ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1067.

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Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 03:05:11 PM

Quote from: sveetsnelda on May 22, 2013, 02:51:49 PM

Quote from: g83 on May 22, 2013, 02:41:45 PM

My divs via Bitfunder always came thursday or friday, only last week on wednesday - i think this week will be the same and relax...

I don't think anybody is talking about this.

People are talking about direct shareholder dividends. Those are Wednesday, and it's taking some time to get them pushed through the blockchain (I'd wager it's because of the solo mined blocks needing confirmations).

So, it takes 100 blocks for coins to be considered valid according to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Confirmation (I always thought it was 120, apparently that is just a visual thing).

My satoshi payment was in block 237375, so at block 237475 it is safe to assume everything will be cleared up. We are at block 237404 at the time of writing this post.... 71 blocks to go (or less). Assume 6 blocks an hour... In less then 12 hours we will have the divs?

Does this sound right?

I would bet that this is the reason. Perhaps in the future, friedcat should withhold unconfirmed coins until the next week. It would be a bit less confusing and inconvenient for shareholders.

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Quote from: zefir on May 22, 2013, 03:09:18 PM

This happened to me some weeks ago: I sent 782 coins to pay an Avalon ASIC chip order over blockchaininfo wallet from an address that I collected BTC for a group buy before. I did not notice that one of the many inputs was not yet confirmed, so the whole payment did not make it into the blockchain (posted more details here).

That caused me lots of trouble, since when the payment finally went through, my order was cancelled due to the payment delay. And since there is no support from Avalon, I lost both my coins and the chips.

Not sure if this is a blockchaininfo wallet feature to process payments from unconfirmed inputs, at least I would have expected some warning.

Its really hard to see that avalon is giving zero support now. I mean i have a batch on hold since 4 days, the transaction has over 600 confirmations but nothing moves... and no one from avalon gets back to me... its putting pressure on me because its groupbuyers bitcoins mostly and im starting to get a bit angry now... i mean not giving support on products... might be... but no support at all... no chance to reach someone?

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Quote from: Super T on May 22, 2013, 03:24:53 PM

just give us the forking dividends!

https://blockchain.info/tx/9a6608efc8338d707f636594a6b547f849c12e002897e47a37bd5c8b6f994d80 - 148 BTC 2013-05-22 14:46:50
https://blockchain.info/tx/130a075194393462ad361a5191205cf35d27cd5206734b9315f1ba7d18473548 - 321 BTC 2013-05-22 14:46:39
https://blockchain.info/tx/43222fad233e04ef2db654bcec4609b9ca6203d832433112025f196a9cd9abb9 - 106 BTC 2013-05-22 14:47:04

...all still unconfirmed and all apparently Asicminer divis.

Could this be related to Solo Mining? Huh

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just give us the forking dividends!

https://blockchain.info/tx/9a6608efc8338d707f636594a6b547f849c12e002897e47a37bd5c8b6f994d80 - 148 BTC 2013-05-22 14:46:50
https://blockchain.info/tx/130a075194393462ad361a5191205cf35d27cd5206734b9315f1ba7d18473548 - 321 BTC 2013-05-22 14:46:39
https://blockchain.info/tx/43222fad233e04ef2db654bcec4609b9ca6203d832433112025f196a9cd9abb9 - 106 BTC 2013-05-22 14:47:04

...all still unconfirmed and all apparently Asicminer divis.

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If you have large bytesize of transaction and with no fee or small fee, it will take couple of hours to get confirm.

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This happened to me some weeks ago: I sent 782 coins to pay an Avalon ASIC chip order over blockchaininfo wallet from an address that I collected BTC for a group buy before. I did not notice that one of the many inputs was not yet confirmed, so the whole payment did not make it into the blockchain (posted more details here).

That caused me lots of trouble, since when the payment finally went through, my order was cancelled due to the payment delay. And since there is no support from Avalon, I lost both my coins and the chips.

Not sure if this is a blockchaininfo wallet feature to process payments from unconfirmed inputs, at least I would have expected some warning.

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Quote from: sveetsnelda on May 22, 2013, 02:51:49 PM

Quote from: g83 on May 22, 2013, 02:41:45 PM

My divs via Bitfunder always came thursday or friday, only last week on wednesday - i think this week will be the same and relax...

I don't think anybody is talking about this.

People are talking about direct shareholder dividends. Those are Wednesday, and it's taking some time to get them pushed through the blockchain (I'd wager it's because of the solo mined blocks needing confirmations).

So, it takes 100 blocks for coins to be considered valid according to https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Confirmation (I always thought it was 120, apparently that is just a visual thing).

My satoshi payment was in block 237375, so at block 237475 it is safe to assume everything will be cleared up. We are at block 237404 at the time of writing this post.... 71 blocks to go (or less). Assume 6 blocks an hour... In less then 12 hours we will have the divs?

Does this sound right?

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Quote from: g83 on May 22, 2013, 02:41:45 PM

My divs via Bitfunder always came thursday or friday, only last week on wednesday - i think this week will be the same and relax...

I don't think anybody is talking about this.

People are talking about direct shareholder dividends. Those are Wednesday, and it's taking some time to get them pushed through the blockchain (I'd wager it's because of the solo mined blocks needing confirmations).

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My divs via Bitfunder always came thursday or friday, only last week on wednesday - i think this week will be the same and relax...

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Quote from: Caesium on May 22, 2013, 01:25:39 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on May 22, 2013, 01:23:53 PM

so im wondering if friedcat is using blockchain.info wallet

Are you actually serious?

