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I don't live in Europe so I can't tell if anything positive would come out of this but one thing's for certain, EU will make the divorce painful for UK. It seems UK has been a bit skeptical with joining it in the first place anyway, for example they haven't even adopted the euro. Provided that UK manage to renegotiate favorable trade deals I don't really see them being weakened a lot.

The main problem is that parts and territories of the UK wanted to stay in the EU. Scotland for example has aired displeasure at Brexit and could attempt another referendum. Gibraltar (I dunno if they can vote to leave UK) has also expressed desire to stay.
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As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

The rest of the world could give a shit what happens to the UK and the EU.
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I think it will be the best for the UK to quit from EU. Especially now with all these refuges and all these bad things that happen there, almost every day. They have to be like they were a few years ago, a strong country, who is one of the biggest economies in the world.
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It seems the European Union dictated to the British people about what and what not to do and being once a world super power and also proud nation. They didn't want that any longer. Even the Queen supported Brexit. They made their choices overwhelmingly.
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I think it was bad move. Going there as a refugee will be much harder now
I think that refugees need to be taken only in case if they face prosecution by the state for the opposition to power. In all other cases people should defend their country. Why encourage the traitors?

Please enlighten us as to how you would "defend" from air strikes if you're just an ordinary person?  Take this particular example from last week in Mosul.  If those people had fled, they may still be alive.  And even if you had survived that, what would you have left materially?  You would need to go somewhere else and start again, so it's understandable that you might want to rebuild your new life somewhere far away from the conflict that just took everything from you.  

Are people on the internet even capable of empathy?  Come to think of it, "people" is probably too generous a word in your case.  You're demonstrating some sub-human tendencies there.  I mean, traitors?  Seriously?  As if loyalty to some arbitrary borders you happen to reside in is somehow a priority considering what some refugees have been through.  These people want to live, you ignorant asshat.
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I think it was bad move. Going there as a refugee will be much harder now
I think that refugees need to be taken only in case if they face prosecution by the state for the opposition to power. In all other cases people should defend their country. Why encourage the traitors?
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I think it was bad move. Going there as a refugee will be much harder now
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As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

I support science and technology development. It is probably impossible to think an opposite here, on bitcointalk.org forum.
European Union is a great project, the start for the globalisation, which we can and we should support.
All immigration and other issues, coming from globalisation can be fixed technologically, but not politically.
Traditional politics should give way to technologies.
Globalization brings additional opportunities in the cat market expansion, sales and marketing, but at the cost of sovereignty. The UK is not accustomed to obey, and in the EU it is not possible. The migrant crisis has become the last reason for brexit. I believe that the migrants expensive price for the UK.
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Ah, I remember this thread.  Not sure if the bump was actually worth it, but since it already happened:

Firstly, I am not a European citizens so my opinion might be inaccurate. As far as I know, Britain economy does benefit from the free movement as it provide it with free labors who come from east.
Also leaving the EU will not be good for exporting goods from Britain to the rest of EU because there will be taxes
mass immigration from poorer countries does not benefit us, it lowers wages and raises rents

the question was why do we need a parliament and courts and all the other nonsense to be able to trade with each other


We don't.

It's just this little thing, don't know if you heard of it, it's called WWII. And after that, the European governments decided it might be cool to have something a little bit stronger than a simple free trade zone. Something that makes all the european countries allies. So be stronger together.

It's laughable that as soon as we trigger leaving, the old guard right-wingers start crawling out of the woodwork, publicly airing their wet dreams and fantasies of a war with Spain over the sovereignty of Gibraltar.  It's pretty much indicative of the mentality of most leavers.  They still genuinely believe Britain is some sort of grand empire that will simply conquer other nations at the drop of a hat.  It's pathetic.

Quote from: the Guardian article
“It is unbelievable that within a week of triggering article 50 there are Conservatives already discussing potential wars with our European neighbours.

“In only a few days the Conservative right are turning long term allies into potential enemies. I hope this isn’t a sign of the government’s approach to the long negotiations to come.”

He claimed Brexiters had gone from cheering to “sabre-rattling for war” within four days. “It is absolutely ludicrous and totally inflammatory.”

We were stronger together, but now that we aren't, all the nutjobs and crackpots see the chance to voice their insanity in an environment they deem more accommodating toward violence, divisiveness and warmongering.  I suspect this sort of thing is just the tip of a big scary iceberg.  All aboard the fascism train!  Destination: Fucked.

Welcome to the new Great Hate Britain.  
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As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?

I support science and technology development. It is probably impossible to think an opposite here, on bitcointalk.org forum.
European Union is a great project, the start for the globalisation, which we can and we should support.
All immigration and other issues, coming from globalisation can be fixed technologically, but not politically.
Traditional politics should give way to technologies.
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I don't think a regular citizen or person in the EU would care that much or anything at all... if you ask me, EU has turned into siht, started ok with the trade freedom but now it went astray...
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Aren't they the only country turning a profit?  All the rest are leeches, like Greece?

Germany might be the most important "donor" nation, but they are not the only one.

Donors: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Sweden, and United Kingdom.

Parasites: Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Spain.
You confuse the parasites with marketplaces...In my country the german supermarkets made over  4 billion Euro, and guess what, all the money goes in Germany. Do you want to talk about resources ( natural resources) ...
The UK's people did what was correct for their country and nation.

I called them parasites, because the citizens from these nations were exploiting the welfare payment system in countries such as the United Kingdom and Germany. For example, in the UK there were reports of Polish immigrants claiming child welfare benefits for children residing back home. And there were reports of Romanian Gypsies claiming disability benefits using fraudulent documents.

