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Topic: ARK - DPoS 🔹 ARK Protokol 🔹 MarketSquare 🔹 IPFS 🔹 Staking on Binance 🔹 - page 551. (Read 781327 times)
November 17, 2016, 12:18:35 AM
November 16, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
This concerns me as well! I really think you have something amazing here, I see no sense in scrapping the project if you're short 10% of the goal.
It would be a GIANT letdown for not only the community you've built, but the honesty and trust in bitcoin, altcoins and developers in general.
It would be a GIANT letdown for not only the community you've built, but the honesty and trust in bitcoin, altcoins and developers in general.
The project won't be scrapped it will be just the TEC that will be canceled and refunded. Not the same thing. There are other ways to gain funds. It would be a waste of money and time to do so (not just our own, but participants as well), but there are other ways.
But again, I think there is little to worry about, there is long way to go.
You say refund, but doesn't the TEC agreement say specifically that there will be no refunds?
https://ark.io/ARK-TEC-Agreement.pdf
2.1 Exchange. You agree to exchange, and we agree to sell, on the terms set
forth herein, your Resulting Distribution. Your exchanges paid with BTC, LSK
ShapeShift are final. We will not provide any refunds of the exchange price
under any circumstances.
Even under the circumstance that it's not 100% funded? If so you guys should probably update that agreement.
November 16, 2016, 08:23:26 PM
This concerns me as well! I really think you have something amazing here, I see no sense in scrapping the project if you're short 10% of the goal.
It would be a GIANT letdown for not only the community you've built, but the honesty and trust in bitcoin, altcoins and developers in general.
It would be a GIANT letdown for not only the community you've built, but the honesty and trust in bitcoin, altcoins and developers in general.
The project won't be scrapped it will be just the TEC that will be canceled and refunded. Not the same thing. There are other ways to gain funds. It would be a waste of money and time to do so (not just our own, but participants as well), but there are other ways.
But again, I think there is little to worry about, there is long way to go.
November 16, 2016, 07:55:12 PM
The funding is stagnant now, still 78% completed, maybe 2000 btc is a little hard to raise. One question, will you lower down 2000 btc threshold? I mean, if you will only raise 1600 btc, and ark failed to launch, what a apity, you know. You guys work hard but if ico can't start due to 2000 btc threshold, this will be a big disappointment for team members, signature campaigners.
Yeah it will be a very hard situation but we will not change the terms. Either we can reach this threshold or we cannot.
Hopefully our interview tomorrow helps out and we can get some more help from the community to bring in new supporters while the bonus is lower.
Plus we still have a lot of time until the end of the TEC. Anything can happen in the meantime
i invested. if your project is that good, why do you need 2000 btc or you will scrap the project?
this concerns me.
This concerns me as well, but I think that Ark will make the better decisions at the end of the day.
Concerns me as well, especially considering they ALSO get 15% of the ARK tokens...
November 16, 2016, 07:41:40 PM
The funding is stagnant now, still 78% completed, maybe 2000 btc is a little hard to raise. One question, will you lower down 2000 btc threshold? I mean, if you will only raise 1600 btc, and ark failed to launch, what a apity, you know. You guys work hard but if ico can't start due to 2000 btc threshold, this will be a big disappointment for team members, signature campaigners.
Yeah it will be a very hard situation but we will not change the terms. Either we can reach this threshold or we cannot.
Hopefully our interview tomorrow helps out and we can get some more help from the community to bring in new supporters while the bonus is lower.
Plus we still have a lot of time until the end of the TEC. Anything can happen in the meantime
i invested. if your project is that good, why do you need 2000 btc or you will scrap the project?
this concerns me.
This concerns me as well! I really think you have something amazing here, I see no sense in scrapping the project if you're short 10% of the goal.
It would be a GIANT letdown for not only the community you've built, but the honesty and trust in bitcoin, altcoins and developers in general.
