people selling while they can.
Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1177. (Read 3917058 times)
looks like share price is dropping back down...
people selling while they can.
people selling while they can.
The bigger ASICMiner gets the less variance it will have in earnings, therefore the less value being part of a pool provides, other than in terms of making the true production rate visible.
There is only one statistic that truly matters above all else and that is share of global hashrate. It doesn't matter what the actual difficulty level is provided that pool share can be maintained. That should be a big factor in how they decide between selling/operating any units that are produced.
That's true. Actually, when AM deploys rest of batch 1, it's gonna be bigger than any pool except BTC Guild. So... what variance? It's gonna have smaller variance than pools!
The bigger ASICMiner gets the less variance it will have in earnings, therefore the less value being part of a pool provides, other than in terms of making the true production rate visible.
There is only one statistic that truly matters above all else and that is share of global hashrate. It doesn't matter what the actual difficulty level is provided that pool share can be maintained. That should be a big factor in how they decide between selling/operating any units that are produced.
How did you come up with 5% Fees?
1. It's 3% Fees
2. TX-Fees are payed out
3. Very realiable mining possible
So do your math again please.
1. It's 3% Fees
2. TX-Fees are payed out
3. Very realiable mining possible
So do your math again please.
You are correct we are not on PPS! I appreciate you warned me about this.
I know we are supporting one of the most reliable pools, but as the thing gets big and big, solo mining sounds good too, , and with this hashrate variance sould not be a problem and imagine all the good luck we can get, at least a better deal regarding fees, like others said above.
People just want to do business with AM. I think its a good thing.
I was just wondering if someone could explain why the price of the ASICs is so high.
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Avalons sold cheaper but later they sold for a multiple of that price on ebay. So avalon lost income. Asicminer doesnt want this so they auction it from the start.
I was just wondering if someone could explain why the price of the ASICs is so high.
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
People are sick of waiting for their ASICS and having BFL stringing them along for so long. People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
I was just wondering if someone could explain why the price of the ASICs is so high.
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
Having the very first and legendary ASICs as trophy is the key to understanding
And this trophy is unique in the way that it will most likely pay for itself.
I was just wondering if someone could explain why the price of the ASICs is so high.
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
People are sick of waiting for their ASICS and having BFL stringing them along for so long.
I was just wondering if someone could explain why the price of the ASICs is so high.
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
People are paying the same price as an avalon batch 3 for something that's only 1/6 of the power.
Also apparently BFL jalapenos will be shipping in the next couple of weeks which have half the hashing power but cost like 20-30x less.
Is it just that ASICMiner are the only company with Asics ready to go now (Avalon having sold out and BFL doing their usual).
Don't get me wrong, i'm only too pleased people are paying so much for the asics, the price of my ASICminer-PT stock has shot up. I'm just curious as to why
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Would it be a win-win for BTC Guild to share their code and and other details with ASICMINER to set up something as reliable for AM use? With the slight modification that any guest can publicly see the hashrate from the miners (All AM in this case) -- this preserves the need for transparency, and relieves the pressure that BTC Guild is feeling when it is approaching 50% of total hashing power.
For craps sake... Just threaten btcguild with leaving unless they charge less. Not rocket science.
I am also amazed a company can design an asic but cannot setup a pool to mine at and even let others join for lower variance.
well this only confirms that the told hashrate by friedcat operator and what is shown on btcguild is the same... the told hash can be anything we choose to believe cause we trust him. asicminer own pool would be fantastic or reduction in fees.
not that im not satisfied with dividends, but isnt 5% in fees more or less like btcguild owning 20.000 shares ?
How did you come up with 5% Fees?
1. It's 3% Fees
2. TX-Fees are payed out
3. Very realiable mining possible
So do your math again please.
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Would it be a win-win for BTC Guild to share their code and and other details with ASICMINER to set up something as reliable for AM use? With the slight modification that any guest can publicly see the hashrate from the miners (All AM in this case) -- this preserves the need for transparency, and relieves the pressure that BTC Guild is feeling when it is approaching 50% of total hashing power.
For craps sake... Just threaten btcguild with leaving unless they charge less. Not rocket science.
I am also amazed a company can design an asic but cannot setup a pool to mine at and even let others join for lower variance.
well this only confirms that the told hashrate by friedcat operator and what is shown on btcguild is the same... the told hash can be anything we choose to believe cause we trust him. asicminer own pool would be fantastic or reduction in fees.
not that im not satisfied with dividends, but isnt 5% in fees more or less like btcguild owning 20.000 shares ?
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Would it be a win-win for BTC Guild to share their code and and other details with ASICMINER to set up something as reliable for AM use? With the slight modification that any guest can publicly see the hashrate from the miners (All AM in this case) -- this preserves the need for transparency, and relieves the pressure that BTC Guild is feeling when it is approaching 50% of total hashing power.
