Lost about $55,000 USD in this fiasco. I'm still stunned FC robbed all the shareholders when he had a decent chip ready to self-mine back to profitability and he takes a runner? WTF?
What about this other David Fan guy that "took-over" asicminer, not a peep from him in this forum? Ugh.
Why do AMHASH people get crumbs and asicminer shareholders get total silence + zero btc when asicminer has/had? fat wallets filled with BTC?
I trusted FC, that's what hurts the most.
Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 22. (Read 3917058 times)
April 24, 2015, 11:29:33 AM
April 23, 2015, 06:03:50 PM
well I'm guessing that the AMhash buyout deal has nothing to do with FC or AM directly. Most likely Rockminer trying to squeeze out and/or havelock covering their ass.
I expect this to go the way of every other fail bitcoin security. They vanish and every bagholder gets nothing. At least activeminer has the sec on their ass and is ordered to pay all sorts of fines and their case is moving up to the federal level. And apparently the labcoin crooks have the italian police investigating their case. If you cant get any money back, at least making the crooks fry is some sort of relief...
and i would like to see this thread remain open. Good place to vent, watch trolls argue with each other, and serve as a general example of just how worthless all btc securities turn out to be, no matter how great they may look at first.
I expect this to go the way of every other fail bitcoin security. They vanish and every bagholder gets nothing. At least activeminer has the sec on their ass and is ordered to pay all sorts of fines and their case is moving up to the federal level. And apparently the labcoin crooks have the italian police investigating their case. If you cant get any money back, at least making the crooks fry is some sort of relief...
and i would like to see this thread remain open. Good place to vent, watch trolls argue with each other, and serve as a general example of just how worthless all btc securities turn out to be, no matter how great they may look at first.
April 23, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
Guess I should change my sig then...
April 23, 2015, 03:17:59 PM
I'm just surprised all the AM1 bag holders are so silent. AM hash is a big fail, but AM1s mess is the whole reason behind it. Have the bagholders all simply rolled over and accepted defeat? As far as I can tell FC owes AM1 bagholders everything in his wallet. Or does everyone think they can climb out of their hole? (They can't)
What is there to be said? Choosing to not publicly lament over that which we cannot change does not seem like a character flaw to me.
There really isn't anything more to say. FC is gone. The BE300 chip isn't going to be made. AM has stopped replying to emails. AMHash1 is gone. The prisma refunds are non-existent.
AM is done.
I mean even the Activemining thread is still open, I don't really see any reason to close the thread. Sure, the chances of AM still succeeding in continuing operations are next to zero, but not completely zero. This is how speculating with securities goes...
April 23, 2015, 02:58:50 PM
I'm just surprised all the AM1 bag holders are so silent. AM hash is a big fail, but AM1s mess is the whole reason behind it. Have the bagholders all simply rolled over and accepted defeat? As far as I can tell FC owes AM1 bagholders everything in his wallet. Or does everyone think they can climb out of their hole? (They can't)
What is there to be said? Choosing to not publicly lament over that which we cannot change does not seem like a character flaw to me.
There really isn't anything more to say. FC is gone. The BE300 chip isn't going to be made. AM has stopped replying to emails. AMHash1 is gone. The prisma refunds are non-existent.
AM is done.
Yep. Perhaps a mod can close out this thread and lock it.
I vote to leave it open -- Havelock will need someplace to announce it's de-listing, and this will keep all the crying in one clean place.... At minmum it will keep Airwolf from a reason to open a dozen new threads
April 23, 2015, 12:27:15 PM
I'm just surprised all the AM1 bag holders are so silent. AM hash is a big fail, but AM1s mess is the whole reason behind it. Have the bagholders all simply rolled over and accepted defeat? As far as I can tell FC owes AM1 bagholders everything in his wallet. Or does everyone think they can climb out of their hole? (They can't)
What is there to be said? Choosing to not publicly lament over that which we cannot change does not seem like a character flaw to me.
There really isn't anything more to say. FC is gone. The BE300 chip isn't going to be made. AM has stopped replying to emails. AMHash1 is gone. The prisma refunds are non-existent.