November 16, 2016, 07:30:32 PM
Damn. I hope you guys can ignore the bullcrap. I really want to see this coin succeed!
I even was talking to my buddy who does stocks, he was looking into BTC and crypto and I was talking to him about ARK. He was super impressed and excited for when the coin hits the exchanges.
I really doubt someone would put this much work into an IPO for it to fail, but then again there are fucked people out there.
All we can do is wait. The only thing you can do is ignore the craptalk and stick to deadlines.
I even was talking to my buddy who does stocks, he was looking into BTC and crypto and I was talking to him about ARK. He was super impressed and excited for when the coin hits the exchanges.
I really doubt someone would put this much work into an IPO for it to fail, but then again there are fucked people out there.
All we can do is wait. The only thing you can do is ignore the craptalk and stick to deadlines.
November 16, 2016, 07:19:23 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
Ladies and gentlemen this clown is what Society refers to as a fucktard.
November 16, 2016, 07:15:06 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
Ladies and gentlemen this clown is what Society refers to as a fucktard.
November 16, 2016, 06:54:59 PM
so BTC is at fault , because king fiat is still feeding us all not a blame but well what you see is what you got
because someone with a lot of money is getting his - her % trading for fiat on the back of "believers"
because someone with a lot of money is getting his - her % trading for fiat on the back of "believers"
Werd
November 16, 2016, 06:32:02 PM
so BTC is at fault , because king fiat is still feeding us all not a blame but well what you see is what you got
because someone with a lot of money is getting his - her % trading for fiat on the back of "believers"
because someone with a lot of money is getting his - her % trading for fiat on the back of "believers"
November 16, 2016, 06:24:07 PM
LISK is tanking cause all alts are tanking due to BTC rising. It would probably tank even more if there was more on the market.
From the photo we can see that all altcoins price has crashed and it's not only LSK who has a bad moment, I think that it is good for investors now as they invest by buying lower exchange rate and then after ARK is ready for exchange they can get profit if bitcoin price is the same or lower than now.
November 16, 2016, 06:15:28 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
ooo, your a slow one , hey? let me explain:
i buy 50k LSK at 25k per coin. costs me 12.5BTC.i give that LSK to the TEC
the TEC is unsuccessful, i get my 50k LSK back, but now the market is at lets say, 18k.
my LSK is worth: 9BTC
12.5 - 9 = ? a LOSS
Do you get it now?
Lisk tanking is not their problem. As the buyer you have to assume some risks...
LISK is tanking cause all alts are tanking due to BTC rising. It would probably tank even more if there was more on the market.
I know right? There's 6 other coins on that image that are doing WORSE than lisk right now and a more current look shows 8.
November 16, 2016, 06:00:26 PM
Lisk tanking is not their problem. As the buyer you have to assume some risks...
Exactly. When someone puts money into a project they do it to make profit and there is no investment without risk.
You also can't calculate your future wins or losses based on the current price of Lisk. Even if there is a refund it will be a at least a months from now before you see that Lisk. Much can happen to the price until then. Not to mention you don't have to sell right away, and it's only becames a loss or a gain when you sell.
But I think all of this is academic. I understand that it is concern to see the percentage for the goal not simply stagnate but decrease. But this TEC is far from over, lots of time left, and we are not sitting still, there is a lot of things happening in the backround.
I have much more riding on this than most that reading this and I'm not losing sleep.
It's almost everyone best interest for this TEC to be successful. From a refund nobody benefits, while a launch with a low initial market cap has it's own opportunities from an investors point of view.
So sure, there is a chance of refund, but I think it's lower than some people here seem to think.
November 16, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
ooo, your a slow one , hey? let me explain:
i buy 50k LSK at 25k per coin. costs me 12.5BTC.i give that LSK to the TEC
the TEC is unsuccessful, i get my 50k LSK back, but now the market is at lets say, 18k.
my LSK is worth: 9BTC
12.5 - 9 = ? a LOSS
Do you get it now?