For craps sake... Just threaten btcguild with leaving unless they charge less. Not rocket science.
I am also amazed a company can design an asic but cannot setup a pool to mine at and even let others join for lower variance.
So u trust him enough to send ur btc but not to be honest enough to pay out proper divs?
And dont you mean deflate hash rate and skim from the top?
Anyway, you guys are losing min 3% which has added up to an amazing sum now. No reason for it. Tell btcguild 1% max or u leave.
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Would it be a win-win for BTC Guild to share their code and and other details with ASICMINER to set up something as reliable for AM use? With the slight modification that any guest can publicly see the hashrate from the miners (All AM in this case) -- this preserves the need for transparency, and relieves the pressure that BTC Guild is feeling when it is approaching 50% of total hashing power.
For craps sake... Just threaten btcguild with leaving unless they charge less. Not rocket science.
I am also amazed a company can design an asic but cannot setup a pool to mine at and even let others join for lower variance.
So u trust him enough to send ur btc but not to be honest enough to pay out proper divs?
And dont you mean deflate hash rate and skim from the top?
Anyway, you guys are losing min 3% which has added up to an amazing sum now. No reason for it. Tell btcguild 1% max or u leave.
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Would it be a win-win for BTC Guild to share their code and and other details with ASICMINER to set up something as reliable for AM use? With the slight modification that any guest can publicly see the hashrate from the miners (All AM in this case) -- this preserves the need for transparency, and relieves the pressure that BTC Guild is feeling when it is approaching 50% of total hashing power.
For craps sake... Just threaten btcguild with leaving unless they charge less. Not rocket science.
I am also amazed a company can design an asic but cannot setup a pool to mine at and even let others join for lower variance.
Current auction price total: BTC625. The auction still has a day to go, although it is slowing.
If we assume the cost of the units construction is paid for, and ignore shipping, this sale of 100GHash/sec will provide mBTC1.5625 per share.
BTC625 for 100GH/s is BTC6.25 / GH/sec
I'm still of the opinion that the income from hardware sales plus the income from mining/future deployments means the current price in the order of BTC1.25/share is a pretty good deal for anyone who wants to invest their bitcoins in mining but doesn't want to go all out and buy a multi-thousand USD/multi-tens of bitcoin mining unit.
If we assume the cost of the units construction is paid for, and ignore shipping, this sale of 100GHash/sec will provide mBTC1.5625 per share.
BTC625 for 100GH/s is BTC6.25 / GH/sec
I'm still of the opinion that the income from hardware sales plus the income from mining/future deployments means the current price in the order of BTC1.25/share is a pretty good deal for anyone who wants to invest their bitcoins in mining but doesn't want to go all out and buy a multi-thousand USD/multi-tens of bitcoin mining unit.
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Would it be a win-win for BTC Guild to share their code and and other details with ASICMINER to set up something as reliable for AM use? With the slight modification that any guest can publicly see the hashrate from the miners (All AM in this case) -- this preserves the need for transparency, and relieves the pressure that BTC Guild is feeling when it is approaching 50% of total hashing power.
For craps sake... Just threaten btcguild with leaving unless they charge less. Not rocket science.
I am also amazed a company can design an asic but cannot setup a pool to mine at and even let others join for lower variance.
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Would it be a win-win for BTC Guild to share their code and and other details with ASICMINER to set up something as reliable for AM use? With the slight modification that any guest can publicly see the hashrate from the miners (All AM in this case) -- this preserves the need for transparency, and relieves the pressure that BTC Guild is feeling when it is approaching 50% of total hashing power.
Can anyone answer why we don't solo mine?
I dont have read a reason for that either except of variance. The chance of finding a block is higher with a pool with more hashing power. Though i dont know why it should be so much better to pay a fee. I cant imagine that variance gives 3 or more percent that the poolfees takes away.
Variance is one answer. Accountability to shareholders is another - it's easier for shareholders to estimate the earnings if the stats are on a public pool.
ASICMINER could mine on a public p2pool instance...
AM has an obligation to shareholders to maximize profits by mining at whichever pool is the fastest and most reliable. Right now, that's BTC Guild.
AM has only begun their roll-out/ramp-up process. They need to use Guild as a benchmark for testing and optimization, before introducing more variables into the equation.
AM should not lose focus and drift away from their core competencies by messing about with P2Pool or homegrown solutions. Look at CoinLab to see why...
Can anyone answer why we don't solo mine?
I dont have read a reason for that either except of variance. The chance of finding a block is higher with a pool with more hashing power. Though i dont know why it should be so much better to pay a fee. I cant imagine that variance gives 3 or more percent that the poolfees takes away.
Variance is one answer. Accountability to shareholders is another - it's easier for shareholders to estimate the earnings if the stats are on a public pool.
ASICMINER could mine on a public p2pool instance...
... and that's not solomining.
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