You call them parasites because you're happy to tar entire nations with the actions of a minority.  It's all prejudice, scapegoats, intolerance and discrimination with you.  It'll be clear to anyone reading your posts who the real parasite is.  As for "exploiting" countries' resources it's a drop in the ocean compared to what British colonialism accomplished, so quit your nimby whining.
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Aren't they the only country turning a profit?  All the rest are leeches, like Greece?

Germany might be the most important "donor" nation, but they are not the only one.

Donors: Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Sweden, and United Kingdom.

Parasites: Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Greece, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, and Spain.
You confuse the parasites with marketplaces...In my country the german supermarkets made over  4 billion Euro, and guess what, all the money goes in Germany. Do you want to talk about resources ( natural resources) ...
The UK's people did what was correct for their country and nation.

I called them parasites, because the citizens from these nations were exploiting the welfare payment system in countries such as the United Kingdom and Germany. For example, in the UK there were reports of Polish immigrants claiming child welfare benefits for children residing back home. And there were reports of Romanian Gypsies claiming disability benefits using fraudulent documents.
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It was voted for by a bunch of stupid people fed lies.

Short term people might deel they got a result. Long term nothing much is gonna change apart from everyone being worse off.



Let's just hope everyone will not be so worse off.
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THANK FUCK WE ARE OUT Grin Grin..

Except we aren't yet.  Article 50 still hasn't been triggered.  If you're basing your opinion on what's happened since the referendum and thinking we'll be fine outside of Europe, you've been doing it wrong.  As of right now, we are still very much a member of the EU.  We'll all have to wait and see what happens once we actually leave.
Good point sir Grin..But when we do get out all will be good..Also if not triggered by early 2017
then UKIP will be the next labour party 100% this will happen they will win the next election..

Also Mrs may will lead us out if she wont she will loose next election Grin..
WE ARE BRITISH WE CAN DO ANYTHING ..WE ARE TO SMART OF A NATION TO FAIL..

The Independent posted this just yesterday:  

Brexit ‘could be delayed until late 2019’ with Whitehall departments not yet ready to trigger Article 50

Also, it still strikes me as odd that people on a forum about a borderless, nationless currency can have such strong nationalist tendencies and care so strongly about protecting their borders.  

the British colonies (...)
the British Empire (...)

WE RULED THE WORLD Wink Wink..

Is that not kind of a double standard?  It's okay for this country to invade and conquer others, but they aren't allowed to come here to live and work?
Anyone can still come to the uk..
Just we need to know who you are and what you do before we open the door Grin
Not to worry it will get triggered next year or UKIP will win the next election Grin..

One thing that was funny see how many muslims voted out Cheesy Cheesy because they knew white polish will take over there towns Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..
SO FUNNY Cheesy
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THANK FUCK WE ARE OUT Grin Grin..

Except we aren't yet.  Article 50 still hasn't been triggered.  If you're basing your opinion on what's happened since the referendum and thinking we'll be fine outside of Europe, you've been doing it wrong.  As of right now, we are still very much a member of the EU.  We'll all have to wait and see what happens once we actually leave.
Good point sir Grin..But when we do get out all will be good..Also if not triggered by early 2017
then UKIP will be the next labour party 100% this will happen they will win the next election..

Also Mrs may will lead us out if she wont she will loose next election Grin..
WE ARE BRITISH WE CAN DO ANYTHING ..WE ARE TO SMART OF A NATION TO FAIL..

The Independent posted this just yesterday:  

Brexit ‘could be delayed until late 2019’ with Whitehall departments not yet ready to trigger Article 50

Also, it still strikes me as odd that people on a forum about a borderless, nationless currency can have such strong nationalist tendencies and care so strongly about protecting their borders.  

the British colonies (...)
the British Empire (...)

WE RULED THE WORLD Wink Wink..

Is that not kind of a double standard?  It's okay for this country to invade and conquer others, but they aren't allowed to come here to live and work?
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THANK FUCK WE ARE OUT Grin Grin..

Except we aren't yet.  Article 50 still hasn't been triggered.  If you're basing your opinion on what's happened since the referendum and thinking we'll be fine outside of Europe, you've been doing it wrong.  As of right now, we are still very much a member of the EU.  We'll all have to wait and see what happens once we actually leave.

If anyone in Brussels had any brainpower, they could easily deny the payments that the UK makes to them (membership fees)
Return any monies and do not accept further payments, OUT it's that simple, rules can be amended at anytime.

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I AM BRITISH  Angry NOT GERMAN Cheesy Cheesy..
America is British AKA ENGLISH...You need to do your history Grin..
Britain was USA motherland America is Britain..Just like Australia is British..
Your people are BRITAIN descendants Grin Grin..

English America, and later British America, refers to the English, and later British territories in the Americas (including Bermuda), Central America, the Caribbean, and Guyana from 1607 to 1783. Formally, the British colonies in North America were known as British America and the British West Indies until 1776, when the Thirteen British Colonies located along the Atlantic seaboard declared their independence and formed the United States of America.[1] After that, British North America (or, simply but not inclusively, Canada) was used to describe the remainder of Britain's continental North American possessions. The term "British North America" was first used informally in 1783, but it was uncommon before the Report on the Affairs of British North America (1839), called the Durham Report.

British America gained large amounts of new territory following the Treaty of Paris (1763) which ended Britain's involvement in the Seven Years' War. At the start of the American War of Independence in 1775, the British Empire included 20 colonies north and east of New Spain (present-day areas of Mexico and the Western United States). East and West Florida were ceded to Spain in the Treaty of Paris (1783) which ended the American Revolution, and then ceded by Spain to the United States in 1819. All but one of the remaining colonies of British North America apart from the British West Indies united together from 1867 to 1873 forming the Dominion of Canada. Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949.

WE RULED THE WORLD Wink Wink..
All the white in most other countries are BRITISH Grin Grin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHNfvJc99YY..





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