There are others you wont think that they use onlinewallets... and i didnt hear that friedcat stated what he uses... plus, especially blockchain.info is long enough in the game that they should find possible threats and solved it...

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Quote from: GIANNAT on May 22, 2013, 02:15:47 PM

Quote from: ning on May 22, 2013, 02:08:52 PM

Some observations of [email protected]:

May 20, 2013: Outstanding 15,416 / 400,000 Issued;
May 21, 2013: Outstanding 16,618 / 400,000 Issued;
May 22, 2013: Outstanding 17,411 / 400,000 Issued.

What's your interpretation?

People are trasferring shares into the PT?

I think direct shares should be equivalent to the PTs.

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Seems like the mining revenue for ASICMINER is going to 1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i: https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i

At least the coinbase transactions in their solo-mined blocks, and some transactions that appear to come from pools. Total received at this address: 50433 BTC Cool

Edit: Relax about the unconfirmed transactions, guys, seems the network is low on luck today (~1 hr since last block at the moment).

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my adress is also part of those that didnt get confirm yet,
in QT client i see the satoshi transaction and it has been confirmed a long time already,
but the div transaction doesnt show up in QT,
when i search for my adress in blockchain i see it along with the div transaction, unconfirmed,
but my qt client didnt pick it up yet.

i think just matter of time will solve it, and if this transaction didnt go through, then the coins will still be at the original adress, and will just be resent. no big deal just wait a day or less and it should clear up,
thats my 2 satoshis

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Quote from: ning on May 22, 2013, 02:08:52 PM

Some observations of [email protected]:

May 20, 2013: Outstanding 15,416 / 400,000 Issued;
May 21, 2013: Outstanding 16,618 / 400,000 Issued;
May 22, 2013: Outstanding 17,411 / 400,000 Issued.

What's your interpretation?

People are trasferring shares into the PT?

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Quote from: arklan on May 22, 2013, 02:09:16 PM

Quote from: bobboooiie on May 22, 2013, 02:07:49 PM

Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 02:04:07 PM

Quote from: kokojie on May 22, 2013, 01:59:46 PM

Quote from: arklan on May 22, 2013, 01:55:57 PM

just chiming in - no div here either. i'm in that same transaction.

He never got it back from glbse? I thought glbse gave most people majority of their money back.

What? Did you even read the last 3 pages of posts? There is a hangup with the outputs from one transaction being an input for the next and some transactions not getting confirmations causing dividends for this weeks payout to be messed up. Not a damn thing about GLBSE has been said.

You should chill out dude... Dont worry your dividents for 3 shares will come soon dont sweat it. Stop spamming this forums so stupidly

no need to be rude. we're all so used to this whole div thing going smoothly, when it doesn't it's a little freaky.

Precisely... my "3 shares" is actually 240... so I would like my money so I can pay off some bills. I did make a mistake, although when you do not quote a post, I believe it is safe to assume you are replying to the previous post. But alas, yes I was wrong.

On the topic at hand. Are we sure this issue will solve itself? Or does some action need to be taken by someone. I only half understand what happened.

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Quote from: bobboooiie on May 22, 2013, 02:07:49 PM

Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 02:04:07 PM

Quote from: kokojie on May 22, 2013, 01:59:46 PM

Quote from: arklan on May 22, 2013, 01:55:57 PM

just chiming in - no div here either. i'm in that same transaction.

He never got it back from glbse? I thought glbse gave most people majority of their money back.

What? Did you even read the last 3 pages of posts? There is a hangup with the outputs from one transaction being an input for the next and some transactions not getting confirmations causing dividends for this weeks payout to be messed up. Not a damn thing about GLBSE has been said.

You should chill out dude... Dont worry your dividents for 3 shares will come soon dont sweat it. Stop spamming this forums so stupidly

no need to be rude. we're all so used to this whole div thing going smoothly, when it doesn't it's a little freaky.

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Some observations of [email protected]:

May 20, 2013: Outstanding 15,416 / 400,000 Issued;
May 21, 2013: Outstanding 16,618 / 400,000 Issued;
May 22, 2013: Outstanding 17,411 / 400,000 Issued.

What's your interpretation?

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Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 02:04:07 PM

Quote from: kokojie on May 22, 2013, 01:59:46 PM

Quote from: arklan on May 22, 2013, 01:55:57 PM

just chiming in - no div here either. i'm in that same transaction.

He never got it back from glbse? I thought glbse gave most people majority of their money back.

What? Did you even read the last 3 pages of posts? There is a hangup with the outputs from one transaction being an input for the next and some transactions not getting confirmations causing dividends for this weeks payout to be messed up. Not a damn thing about GLBSE has been said.

You should chill out dude... Dont worry your dividents for 3 shares will come soon dont sweat it. Stop spamming this forums so stupidly

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Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 02:04:07 PM

Not a damn thing about GLBSE has been said.

he was replying to this post:

Quote from: rdponticelli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:36 PM

I would love to lol too, but I remember that not so long ago friedcat left 1k+ btc on glbse... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: kokojie on May 22, 2013, 01:59:46 PM

Quote from: arklan on May 22, 2013, 01:55:57 PM

just chiming in - no div here either. i'm in that same transaction.

He never got it back from glbse? I thought glbse gave most people majority of their money back.

What? Did you even read the last 3 pages of posts? There is a hangup with the outputs from one transaction being an input for the next and some transactions not getting confirmations causing dividends for this weeks payout to be messed up. Not a damn thing about GLBSE has been said.

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