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Quote from: necro_nemesis on March 05, 2014, 08:40:22 AM

No offense taken. I attempted to do precisely that but found the exercise difficult given the method of presentation. I saw no harm in simply asking and appreciate the answer in that the arbitrage can provide useful information given there should be a direct correlation.

Because I felt bad, I actually looked into it. In a highly un scientific way I took both charts, put them on the exact same time scale (the full life of AM100) fucked around in photoshop and came out with this in 20 seconds. http://imgur.com/wKeR9Fb

Initially AM1 (full shares) trade at a premium, many people were not happy with the fee TAT took on these shares. It seems like people could care less about that fee now, as the difference between the prices is so little it is hardly there... in fact for some points in time fractional shares are above full shares.

Quote from: 101111 on March 05, 2014, 09:02:57 AM

in edit: I see there's a whale Shocked

buying up in /auctions

Mind posting a link to the relevant auctions?

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My guess 0.00048515.

0.5950*4.24%/52

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Quote from: SmiGueL on March 05, 2014, 05:05:36 AM

Any dividend predictions?

I'll go for: 0.00060433 BTC/share

I know better than to try and out guess SmiGuel but just for laffs, 0.00071011

in edit: I see there's a whale Shocked

buying up in /auctions

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Quote from: aahzmundus on March 05, 2014, 08:16:39 AM

Quote from: necro_nemesis on March 05, 2014, 07:41:32 AM

Just a quick question on the discrepancy between AM1 and the fractional AM100 stock price. I suspect moving fractional shares to be easier to trade due to greater volume thus more attractive to short term investment. AM1 benefit from 5% greater dividend return due to no administration fees. Historically what has been the price difference between 100 AM100's to an AM1?

Nearly the same. Not to be rude but both charts are there for viewing havelock, it would be trivial for you to simply... look at both charts.

No offense taken. I attempted to do precisely that but found the exercise difficult given the method of presentation. I saw no harm in simply asking and appreciate the answer in that the arbitrage can provide useful information given there should be a direct correlation.

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Quote from: necro_nemesis on March 05, 2014, 07:41:32 AM

Just a quick question on the discrepancy between AM1 and the fractional AM100 stock price. I suspect moving fractional shares to be easier to trade due to greater volume thus more attractive to short term investment. AM1 benefit from 5% greater dividend return due to no administration fees. Historically what has been the price difference between 100 AM100's to an AM1?

Nearly the same. Not to be rude but both charts are there for viewing havelock, it would be trivial for you to simply... look at both charts.

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Just a quick question on the discrepancy between AM1 and the fractional AM100 stock price. I suspect moving fractional shares to be easier to trade due to greater volume thus more attractive to short term investment. AM1 benefit from 5% greater dividend return due to no administration fees. Historically what has been the price difference between 100 AM100's to an AM1?

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Quote from: jimmothy on March 05, 2014, 05:18:26 AM

Quote from: lophie on March 05, 2014, 05:07:53 AM

Guys can anyone around here post an acurate enough estimation of the CURRENT hashrate?

150th

Weekly mean estimate = 130 Thps.
95% confidence interval = 50 to 260 Thps.

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Quote from: lophie on March 05, 2014, 05:07:53 AM

Guys can anyone around here post an acurate enough estimation of the CURRENT hashrate?

150th

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Guys can anyone around here post an acurate enough estimation of the CURRENT hashrate?

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Any dividend predictions?

I'll go for: 0.00060433 BTC/share

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Quote from: Fabrizio89 on March 05, 2014, 04:13:58 AM

Quote from: spartan82 on March 05, 2014, 04:13:11 AM

Quote from: szmarco on March 05, 2014, 03:29:45 AM

Interesting..
"另外彩云比特从烤猫处了解到第一批三代芯片已经销售完毕。"
tanslate: BTW,FC told CYbtc that the 1st bach of Gen 3 chips has been sold out.

That's unusual.. Friedcat doesn't do preorders unless I've missed something here?

Probably related to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4816701

Delivery was in track for march so possibly they are completed fab chips?

Although with unexpected obstacles, timing rearrangements and delays, our chips are still on track of delivery in March. This thread for releasing information of chips to public, with the intention of getting enough (direct) customers or (indirect) resellers aware before actual chips are produced.

