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LOL why would i cry or even wish to go back to something we never wanted in the first place, the eu will sink without england, and sink it shall, we are leaving........ we have gone as far as we can go technologically, yet we still leave people to starve mostly because of stupid brainless failed projects such as the EU LOL get an education

Ok I think everyone here can see that this man opinion is... Special.

And by special I mean "heavily flawed and based on nothing but some biggotery lies".

The simple fact to say "we have gone as far as we can go technologically" is an insult to both the thousands of scientists actually working for a better tomorrow but to whole humanity who never took such stupid statement for granted.

you sir are clearly a brainless fool who has no idea about the real world in which we reside, NO IDEA WHAT SO EVER Sad our technology which we are allowed are 50 year old military cast offs, think about what we would have access to if it was not classified, now like i stated once before, go get an education before attempting and failing to ridicule a more intelligent brain than your own Tongue
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LOL why would i cry or even wish to go back to something we never wanted in the first place, the eu will sink without england, and sink it shall, we are leaving........ we have gone as far as we can go technologically, yet we still leave people to starve mostly because of stupid brainless failed projects such as the EU LOL get an education

Ok I think everyone here can see that this man opinion is... Special.

And by special I mean "heavily flawed and based on nothing but some biggotery lies".

The simple fact to say "we have gone as far as we can go technologically" is an insult to both the thousands of scientists actually working for a better tomorrow but to whole humanity who never took such stupid statement for granted.
sr. member
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

The numbers are from 2014, but i just found the numbers for 2015 from your treasury:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483344/EU_finances_2015_final_web_09122015.pdf#page=18

its about ~23,3 million a day now -> 0,46 pound per day or 170 pound per year per brit.

(oh and btw. even if the 55 would be right - GB does not sent it: the thatcher rabate is calculated at source - there is no payback from the eu, GB just sends less or rather the other EU states pays for GB)

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this is not all actually, there is even more money for GB in the form of direct subsidies for research and etc for the private sector which accumulates to more the 1 billion pound. (2013 was 1,4 billion pound)

i dont care what fabrications they publish, what they told us a few year ago is they supposedly negotiated us into paying something like 908 billion by 2020, thats not negotiation, and im english i do not agree to pay them a penny i am my own government and i have no treaties contracts or agreements with them, they are deceiving you all and playing with your desires and you dont even know it, this is what they do, here is $1000 ive just typed it up and its real, you can use it as money if you like, but if you do use it as money you have to pay me back $1100 of real money to cancel the debt, they are taking the planet over piece by piece and enslaving you all with debt and the desire to work when there are no jobs so silly jobs are created to keep up the circle of the workers funding the bankers :/


Well if you don't agree paying around 170 pounds a year to have the right of free travel in the whole Europe, freedom of exchange, European cooperation over incredible scientific projects, European school exchanges...

Then vote for out. Just don't come back in 10 years crying about the fact that the other European countries discovered fusion thanks to the CERN and have common exchanges between schools. And don't cry that no one will buy your English product anymore as they'll be taxed entering European Union.

LOL why would i cry or even wish to go back to something we never wanted in the first place, the eu will sink without england, and sink it shall, we are leaving........ we have gone as far as we can go technologically, yet we still leave people to starve mostly because of stupid brainless failed projects such as the EU LOL get an education
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

The numbers are from 2014, but i just found the numbers for 2015 from your treasury:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483344/EU_finances_2015_final_web_09122015.pdf#page=18

its about ~23,3 million a day now -> 0,46 pound per day or 170 pound per year per brit.

(oh and btw. even if the 55 would be right - GB does not sent it: the thatcher rabate is calculated at source - there is no payback from the eu, GB just sends less or rather the other EU states pays for GB)

/edit

this is not all actually, there is even more money for GB in the form of direct subsidies for research and etc for the private sector which accumulates to more the 1 billion pound. (2013 was 1,4 billion pound)

i dont care what fabrications they publish, what they told us a few year ago is they supposedly negotiated us into paying something like 908 billion by 2020, thats not negotiation, and im english i do not agree to pay them a penny i am my own government and i have no treaties contracts or agreements with them, they are deceiving you all and playing with your desires and you dont even know it, this is what they do, here is $1000 ive just typed it up and its real, you can use it as money if you like, but if you do use it as money you have to pay me back $1100 of real money to cancel the debt, they are taking the planet over piece by piece and enslaving you all with debt and the desire to work when there are no jobs so silly jobs are created to keep up the circle of the workers funding the bankers :/


Well if you don't agree paying around 170 pounds a year to have the right of free travel in the whole Europe, freedom of exchange, European cooperation over incredible scientific projects, European school exchanges...

