Topic: Are You Using A Journal Spreadsheets Will Pave The Way For Addiction To Gambling - page 3. (Read 600 times)

First off, it's pave, not fave. Fave is a slang or informal version of favorite.

I guess you're confusing gambling with bankroll management. To make a journal or spreadsheet of your bets doesn't necessarily mean taking gambling seriously. But it certainly means taking money seriously.

I can't see any reason why making a good accounting of your bets would lead to addiction. On the contrary, since it provides you a summary of your bets, a bigger picture of your vice at least as far as its financial aspect is concerned, it might even encourage you to stop or gamble moderately.

Finally, to make a spreadsheet or a journal is not "looking for ways and a means to win". A spreadsheet is for tracking your gambling expenses, wins or losses. It isn't a strategy for winning.

I used to have a spreadsheet to track my bets but I eventually stopped because it already served its purpose and helped me take gambling less seriously. It still helps a lot if you're planning to take sports betting seriously, if you don't want to spend much effort you can find some tracking templates shared by other bettors.

If it's for luck-based games, it won't offer that much help because you're set up to lose even if you change your strategy or avoid specific games.

Yes, this is true on which whether you do have a journal or not, the risks of addiction or possibilities or probabilities would really be there because everything would really be just that depending into someones mind and if you are someone whose really that having that high hopes on making money with gambling then no matter what you would really be doing will really be having that kind of impact on which you are really that putting yourself into that potential addiction on which we know that it is really that too hard for you to get out once you've been addicted. This is something that you should really be having in your mind is that never ever make yourself having that kind of intent in mind about making money with gambling because this would make things got worst.

Having some tracking on your betting or trying out to achieve something isnt that bad because if this something that could give out that thrill then go ahead.
As long you are really that only spending on the amount that you have budgeted or allocated with that particular goal then it would really be just that fine.

Things like this can actually make us chasing our losses or even make us lazy and dont want to work anymore because based on that journal we are still in profits after a month/year.
Maybe this is necessary for pro gamblers who only rely an income from gambling, but for ordinary gamblers it is not that important.
Not to mention, for those who live in countries where gambling is illegal, a journal like that could bring trouble for the owner.

Well, addiction depends on the individual. Having a journal or spreadsheet of your gambling winnings and loss, won't define you as someone who is serious in gambling. I saw that post as well, and he's just doing ut for additional entertainment because other people would also be aware of what he wants to happen.Personally, addiction is more likely to exist with gamblers who never tracked their winnings and losses because they're more likely to just continue betting as much as they can. Using a journal or record will even help you decide with the amount you are about to engage for that day, week, or month. Not unless you'd allow emotions to take over you. There's a tendency that a player knowing how big his loss is, would push his way of winning by betting more until the desire of him was filled.

Am even shocked hearing this that some person actually do have or keep records of their gambling games because I don't know of such thing, for me it's all for the moment with my gambling habits. Although when the loses do get to me, I sometimes do a little calculation in my head just to get the figures straight.😁😁

Nope, I don't have a journal or spreadsheet for gambling, and I am no longer taking gambling as seriously as before, when I was jobless and still a student. I gamble occasionally now. 

From that topic, which you are referring to, I remember I made a comment there yesterday, and from what I understand regarding the OP talk, I think he meant that he was going to use that thread to update the readers about his success in the journey he wants to take towards using 0.05 BTC to win 1.7 BTC. I don't think he really meant to say it was a journal. I am not so sure, but I think it might have been a "miss use of words. Just a guess, though; I might be wrong too. 

But it's different though, in trading we have strategies, in gambling their is none, all you can write is what games you play and how much you lose or win on that particular game. After that there no plan or strategy whatsoever. But yeah, all of the online casinos now have transaction logs already, and it's readily available to you as you can see the data that you want to see. Unless you to go land base casinos as your main platform and not online. The approach is pretty much the same, bring in some money as capital and at the end of the night, you will also known how much money you spend. But a journal won't help.

Not really no? It's just a pretty easy way to tally your gambles, especially for people who want to have a clear idea about what the hell happened throughout their entire journey. Now if I wasn't a lazy ass I would've done the same, which I did one time, but at some point, I just forgot all about it lol.

In his case, I wouldn't consider it as addiction or anything, seriously? Maybe. But it's more so because he's turning it into a challenge of sorts. That's why he needs a journal. Now idk the logic exactly as to why you want to have a journal, but it's always better to have one when you're turning it into a challenge of sorts than not having one.

Keeping such record means the gambler is taking it as a business or investment that he doesn't do from time to time or at intervals but on a daily or consistent basis and that is the reason he has to keep the record to ensure to keep track of his results both for loses and for profit. I don't have such record because at the moment I am a heavy gambler unlike in the past. However, to keep such record is a factor that also makes someone to be addicted to gambling because when you see you have lost more you will also chase to recover which is one emotional factor in all human. The cause of greed is also part of this emotional aspect to gambling.