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Quote from: spartan82 on March 05, 2014, 04:13:11 AM

Quote from: szmarco on March 05, 2014, 03:29:45 AM

Interesting..
"另外彩云比特从烤猫处了解到第一批三代芯片已经销售完毕。"
tanslate: BTW,FC told CYbtc that the 1st bach of Gen 3 chips has been sold out.

That's unusual.. Friedcat doesn't do preorders unless I've missed something here?

Probably related to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4816701

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Quote from: szmarco on March 05, 2014, 03:29:45 AM

Quote from: Lloydie on March 04, 2014, 10:35:12 PM

Quote from: Chris_Sabian on March 03, 2014, 01:32:08 PM

News from a Chinese miner forum:http://cybtc.com/article-655-1.html

Rockxie, who is the exclusive distributer for Asicminer's mining machine in China, announced that he will produce his own miners.
The sample miner will be availble in April and the chips would be AM's Gen3.

specification: AM gen3 chips, 40nm, 1TH, 500W.

Indicates 0.5 W/GHs and that the tapeout was successful? Am I missing something?

Interesting..
"另外彩云比特从烤猫处了解到第一批三代芯片已经销售完毕。"
tanslate: BTW,FC told CYbtc that the 1st bach of Gen 3 chips has been sold out.

That's unusual.. Friedcat doesn't do preorders unless I've missed something here?

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Quote from: Lloydie on March 04, 2014, 10:35:12 PM

Quote from: Chris_Sabian on March 03, 2014, 01:32:08 PM

News from a Chinese miner forum:http://cybtc.com/article-655-1.html

Rockxie, who is the exclusive distributer for Asicminer's mining machine in China, announced that he will produce his own miners.
The sample miner will be availble in April and the chips would be AM's Gen3.

specification: AM gen3 chips, 40nm, 1TH, 500W.

Indicates 0.5 W/GHs and that the tapeout was successful? Am I missing something?

Interesting..
"另外彩云比特从烤猫处了解到第一批三代芯片已经销售完毕。"
tanslate: BTW,FC told CYbtc that the 1st bach of Gen 3 chips has been sold out.

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Quote from: necro_nemesis on March 04, 2014, 10:45:49 PM

That statement could be theoretical based on approximation of what is already known. The physical requirements of the board could be derived from design specifications and the process of manufacturing initiated from specifications alone. Nothing to give physical evidence of a successful tape out from the statement.

Agree. Most likely he was just given enough info so he could make the miners while waiting for the chips.

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That statement could be theoretical based on approximation of what is already known. The physical requirements of the board could be derived from design specifications and the process of manufacturing initiated from specifications alone. Nothing to give physical evidence of a successful tape out from the statement.

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Quote from: Chris_Sabian on March 03, 2014, 01:32:08 PM

News from a Chinese miner forum:http://cybtc.com/article-655-1.html

Rockxie, who is the exclusive distributer for Asicminer's mining machine in China, announced that he will produce his own miners.
The sample miner will be availble in April and the chips would be AM's Gen3.

specification: AM gen3 chips, 40nm, 1TH, 500W.

Indicates 0.5 W/GHs and that the tapeout was successful? Am I missing something?

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Quote from: jimmothy on March 04, 2014, 07:11:19 PM

Quote from: bitcoin.newsfeed on March 04, 2014, 04:43:37 PM

@^ ... 1 block in 5days ... sure, "its happening" "no chance for variance" Roll Eyes

we don't even know if tape out was successful, keep real and wait for update

Don't worry gen3 chips have not been rolled out yet. We will know once AM is averaging 5+ blocks a day.

i was just sharing my enthusiasm..

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Quote from: bitcoin.newsfeed on March 04, 2014, 04:43:37 PM

@^ ... 1 block in 5days ... sure, "its happening" "no chance for variance" Roll Eyes

we don't even know if tape out was successful, keep real and wait for update

Don't worry gen3 chips have not been rolled out yet. We will know once AM is averaging 5+ blocks a day.

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@^ ... 1 block in 5days ... sure, "its happening" "no chance for variance" Roll Eyes

we don't even know if tape out was successful, keep real and wait for update

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