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Quote from: astrolabe on May 22, 2013, 11:39:29 AM

The last unblocked transaction in the chain has 15 confirmations. https://blockchain.info/tx/618364652674551068cff5ce6a9b3889a6836c662c0f28c69c015e12ec6b6a6e

Is it out of the question that blockchain info has a bug?

The next transaction in the chain is this one: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/74252194

One of the inputs to that transaction is https://blockchain.info/tx-index/74245888/0 which is still unconfirmed.

Quote from: vortex1878 on May 22, 2013, 11:58:04 AM

Quote from: vortex1878 on May 22, 2013, 11:21:48 AM

Could this have to do with the bug in bitcoind that caused invalid blocks being generated?

I believe there was a fix for that only yesterday. And maybe ASICMiner have not yet applied that bugfix.

Could somebody who is not a n00b like me please answer my question?

I don't see anything to suggest that this is a problem with invalid blocks, it's just a matter of unconfirmed transactions being used as inputs for other transactions.

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Quote from: vortex1878 on May 22, 2013, 11:21:48 AM

Could this have to do with the bug in bitcoind that caused invalid blocks being generated?

I believe there was a fix for that only yesterday. And maybe ASICMiner have not yet applied that bugfix.

Could somebody who is not a n00b like me please answer my question?

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Quote from: GuiltySpark343 on May 22, 2013, 11:32:14 AM

Quote from: TheSwede75 on May 22, 2013, 11:26:40 AM

Show me a conventional mutual fund with dividends equal to Asicminer and I will give you a back rub with a happy ending!

That was never the issue. The issue is facts. I'm merely correcting his statement that not all mutual funds manage billions in assets.

Some mutual funds charge a front-load, transaction fees, or 12b-1 fees. But not all. If you have a brokerage account, you can always take advantage of no-load, no-fee funds. So I'm not sure vortex1878's point reflects "most" funds.

Past and current returns from AM have been stellar. Whether future returns are as good (or better) is pure speculation, or at best an educated guess, just like on Wall Street.

Whether 5% management fee is too much, too little, or just right, is ultimately for the individual investor or the market to decide.

I agree on your point regarding a brokerage account. But I believe buying a TAT 1/100 PT on bitfunder etc. can be more compared to buying a fund in an ordinary custody account, and there you normally pay 5% issue surcharge.

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Quote from: GuiltySpark343 on May 22, 2013, 11:32:14 AM

Quote from: TheSwede75 on May 22, 2013, 11:26:40 AM

Show me a conventional mutual fund with dividends equal to Asicminer and I will give you a back rub with a happy ending!

That was never the issue. The issue is facts. I'm merely correcting his statement that not all mutual funds manage billions in assets.

Some mutual funds charge a front-load, transaction fees, or 12b-1 fees. But not all. If you have a brokerage account, you can always take advantage of no-load, no-fee funds. So I'm not sure vortex1878's point reflects "most" funds.

Past and current returns from AM have been stellar. Whether future returns are as good (or better) is pure speculation, or at best an educated guess, just like on Wall Street.

Whether 5% management fee is too much, too little, or just right, is ultimately for the individual investor or the market to decide.

But this discussion is on TAT micro shares, correct, and the management fee is 5% only on the dividends, so the management fee of other funds that charge on total assets under management are not comparable. Also, if you don't wish to pay the 5% fee on dividends, don't buy the TAT vehicle, just that simple, everyone can make their own intelligent choice, but the discussion doesn't belong in this thread, one of the TAT threads would be a more appropriate place.

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The last unblocked transaction in the chain has 15 confirmations. https://blockchain.info/tx/618364652674551068cff5ce6a9b3889a6836c662c0f28c69c015e12ec6b6a6e

Is it out of the question that blockchain info has a bug?

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Quote from: GuiltySpark343 on May 22, 2013, 11:32:14 AM

Quote from: TheSwede75 on May 22, 2013, 11:26:40 AM

Show me a conventional mutual fund with dividends equal to Asicminer and I will give you a back rub with a happy ending!

That was never the issue. The issue is facts. I'm merely correcting the fact that not all mutual funds manage billions in assets.

Point taken.

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Quote from: TheSwede75 on May 22, 2013, 11:26:40 AM

Show me a conventional mutual fund with dividends equal to Asicminer and I will give you a back rub with a happy ending!

That was never the issue. The issue is facts. I'm merely correcting his statement that not all mutual funds manage billions in assets.

Some mutual funds charge a front-load, transaction fees, or 12b-1 fees. But not all. If you have a brokerage account, you can always take advantage of no-load, no-fee funds. So I'm not sure vortex1878's point reflects "most" funds.

Past and current returns from AM have been stellar. Whether future returns are as good (or better) is pure speculation, or at best an educated guess, just like on Wall Street.

Whether 5% management fee is too much, too little, or just right, is ultimately for the individual investor or the market to decide.