Then vote for out. Just don't come back in 10 years crying about the fact that the other European countries discovered fusion thanks to the CERN and have common exchanges between schools. And don't cry that no one will buy your English product anymore as they'll be taxed entering European Union.
sr. member
Activity: 882
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

The numbers are from 2014, but i just found the numbers for 2015 from your treasury:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483344/EU_finances_2015_final_web_09122015.pdf#page=18

its about ~23,3 million a day now -> 0,46 pound per day or 170 pound per year per brit.

(oh and btw. even if the 55 would be right - GB does not sent it: the thatcher rabate is calculated at source - there is no payback from the eu, GB just sends less or rather the other EU states pays for GB)

/edit

this is not all actually, there is even more money for GB in the form of direct subsidies for research and etc for the private sector which accumulates to more the 1 billion pound. (2013 was 1,4 billion pound)

i dont care what fabrications they publish, what they told us a few year ago is they supposedly negotiated us into paying something like 908 billion by 2020, thats not negotiation, and im english i do not agree to pay them a penny i am my own government and i have no treaties contracts or agreements with them, they are deceiving you all and playing with your desires and you dont even know it, this is what they do, here is $1000 ive just typed it up and its real, you can use it as money if you like, but if you do use it as money you have to pay me back $1100 of real money to cancel the debt, they are taking the planet over piece by piece and enslaving you all with debt and the desire to work when there are no jobs so silly jobs are created to keep up the circle of the workers funding the bankers :/
legendary
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

The numbers are from 2014, but i just found the numbers for 2015 from your treasury:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/483344/EU_finances_2015_final_web_09122015.pdf#page=18

its about ~23,3 million a day now -> 0,46 pound per day or 170 pound per year per brit.

(oh and btw. even if the 55 would be right - GB does not sent it: the thatcher rabate is calculated at source - there is no payback from the eu, GB just sends less or rather the other EU states pays for GB)

/edit

this is not all actually, there is even more money for GB in the form of direct subsidies for research and etc for the private sector which accumulates to more the 1 billion pound. (2013 was 1,4 billion pound)
sr. member
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UK should be in the schengen area so people that have schengen visa to be free to travel to UK too, i'm against uk quitting the EU

exactly the reason we need out, incompatible cultures are not welcome, why should we change our ways to suit newcomers, we shouldnt Sad
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bullets against your criminal mafia guberments who will attempt to rig the vote, 95% of anybody who is anybody wants out, you retarded ins are traitors to your country, and the fallen war victims who fought to keep england english, and for us not to become european, but yeah only a retard accepts the bullshit they are TOLD

Calm down. If more than 50% of the population votes against the BREXIT, then the United Kingdom stays in the European Union. There is no point in resorting to violence, if the majority of the population is against it. BTW... can anyone tell me who can vote in this referendum? Is it only for British citizens, or the EU immigrants residing in the UK are also allowed to cast their vote?

im passionate mate, a true englishman and my bellys on fire over all this Sad

i honestly dont know yet, would suspect only registered voters will be allowed to vote but there is chatter so we shall see on that 1
sr. member
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

Bullets on the 24th? Bullets against who? The EU?

But go and leave you freak, UK has never been good to anything but war.

bullets against your criminal mafia guberments who will attempt to rig the vote, 95% of anybody who is anybody wants out, you retarded ins are traitors to your country, and the fallen war victims who fought to keep england english, and for us not to become european, but yeah only a retard accepts the bullshit they are TOLD

If you vote out you'll be out...

WHy talking about a mafia government?

thats what they are, they are attempting to rule by force, and we are not standing for it

legendary
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UK should be in the schengen area so people that have schengen visa to be free to travel to UK too, i'm against uk quitting the EU
legendary
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bullets against your criminal mafia guberments who will attempt to rig the vote, 95% of anybody who is anybody wants out, you retarded ins are traitors to your country, and the fallen war victims who fought to keep england english, and for us not to become european, but yeah only a retard accepts the bullshit they are TOLD

Calm down. If more than 50% of the population votes against the BREXIT, then the United Kingdom stays in the European Union. There is no point in resorting to violence, if the majority of the population is against it. BTW... can anyone tell me who can vote in this referendum? Is it only for British citizens, or the EU immigrants residing in the UK are also allowed to cast their vote?
hero member
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

Bullets on the 24th? Bullets against who? The EU?

