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Quote from: jimmothy on April 26, 2014, 06:39:39 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 26, 2014, 06:32:16 PM

hey, it's your daydream, don't let me interrupt. Grin

Having a discussion and using critical thinking skills is hard for you isn't it?

It doesn't take a genius to understand 12gh > 7gh

Are you having a HashFail argument? Really? 12gh is better than 7gh? That's your only argument?

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Calm down ladies.

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Quote from: raskul on April 26, 2014, 06:32:16 PM

hey, it's your daydream, don't let me interrupt. Grin

Having a discussion and using critical thinking skills is hard for you isn't it?

It doesn't take a genius to understand 12gh > 7gh

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 26, 2014, 06:30:52 PM

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you are comparing my 'already have' to your 'if this and, if that'

Says the guy comparing a nonexistent 28nm chip to q working in hand 40nm chip. Comparing the two existing 40nm chips there is one clear winner and it ain't the 7.5gh one.

Its a bit strange how fanatically you praise spondoolies and trash every other company. Ulterior motive much?

News flash: spondoolies fun time is over. Its time AM takes over the market.

hey, it's your daydream, don't let me interrupt. Grin

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you are comparing my 'already have' to your 'if this and, if that'

Says the guy comparing a nonexistent 28nm chip to q working in hand 40nm chip. Comparing the two existing 40nm chips there is one clear winner and it ain't the 7.5gh one.

Its a bit strange how fanatically you praise spondoolies and trash every other company. Ulterior motive much?

News flash: spondoolies fun time is over. Its time AM takes over the market.

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Quote from: jimmothy on April 26, 2014, 06:19:50 PM

Quote from: raskul on April 26, 2014, 03:06:44 PM

Quote from: dexX7 on April 26, 2014, 02:53:07 PM

Quote from: asicminer-shop.de on April 26, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

nur so als kleiner teaser

http://abload.de/img/2014-04-2615.30.20m4x4b.jpg

I have my SP10 here, already hashing and mined 1BTC to date, where you have there chips which merely match the efficiency of what I already have hashing?
Spondoolies 'hammer' will flood the market before AM3, not to mention their RockerBox gen2 in ~~July~~ ~~August~~ September, so no matter how urged I am to invest here, it's difficult to give myself good reason to do so when so much better is on the horizon.

FTFY

Keep in mind that AM chip is 12gh/s compared to spondoolies 7.5gh/s.

Basically means AM can sell the chips at half the cost compared to spondoolies/avalon.

It is even likely that AM 40nm is cheaper than sp 28nm at the wafer level.

Not to mention AM gen4 will probably be twice as fast as spondoolies (if die shrink benefits are equal.)

If AM fixes whatever went wrong with 40nm efficiency then it will surely blow away even spondoolies 3rd gen chip.

I see what you are doing is - you are comparing my 'already have' to your 'if this and, if that'.
if the world was flat, we would all fall off the edges when we went on holiday.

enjoy your daydream Cheesy

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Quote from: raskul on April 26, 2014, 03:06:44 PM

Quote from: dexX7 on April 26, 2014, 02:53:07 PM

Quote from: asicminer-shop.de on April 26, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

nur so als kleiner teaser

http://abload.de/img/2014-04-2615.30.20m4x4b.jpg

I have my SP10 here, already hashing and mined 1BTC to date, where you have there chips which merely match the efficiency of what I already have hashing?
Spondoolies 'hammer' will flood the market before AM3, not to mention their RockerBox gen2 in ~~July~~ ~~August~~ September, so no matter how urged I am to invest here, it's difficult to give myself good reason to do so when so much better is on the horizon.

FTFY

Keep in mind that AM chip is 12gh/s compared to spondoolies 7.5gh/s.

Basically means AM can sell the chips at half the cost compared to spondoolies/avalon.

It is even likely that AM 40nm is cheaper than sp 28nm at the wafer level.

Not to mention AM gen4 will probably be twice as fast as spondoolies (if die shrink benefits are equal.)

If AM fixes whatever went wrong with 40nm efficiency then it will surely blow away even spondoolies 3rd gen chip.

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Quote from: dexX7 on April 26, 2014, 02:53:07 PM

Quote from: asicminer-shop.de on April 26, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

nur so als kleiner teaser

It's not like chips weren't in the wild until now. http://blog.rockminer.com/#!/2014/04/07/ASICMINER%20gen3%20chips%20received He has them for almost one month.