AM is done.
Yep. Perhaps a mod can close out this thread and lock it.
April 23, 2015, 11:41:03 AM
I'm just surprised all the AM1 bag holders are so silent. AM hash is a big fail, but AM1s mess is the whole reason behind it. Have the bagholders all simply rolled over and accepted defeat? As far as I can tell FC owes AM1 bagholders everything in his wallet. Or does everyone think they can climb out of their hole? (They can't)
What is there to be said? Choosing to not publicly lament over that which we cannot change does not seem like a character flaw to me.
There really isn't anything more to say. FC is gone. The BE300 chip isn't going to be made. AM has stopped replying to emails. AMHash1 is gone. The prisma refunds are non-existent.
AM is done.
April 23, 2015, 04:20:07 AM
I'm just surprised all the AM1 bag holders are so silent. AM hash is a big fail, but AM1s mess is the whole reason behind it. Have the bagholders all simply rolled over and accepted defeat? As far as I can tell FC owes AM1 bagholders everything in his wallet. Or does everyone think they can climb out of their hole? (They can't)
Well, some big serious investors maybe after them on many levels.., but they don't care to write here anything so we don't know. And we ourselves are just small fishes taking lessons on how to judge where to invest and where not to.
On the contrary, since AM as a company is done, the shares of a defunct company are worthless anyway, but the obligations to creditors should still hold, so it's the AMHash owners that should be taken care of
Not that AM would care about any of those, but, you know, just sayin..
April 22, 2015, 10:32:50 PM
I'm just surprised all the AM1 bag holders are so silent. AM hash is a big fail, but AM1s mess is the whole reason behind it. Have the bagholders all simply rolled over and accepted defeat? As far as I can tell FC owes AM1 bagholders everything in his wallet. Or does everyone think they can climb out of their hole? (They can't)
What is there to be said? Choosing to not publicly lament over that which we cannot change does not seem like a character flaw to me.
April 22, 2015, 06:42:09 PM
I'm just surprised all the AM1 bag holders are so silent. AM hash is a big fail, but AM1s mess is the whole reason behind it. Have the bagholders all simply rolled over and accepted defeat? As far as I can tell FC owes AM1 bagholders everything in his wallet. Or does everyone think they can climb out of their hole? (They can't)
April 22, 2015, 05:44:02 PM
Isn't it obvious, these dirtbags are hoping the value will spike and they can pay us out and still have a nice little nut left over. Too bad butt holes your sceme is back firing. I guess they didn't wait till all the scammer dumps finished.
At least something is being returned, even if it's a CYA to try and stay out of jail.
At least something is being returned, even if it's a CYA to try and stay out of jail.
April 22, 2015, 01:59:07 PM
It smells like the strategy Ukyo was pursuing back when BitFunder went belly-up. He also promised to pay back the coins in subsequent 'waves' but I think nothing came after wave 1, which was... 10% or so!? Let's see how this goes.
I'm pretty sure it was 6%. Ukyo / Bitfunder / Weexhcange = mega-fails
April 22, 2015, 10:20:44 AM
Got the same thing... how pitiful it looks compared to what is taken... damn, could have bought some shitcoins with those for the better 
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
They're probably paying it with the miners they stole from us.
Has i saied before, the address containing the funds to repay amhashlc is completely founded, so we don't understand why use a rate system instead of "one time" payment, the founds are all in that address.....
This is a huge question and unknown. It makes no sense at all. I really do wonder what the point of it is?
It smells like the strategy Ukyo was pursuing back when BitFunder went belly-up. He also promised to pay back the coins in subsequent 'waves' but I think nothing came after wave 1, which was... 10% or so!? Let's see how this goes.
We can only watch the BTC address on the block chain, to se if there is some strange movements.... 1FU3uhBR4bKTavbeiJXdHHs13W5bRjM7DA
Yeah well, at least we've got a fixed timeframe in which all the coins are supposed to be paid back. If AMHash misses that timeframe, it's clear that something went horribly wrong - again. I mean, the funds are there and can be issued to the creditors - us.