But go and leave you freak, UK has never been good to anything but war.

bullets against your criminal mafia guberments who will attempt to rig the vote, 95% of anybody who is anybody wants out, you retarded ins are traitors to your country, and the fallen war victims who fought to keep england english, and for us not to become european, but yeah only a retard accepts the bullshit they are TOLD

If you vote out you'll be out...

WHy talking about a mafia government?
legendary
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Soon, I have to go away.
People rely on the UK not just for goods but also for moral support as UK has extended it's help all across the globe throughout history. Now in the European Union it is the major country where others look up to, Britain's economy has long been established and to pull away from the Union will undoubtedly create unrest,disillusionment and a host of other problems.

Most moral support comes in the form of (Aid and Abet) whether it be arms or money.
Sending money to build a road or a bank does not feed people.
It's all about backhanded tricks.
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People rely on the UK not just for goods but also for moral support as UK has extended it's help all across the globe throughout history. Now in the European Union it is the major country where others look up to, Britain's economy has long been established and to pull away from the Union will undoubtedly create unrest,disillusionment and a host of other problems.
sr. member
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As you may know that UK will have a referendum about whether they will leave the European Union or not.
So I want to know your opinion regarding this issue, SPECIALLY who live in Europe or UK:

Are you with or against "the U.K. quits the European Union" ?
i am not the English, but i do not agree if the English decide to leave the EUropean Union, they will have some problems in various fields, political, economic and sports, of course, this will also limit the role of the UK's revitalized European Union.

screw the EU its a criminal mafia dictatorship, who will sink by vote or by force, either way, we never wanted any part of europe, just to trade but you give an inch n they take a mile, well now were taking back 10 mile as they have took the piss Tongue
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Well being a British citizen myself I am against the this, that UK might quit the European Union, why? Well Britain has long established itself as a backbone of the economy of many of its neighbor countries ie importing and exporting trades go back hundreds of years.

as long as were a part of the criminal eu they get to dictate our laws, your ancestors will be turning in their graves, they did not give up their lives for us to become european, if i was you i would seriously be questioning where my loyalties laid Sad

Yeah sure! Could you please give me one example of a law of UK that has been dictated by EU?

And your ancestors died for the Europeans to be free. Which means free to chose what they want to do.

all the legislations of the last 40 years, hows that for you?

and your ancestors died so we did not get taken over and become european, idiot!!!
sr. member
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

Bullets on the 24th? Bullets against who? The EU?

But go and leave you freak, UK has never been good to anything but war.

bullets against your criminal mafia guberments who will attempt to rig the vote, 95% of anybody who is anybody wants out, you retarded ins are traitors to your country, and the fallen war victims who fought to keep england english, and for us not to become european, but yeah only a retard accepts the bullshit they are TOLD
legendary
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Nice and dandy, this is the pro-EU propaganda what coming even from the water tap. Unfortunately it's very difficult (if not impossible) to find any unbiased opinion on the diplomatic and economic impact of Brexit. Anyway as I see on my workplace (IT company with mostly mid-class english people) the majority would support the exit.
sr. member
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

Bullets on the 24th? Bullets against who? The EU?

But go and leave you freak, UK has never been good to anything but war.

If the vote does not have people leaving it will mean that they have been brainwashed enough that no bullets will ever fly. Propaganda is more powerful than bullets.

Or that people actually see why EU is good for them...

The pros and cons of leaving the EU


Perhaps the greatest uncertainty associated with leaving the EU is that no country has ever done it before, so no one can predict the exact result. Nevertheless, many have tried.

Trade: One of the biggest advantages of the EU is free trade between member nations, making it easier and cheaper for British companies to export their goods to Europe. Some business leaders think the boost to income outweighs the billions of pounds in membership fees Britain would save if it left the EU. The UK also risks losing some of its negotiation power internationally by leaving the trading bloc, but it would be free to establish trade agreements with non-EU countries.

Ukip leader Nigel Farage believes Britain could follow the lead of Norway, which has access to the single market but is not bound by EU laws on areas such as agriculture, justice and home affairs. But others argue that an "amicable divorce" would not be possible. The Economist says Britain would still be subject to the politics and economics of Europe, but would no longer have a seat at the table to try to influence matters.

A study by the think-tank Open Europe, which wants to see the EU radically reformed, found that the worst-case "Brexit" scenario is that the UK economy loses 2.2 per cent of its total GDP by 2030. However, it says that GDP could rise by 1.6 per cent if the UK could negotiate a free trade deal with Europe and pursued "very ambitious deregulation".