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Quote from: dexX7 on April 26, 2014, 02:53:07 PM

Quote from: asicminer-shop.de on April 26, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

nur so als kleiner teaser

http://abload.de/img/2014-04-2615.30.20m4x4b.jpg

I have my SP10 here, already hashing and mined 1BTC to date, where you have there chips which merely match the efficiency of what I already have hashing?
Spondoolies 'hammer' will flood the market before AM3, not to mention their RockerBox gen2 in July, so no matter how urged I am to invest here, it's difficult to give myself good reason to do so when so much better is on the horizon.

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Quote from: asicminer-shop.de on April 26, 2014, 01:53:54 PM

nur so als kleiner teaser

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Quote from: raskul on April 26, 2014, 12:33:42 PM

Quote from: necro_nemesis on April 26, 2014, 09:33:05 AM

I'm waiting to make a shit locker of money. Gen 3 final specs are only one factor in that strategic goal. Call a spade a spade. If it wasn't about the money none of us would be here.

You can wait a long time, or even wait some more.. I reckon Spondoolies have got the cat in the bag, their chips are already outperforming the rest of the market, and they are prepared to sell chips alone - it's very possible Sp-Tech Gen2 is going to beat everything else, hands down. Their Gen1 is on a par with AM gen3 and Spondoolies-Tech are already working on a killer Gen3.

I couldn't agree more

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Quote from: necro_nemesis on April 26, 2014, 09:33:05 AM

I'm waiting to make a shit locker of money. Gen 3 final specs are only one factor in that strategic goal. Call a spade a spade. If it wasn't about the money none of us would be here.

You can wait a long time, or even wait some more.. I reckon Spondoolies have got the cat in the bag, their chips are already outperforming the rest of the market, and they are prepared to sell chips alone - it's very possible Sp-Tech Gen2 is going to beat everything else, hands down. Their Gen1 is on a par with AM gen3 and Spondoolies-Tech are already working on a killer Gen3.

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I'm waiting to make a shit locker of money. Gen 3 final specs are only one factor in that strategic goal. Call a spade a spade. If it wasn't about the money none of us would be here.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on April 26, 2014, 01:55:07 AM

Indeed thanks minerpumpkin
Now back to the fairly quiet AM thread as we wait for the first new dividends to come in

I am waiting for final gen3 chip specs, not dividends.

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Indeed thanks minerpumpkin
Now back to the fairly quiet AM thread as we wait for the first new dividends to come in

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Good questions. Thanks.

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Thanks minerpumpkin.

I hope we get an answer soon.

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Excellent, thank you!

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I've just submitted the following questions:

- When can we expect the financial report that's supposed to coincide with the next round of dividends?
- With the switch to selling chips, can we expect dividends to be paid out on are "more monthly" basis?
- What capacity of gen 3 hardware is supposed to be used for franchised mining?
- What are the current approximate terms of franchised mining, i.e. what does it take to become a franchisee and how are AM and the shareholders profiting from it?
- Are there any current plans of improving the PR; maybe bi-weekly short summaries or a PR person (board member?)? Are question sets like this an option, maybe once a month?
- Is it feasible to create a "gen 3.5" with the consumption drawbacks fixed? With the consumption issue at hand, what is the timeframe for gen 4; are there any adjustments?
- After recent crackdowns on BTC exchanges in China, is AM still unaffected and are there strategies to continue operations in case of problems?

It think I've even incorporated all requests, please read all questions again if you can't find your suggestion

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on April 25, 2014, 11:20:16 AM

Quote from: mikemikemike on April 25, 2014, 10:55:40 AM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on April 25, 2014, 07:17:11 AM

We wanted to submit a few followup questions, I'm proposing the following, does anyone have amendments or critique?

- When can we expect the financial report that's supposed to coincide with the next round of dividends?
- With the switch to selling chips, can we expect dividends to be paid out on are "more monthly" basis?
- What capacity of gen 3 hardware is supposed to be used for franchised mining?
- What are the current approximate terms of franchised mining, i.e. how is AM and the shareholders profiting from it?
- Are there any current plans of improving the PR; maybe bi-weekly short summaries or a PR person (board member?)? Are question sets like this an option, maybe once a month?

no amendments as such, these are good questions.

when do you think you will be able to pose these to the board?

I'll guess I'm going to forward them in 1-2 hours, as I'll be out of town over the weekend and everyone who's interested and following this thread should've had the chance of replying by then

I can't fathom when/if we'll get an answer, though. Especially since fc most likely is really really busy.

Thanks minerpumpkin could not think of any good questions this time but glad everyone else covered the ones I had

Edit: Changed mind question is covered

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