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Quote from: GuiltySpark343 on May 22, 2013, 11:24:10 AM

Quote from: conv3rsion on May 21, 2013, 10:24:58 PM

a conventional mutual fund manages billions are dollars worth of assets.

Take a look:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bestfunds/index.html

Some of the top funds holding billions in assets have a fee of <1%. Other top funds (mid-cap) hold far less than "billions" ... more like in the 100s of millions.

True. But you forget here that most funds have an issue surcharge of 5% that you pay when you buy them.

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Quote from: GuiltySpark343 on May 22, 2013, 11:24:10 AM

Quote from: conv3rsion on May 21, 2013, 10:24:58 PM

a conventional mutual fund manages billions are dollars worth of assets.

Take a look:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bestfunds/index.html

Some of the top funds holding billions in assets have a fee of <1%. Other top funds (mid-cap) hold far less than "billions" ... more like in the 100s of millions.

Show me a conventional mutual fund with dividends equal to Asicminer and I will give you a back rub with a happy ending!

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The transactions are fine, there's just a huge chain of unconfirmed transactions (input for one transaction is the change output from the previous transaction) so it'll take some time for everything to be included in a block.

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Quote from: conv3rsion on May 21, 2013, 10:24:58 PM

a conventional mutual fund manages billions are dollars worth of assets.

Take a look:

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bestfunds/index.html

Some of the top funds holding billions in assets have a fee of <1%. Other top funds (mid-cap) hold far less than "billions" ... more like in the 100s of millions.

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Could this have to do with the bug in bitcoind that caused invalid blocks being generated?

I believe there was a fix for that only yesterday. And maybe ASICMiner have not yet applied that bugfix.

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no worry the coins are so fresh that they are not getting proper broadcasted. It happened to me before on AM dividend. They should show up within 24hr.

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My question is... why did my client not accept the transaction broadcast? What went wrong?

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Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 11:12:32 AM

Your address is grayed out because you are probably currently on the page for that address, and not the page for that transaction. I freaked out a bit at the same thing.

Ah, yes – thanks for that hint!

Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 11:12:32 AM

Is your div payment by chance in this transaction? Maybe this one payment got messed up some how... https://blockchain.info/tx/130a075194393462ad361a5191205cf35d27cd5206734b9315f1ba7d18473548

Exactly this transaction. I guess we just have to wait, it will confirm eventually.

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Quote from: maxmint on May 22, 2013, 11:08:09 AM

Same here, I also got my Satoshis, but no divs. Also, blockchain.info shows my address as "greyed out", it's not clickable.
Strange.

I almost did a facepalm Wink

Your address is grayed out, because making a link to the site you are currently watching is kind of pointless, isn't it?

Try it for yourself and click on any other address. When on that site, that address will be grayed out, and yours will be clickable..... magic Cheesy

Edit: aahzmundus was faster Cry

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Quote from: maxmint on May 22, 2013, 11:08:09 AM

Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 11:01:56 AM

Strange... the satoshi payment is showing up in my client, but not the div payment. Here I was waiting to post what the dividend was like I have been doing the last three weeks... come to find out you folk already know. Go onto blockchain.info and sure enough, there is a transaction to my address... but it is still not showing up in my Bitcoin-QT client. Did a rescan... still nothing. What am I doing wrong here... Was there something strange about this transaction?

Same here, I also got my Satoshis, but no divs. Also, blockchain.info shows my address as "greyed out", it's not clickable.
Strange.

Your address is grayed out because you are probably currently on the page for that address, and not the page for that transaction. I freaked out a bit at the same thing.

Is your div payment by chance in this transaction? Maybe this one payment got messed up some how... https://blockchain.info/tx/130a075194393462ad361a5191205cf35d27cd5206734b9315f1ba7d18473548

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Quote from: maxmint on May 22, 2013, 11:08:09 AM

Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 11:01:56 AM

Strange... the satoshi payment is showing up in my client, but not the div payment. Here I was waiting to post what the dividend was like I have been doing the last three weeks... come to find out you folk already know. Go onto blockchain.info and sure enough, there is a transaction to my address... but it is still not showing up in my Bitcoin-QT client. Did a rescan... still nothing. What am I doing wrong here... Was there something strange about this transaction?

Same here, I also got my Satoshis, but no divs. Also, blockchain.info shows my address as "greyed out", it's not clickable.
Strange.

I have the same

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Quote from: aahzmundus on May 22, 2013, 11:01:56 AM

Strange... the satoshi payment is showing up in my client, but not the div payment. Here I was waiting to post what the dividend was like I have been doing the last three weeks... come to find out you folk already know. Go onto blockchain.info and sure enough, there is a transaction to my address... but it is still not showing up in my Bitcoin-QT client. Did a rescan... still nothing. What am I doing wrong here... Was there something strange about this transaction?

Same. I think we just need confirmations.

This tx seems to be unconfirmed still:

https://blockchain.info/tx/4203ca137f921e3a39d5bdd903caed94e0066e51ac6b8d5636e4726fa2e8cd3e

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