Lisk tanking is not their problem. As the buyer you have to assume some risks...
LISK is tanking cause all alts are tanking due to BTC rising. It would probably tank even more if there was more on the market.
November 16, 2016, 05:46:24 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
ooo, your a slow one , hey? let me explain:
i buy 50k LSK at 25k per coin. costs me 12.5BTC.i give that LSK to the TEC
the TEC is unsuccessful, i get my 50k LSK back, but now the market is at lets say, 18k.
my LSK is worth: 9BTC
12.5 - 9 = ? a LOSS
Do you get it now?
Lisk tanking is not their problem. As the buyer you have to assume some risks...
thts true, but i DO believe there could have been more transparency about this EXACT situation :/
but there's no denying it would have hurt the crowdsale if it was looming over it, i just feel a bit mislead i guess on this one
November 16, 2016, 05:42:19 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
ooo, your a slow one , hey? let me explain:
i buy 50k LSK at 25k per coin. costs me 12.5BTC.i give that LSK to the TEC
the TEC is unsuccessful, i get my 50k LSK back, but now the market is at lets say, 18k.
my LSK is worth: 9BTC
12.5 - 9 = ? a LOSS
Do you get it now?
Lisk tanking is not their problem. As the buyer you have to assume some risks...
November 16, 2016, 05:34:45 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
ooo, your a slow one , hey? let me explain:
i buy 50k LSK at 25k per coin. costs me 12.5BTC.i give that LSK to the TEC
the TEC is unsuccessful, i get my 50k LSK back, but now the market is at lets say, 18k.
my LSK is worth: 9BTC
12.5 - 9 = ? a LOSS
Do you get it now?
November 16, 2016, 05:16:36 PM
I think threshold will be met in due time. It was 78% till last day. Today it is 81%. finger crossed.
Now its 73%. finger crossed
agreed :/
currently a refund puts me down almost 2BTC with loss of lisk value, around xmas, with nothing to show for it at all :/
tell you what, learned my lesson... if this fails i wont touch it the next time you guys ask
wish you guys would have been more transparent about this situations possibility and what it would mean off the start of the ICO
but then again, you would not have gotten so much investment if it was clear.....
sad part is if you would have just asked for a bit less, it could have started, now your looking at destroying any chance of the community backing you in the future (some i bet will lose MORE than me if refunds happen)
smooth
If you get a refund that means you don't lose any coins, jackass. Oh wait, you mean because you can look now and see that the Lisk price is down and you would have sold all your lisk at a higher price? bullshit. hindsight is 20/20.
November 16, 2016, 05:05:30 PM
The threshold won't be met because of the insanely dumb bonus reward system. But don't worry, they will probably adjust the rules.
They can't just change that rule at this point. There is still a lot of time left for this to reach the minimum so relax and see how it goes. I do agree that Lisk bonus was not the best choice though.
November 16, 2016, 04:57:18 PM
I think its great you guys showing yourself on video!
Gives confidence to the market.
Gives confidence to the market.
thanks man, I think more will join in once they see the interview.
the only question is, how many shitcoins more do the coinmarket need?
asking the important questions, maybe 500-800 more
do we need a colored coins blockchain?
after this answer you are free of the other 799 or more...
uh oh the trolls are circling the wagon
they plan a token exchange. a revolution of innovation
haha must be stealing thunder from whatever shitcoin you're on right now. Don't compare us with the crapcoins that you have in your post history.
let' see the usual average replies around these types of ICO:
"haha another troll", "we are not X crapcoin", "go back to whatever X coin thread you came from"
Everyone should go read this thread, it explains the process of creating $100,000+ ICOs to scam newbies or the uneducated on crypto. Those of us that have been around long enough see s**** like this on a weekly basis. An insider on the process explained it.
Here it is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-make-a-100000-with-an-ico-1530158
sounds like you have fallen prey to many scams. Maybe you have bad judgement. Just saying.
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