those tools are indeed a faster way to get trapped by gambling addiction. It is better just to slowly forget about losses and enjoy wins when they are big enough for us to buy something nice.
Since the house is supposed to always to over gamblers in the long term, having a gambling journal only encourages gamblers to continue to wager in the long term (for the sake of always having positive balance against the casino), that will ultimately finish with losses which will encourage further to gamble more and more and increase the wager.
So, that is what I personally think of those journals or registers. They are not good for the purpose of gambling being seen as a way to entertain ourselves and exclusively use money which we can afford to lose.

I had not seen that thread, by the way, I doubt that person will be able to achieve his goal (if he does, then congratulations).

I do not have a personally made spreadsheet since the casino has our cash flow record and the statistics of our gambling performance.  Besides, I always look at gambling as an entertainment that can possibly give me profit so I do not take it seriously as a career or as a main source of income.  But I take it seriously when it comes to moderation and responsible gambling because I know that one slip of discipline can possibly trigger gambling addiction.