Investment: The general view is that inward investment could slow in the lead up to the vote due to the uncertainty of the outcome and its consequences, following the precedent set ahead of the Scottish independence referendum in 2014. Longer term, there are diverging views: pro-Europeans reckon the UK's status as one of the world's biggest financial centres will come under threat if it is no longer seen as a gateway to the EU for the likes of US banks, while Brexit campaigners argue London's unique appeal will not be diminished.

Barclays has put forward a different view, which will be seen as positive by those advocating a vote to leave. It reckons the departure of one of the union's most powerful economies would hit its finances and also boost populist anti-EU movements in other countries, the Daily Telegraph says. This would open a "Pandora's box" that could lead to the "collapse of the European project".

In this event, the UK could be seen as a safe haven from those risks, attracting investors, boosting the pound and reducing the risk that Scotland would "leave the relative safety of the UK for an increasingly uncertain EU".

Jobs: Free movement of people across the EU opens up job opportunities for UK workers willing to travel and makes it relatively easy for UK companies to employ workers from other EU countries. Ukip says this prevents the UK "managing its own borders". But, writing for the LSE, Professor Adrian Favell says limiting this freedom would deter the "brightest and the best" of the continent from coming to Britain, create complex new immigration controls and reduce the pool of candidates employers can choose from.

Regulations: Eurosceptics argue that the vast majority of small and medium sized firms do not trade with the EU but are restricted by a huge regulatory burden imposed from abroad. However, others warn that millions of jobs could be lost if global manufacturers, such as car makers, move to lower-cost EU countries, while British farmers would lose billions in EU subsidies.

Influence: Britain may lose some of its military influence – many believe that America would consider Britain to be a less useful ally if it was detached from Europe.

On the plus side, The Economist says Britain would also be able to claim back its territorial fishing waters, scrap caps on limits to the number of hours people can work per week, free itself from the EU's renewable energy drive and create a freer economic market. This would turn London into a "freewheeling hub for emerging-market finance – a sort of Singapore on steroids", it says.

But it concludes that the most likely outcome is that Britain would find itself "as a scratchy outsider with somewhat limited access to the single market, almost no influence and few friends. And one certainty: that having once departed, it would be all but impossible to get back in again."

Security: Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith, who has come out in favour of Brexit, believes we are leaving the "door open" to terrorist attacks by remaining in the European Union. "This open border does not allow us to check and control people," he says.

However, a dozen senior military figures, including former chiefs of defence staff Lord Bramall and Jock Stirrup, say the opposite. In a letter released by No 10, they argue that the EU is an "increasingly important pillar of our security", especially at a time of instability in the Middle East and in the face of "resurgent Russian nationalism and aggression".

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon has also said the UK benefits from being part Europe, as well as Nato and the United Nations. "It is through the EU that you exchange criminal records and passenger records and work together on counter-terrorism," he said. "We need the collective weight of the EU when you are dealing with Russian aggression or terrorism."

In contrast, Colonel Richard Kemp, writing in The Times, says these "critical bilateral relationships" would persist regardless and that it is "absurd" to suggest the EU would put its own citizens, or the UK's, at greater risk by reducing cooperation in the event of Brexit. "By leaving, we will again be able to determine who does and does not enter the UK," says Kemp, a former head of the international terrorism team at the Cabinet Office. "Failure to do so significantly increases the terrorist threat here, endangers our people and is a betrayal of this country."

http://www.theweek.co.uk/eu-referendum
legendary
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After the thatcher rabate and the eu subsidies GB pays around 18 million pounds per day to the eu.

If we divide that through the 50 millions brits it makes ~0,36 pounds per day  or 131,4 pounds per year for every brit and this would place GB on place 8 of the 10 net contributors.

What a high price for a domestic market of ~340 million people and freedom of travel, living and working where you want.

The funny thing:

Of course GB can get out, but they would have to negotiate all treaties again and as net effect they would have a status like the scadinavian countries:
They are part of the EU just without power to say anything.

we pay 55 million per day to the criminal mafia eu, they give us back 27.5 million per day meaning they rob us of 27.5 million per day, where you getting your numbers from??

mark my words, WE ARE LEAVING BY VOTE ON THE 23rd OR BULLETS ON THE 24th Smiley

Bullets on the 24th? Bullets against who? The EU?

But go and leave you freak, UK has never been good to anything but war.

If the vote does not have people leaving it will mean that they have been brainwashed enough that no bullets will ever fly. Propaganda is more powerful than bullets.
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