I'm not sure about others but personally I don't prefer to have my own gambling journal. I'm not a addict or seriously into gambling and sometimes I don't place bets for many days while other times I place 2-4 bets per day. However, I've never used spreadsheets to write the statistics of my bets.

I wouldn't say tracking bets turns you into an addict.  Lotsa folks keep journals or spreadsheets to follow their gambling.  It helps spot things - like if you got bad habits popping up or maybe a lucky streak rideing in.  Sure, some get carried away with the tracking, but that can happen with anything and  just 'cause you write down what you buy don't mean youre obsessed with shopping or something. 

Point is, tracking ain't just for addicts.  Regular people do it too.  It's a solid way to keep your bets organized.  Doesn't have to be a bad thing.

Nope, im not really doing such thing on having that kind of tracking or some sort but its not really that bad for someone to make use of those things on which on the time that you do gambling then each one of us would really be having that different approach. If the guy turns out on having that kind of trying out to achieve those numbers then let him be, its his money and its his risks to be taken. Its not bad on having those spreadsheets or whatever forms of tracking because having to look about progress or fails is something that you could be able to spot out. The important thing on here is that on whatever conditions that you are into whether hitting the goal or having that huge loses is that you could be able to stop midway immediately since you've been aware on whats happening.

The only issue on here is on the time that you would really be getting addicted and this is something that you should really be avoiding at all cost if you dont really like to mess up your life with.
This is only the main thing that you should be having in mind because control and moderation would be the key for you to avoid such condition.

This is a thing of preference and priority, if such gambler sees it a means to help him keep a track on his gambling habits, he can uses such in which same may not applies on others, if we are also going to consider by the way of being private, not everyone will like to take this decision as a welcome idea at all, some like keeping their gambling lifestyle a secret, any of this will not encourage for addiction on any ground except the gambler is not doing the right thing from the way he gambles.

 

He is clearly thinking that gambling is a means of making a profit, which is why he will be writing it down on a spreadsheet because he thinks that by doing so, he will be able to manage better. when in fact it will be useless, he will lose all his money, he will be frustrated and disappointed with himself. Unfortunately, most people don't like to listen when they are warned about the dangers of looking at gambling as a source of income instead of playing for fun without thinking about obtaining any financial gain. Most people think that when other people warn about the great danger of looking at gambling as a source of income, it is a lie. They even start to hate all the people who keep talking about how gambling should not be seen as a source of income

look at op's case, he is even already making plans to turn 0.05 into 1.7 as if gambling, particularly sports betting, were very easy to predict and generate profits. When he starts to lose and has to put more money back into the bookmaker, and loses everything again and puts more money back into the bookmaker, then he will realize that he has been spending a lot of his life stressed, chasing impossible profits, losing time and money, whereas you could have been playing without pressure and just for fun and it would have been much better

Some claim gambling journals and spreadsheets are the devil. Got it. Tracking too much feeds addiction. Big surprise: it's how you utilize the tool, not the instrument itself. Smart people know this. Those instruments don't become traps, they reveal them. Mindset matters. When done right, tracking bets is powerful. Accountability; not obsession. Awareness is taught everywhere, right? This shows awareness. Wins and defeats, revealed. That understanding is what divides winners from failures, trust me. Record-keeping can confront reality and inspire change. Don't fear, use it. Key? Do not make tracking a game. A tool, not the strategy. Use it to see patterns, make informed choices, and balance risks. People, that's responsible gambling. We keep ahead that way. It's the reverse of escalating. If they disagree, they're missing the point.

Back in my undergraduate days I had this roommate who had this book typical of a journal he uses for recording of his gambling bets. More interestingly is that he had all the major Europe club leagues tables written on that book. Additionally , all his previous predictions in that football season you can find it boldly written in that book.

I don't know how he has the time to be doing all of that but what I discovered going through that book/journal was that despite all the data analysis he will gather about a team in each respective league before making his predictions on them he still wasn't getting much wins for someone taking up such meticulous seriousness and passion  with his gambling.

Having a spreadsheet is like having a time table for gambling and that is following up with the trend at a time, although only active gambler's need this journal or time table and by being active some people may take it as being addicted to gambling.


Much more also we have to align ourselves with our various level of understanding and how we take gambling.

There is a guy I know, who is a full time gambler, I mean a professional gambler(gambles for a living)and when I talk about gambling for a living, I mean he got his three cars off gambling, married off gambling and already embarking on a house project and all major proceeds are from gambling and his a typical example of people who take gambling really serious .

I think, keeping record of one’s gambling is also a good one as it will help one stay in track and know if they’re actually doing well and when to take a break, hence I think having a spreadsheet is a good one for a gambler from my perspective

I'm using a spreadsheet to keep track of my expenses in gambling. IMO this does not equate to me being an addict to gambling, but rather just being responsible with my finances since I know how to keep track of where things are going and how much am I spending for, say, a certain period of time. It's true that it means that I'm taking gambling seriously, but not to the extent that I'm into gambling but rather trying to just make sure that I'm not really losing a lot of money and I will have the chance to reassess what I'm doing.