April 22, 2015, 09:52:03 AM
Got the same thing... how pitiful it looks compared to what is taken... damn, could have bought some shitcoins with those for the better
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
They're probably paying it with the miners they stole from us.
Has i saied before, the address containing the funds to repay amhashlc is completely founded, so we don't understand why use a rate system instead of "one time" payment, the founds are all in that address.....
This is a huge question and unknown. It makes no sense at all. I really do wonder what the point of it is?
It smells like the strategy Ukyo was pursuing back when BitFunder went belly-up. He also promised to pay back the coins in subsequent 'waves' but I think nothing came after wave 1, which was... 10% or so!? Let's see how this goes.
We can only watch the BTC address on the block chain, to se if there is some strange movements.... 1FU3uhBR4bKTavbeiJXdHHs13W5bRjM7DA
April 22, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
Got the same thing... how pitiful it looks compared to what is taken... damn, could have bought some shitcoins with those for the better
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
They're probably paying it with the miners they stole from us.
Has i saied before, the address containing the funds to repay amhashlc is completely founded, so we don't understand why use a rate system instead of "one time" payment, the founds are all in that address.....
This is a huge question and unknown. It makes no sense at all. I really do wonder what the point of it is?
It smells like the strategy Ukyo was pursuing back when BitFunder went belly-up. He also promised to pay back the coins in subsequent 'waves' but I think nothing came after wave 1, which was... 10% or so!? Let's see how this goes.
April 22, 2015, 08:53:56 AM
Got the same thing... how pitiful it looks compared to what is taken... damn, could have bought some shitcoins with those for the better
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
They're probably paying it with the miners they stole from us.
Has i saied before, the address containing the funds to repay amhashlc is completely founded, so we don't understand why use a rate system instead of "one time" payment, the founds are all in that address.....
This is a huge question and unknown. It makes no sense at all. I really do wonder what the point of it is?
April 22, 2015, 07:22:15 AM
Got the same thing... how pitiful it looks compared to what is taken... damn, could have bought some shitcoins with those for the better
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
They're probably paying it with the miners they stole from us.
Has i saied before, the address containing the funds to repay amhashlc is completely founded, so we don't understand why use a rate system instead of "one time" payment, the founds are all in that address.....
April 22, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
Got the same thing... how pitiful it looks compared to what is taken... damn, could have bought some shitcoins with those for the better
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
But what can we do.. will wait for the next batch now.. why wouldn't they pay everything at once if they got the money, or they want more torment for us
They're probably paying it with the miners they stole from us.
April 22, 2015, 05:21:32 AM
Ok, but without a "quote" style and a better text, asking for infos, is a misundestaing post.... cheers !
April 22, 2015, 05:12:40 AM
The swap from AMHASH to AMHASHCL was closed at 24:00, Feb 20 (Havelock Time).
Payment Schedule: The total payment to units of AMHashLC will be split into 5 equal installments. The first payment will be provided today. The combined total will be paid out before May 5.
AMHASH contract holders can still request swapping until April 30. However we will postpone the manual processing to May 1.
We will increase the payout for AMHashLC by 50% due to the unexpected payment from Friedcat.
Thank you for investing with Havelock Investments!
https://www.havelockinvestments.com
anyone heard anything about FC surfacing?
??
Payment Schedule: The total payment to units of AMHashLC will be split into 5 equal installments. The first payment will be provided today. The combined total will be paid out before May 5.
AMHASH contract holders can still request swapping until April 30. However we will postpone the manual processing to May 1.
We will increase the payout for AMHashLC by 50% due to the unexpected payment from Friedcat.
Thank you for investing with Havelock Investments!
https://www.havelockinvestments.com
anyone heard anything about FC surfacing?
??In the email i've received from HL no mention of 50% increase in the payout, and also on HL site no mention of this. Where do you had this info
??https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11161030
So is not you info... only a copy&paste without any verification good job bro...
i've asked the same question also on the other topic.....
yes mate reading with understanding is tricky. I asked if any one else had known about this and copied quotes for every one to see who had the original msg... geez...
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