Upthread you stated Bundy was receiving welfare, I challenged you to cite some proof.
Bundy is a 'welfare rancher.' This is
res ipsa loquitur.
And how many times have I explained upthread that the Feds have no constitutional rights to manage the state land, once a territory has been admitted to the union as a state.
And Bundy has said he will pay the grazing fees to Clark county.
And I've explained upthread that the ranchers (and to limited extent miners) are the only people that can make the
arid West productive.
You haven't explained shit. All you've done is repeatedly bloviated on some absurd belief that you and a handful of loons have got yourself believing.
No citizen who resides and makes productive some land which has no private owner is a welfare recipient by way of the right to use the land. This private productivity is the antithesis of welfare.
I've got a big yard. I spent a lot of time recently creating it by cutting all the brush and planting grass. I did this for reasons associated with fire protection. I've also left a certain number of trees. I've left them because I appreciate the appearance and the shade. Because this is
my land to manage as I see fit, I get to decide how I want things.
Sometimes I invite people to enjoy my property. It is entirely unwelcome that some uninvited bozo comes and cuts down the trees I did leave because they have some mistaken assumption that a lawn is always better.
Like it or not, a good portion of the NV land belongs to everyone. We hire the Federal government to managed. We hire them by voting and we pay them through taxes. Since I am part-owner, I don't get to micro-manage what they do. If they don't WANT watering holes on some small parts of the land, then it is a stupid argument that Cliven Bundy is doing anyone a favor by puting them there.
As I've said before, if Cliven Bundy wants to dig watering holes, he can do so on his own fucking property, and if he wants to dig more of them, he can go buy his own ass some more land with is own fucking money.
If Cliven Bundy is unsatisfied that the land he wants to buy is already owned by the Federal government (and thus, by me) he can run for office and work to change things.
You never did. Now you make claim that militia are beating the shit out of innocent people. Again I challenge to cite some proof.
I said 'can'. Try moving your lips if it help you read mo-betta.
I can say you could do the same. Or I could say the moon could collide with the earth. There are zillions of things anyone could assert 'can' occur. However you need some actual evidence and data supporting the likelihood of such assertions, otherwise all you are doing is employing FUD to try to make your Communist case.
It's either a story made up out of whole cloth, or a fact that the out-of-state militia anarchists are interfering with citizens rights to mobility and physically harassing them through a show of force on public property. I suspect it's true. This is flat out intimidation and it is one small step from physically assaulting them. From everything I can tell (from decades of interacting with people like you dating back to the usenet days), I would assume that a lot of these guys would believe that it is their right
and duty to intimidate people who don't believe what they believe. It is a certainty that a fair fraction of normal citizens of the community would be concerned about this. Thus, if they didn't feel free to express their opinions in a public meeting peppered with armed militia whackos from all over the country, it would be completely understandable and predictable.
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You are FUD machine trying to scare people away from their Constitutional rights. You've pretend to be for small government, but all your stated positions in this thread are big government and Communist.
As I've said before I am a second amendment proponent and would tend to favor smaller and more local government, especially compared to further expansion of the Federal government. My problem with loony-tunes fuckwads like you are that you are the biggest threat to my hopes in these regards.
What exactly do you propose that has ever worked in the history of mankind?
All I see you saying is to respect the fox that manages the hen house.
If you can't see
the fucking horrible shit coming to all of us if we don't stop these insane globalists, then your ignorance is the greatest threat to human kind.
Actually it is much too late to stop the coming Apocalypse. The only variable is as I stated...
That, and hundreds of statements before it, show in no uncertain terms that you are a nutcase.
See, when you participate in nutcase efforts, almost everyone around you is a nutcase as well. This leads ignorant jackasses like you to mis-judge ratios conclude that you have some sort of meaningful support. We can see this right here in this thread on this forum. I'm trying to do is my civic duty and try to educate you a little bit before you go off the deep end and make a lot of innocent people suffer.
I'm also a little sensitive that our foreign readers will think that a high percentage of Americans are whacked out lunatics. Because the U.S. can pretty much do anything to anyone and any time in any part of the world complements of our highly successful empire building efforts, I want them to realized that there are some sane people here. Of course I don't know if there are enough because even sane people are pretty lazy and detached. Indeed, most are...it's part of what constitutes sanity.