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Quote from: rarefied on August 19, 2013, 09:31:34 PM

A PCI-E card with two 8-pin power connectors can draw up to 375 W total. 150 W from each of the two connectors and 75 W from the motherboard connector. This will require large fans a la the latest video cards that draw this much power.

Well it can't pull any power from the motherboard. BFL claims the product can be connected by EITHER PCIe or USB. So when connected by USB that would mean it isn't connected to motherboard's powerlanes. So either it is going to be three 8 pin PCIe connectors or they will need to run it overspec. No I am not making this up.

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Any updates on the new blade?

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Quote from: Vycid on August 19, 2013, 09:21:34 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on August 19, 2013, 08:48:42 PM

apparently they wouldn't even be cooling the monarch properly, as that many watts in such a small area would require something more than the blower fan it shows in the pictures.

How much does it pull? ( keeping in mind a 7970 mining litecoins can do something ridiculous like 300W and still be cooled adequately on ONE die)

A PCI-E card with two 8-pin power connectors can draw up to 375 W total. 150 W from each of the two connectors and 75 W from the motherboard connector. This will require large fans a la the latest video cards that draw this much power.

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Quote from: Vycid on August 19, 2013, 09:21:34 PM

Quote from: VolanicEruptor on August 19, 2013, 08:48:42 PM

apparently they wouldn't even be cooling the monarch properly, as that many watts in such a small area would require something more than the blower fan it shows in the pictures.

How much does it pull? ( keeping in mind a 7970 mining litecoins can do something ridiculous like 300W and still be cooled adequately on ONE die)

350W if BFL power estimates are correct (which they haven't been for a single product back to the original FPGA miner). The only cards that pull that much are the 6990 and 7990. AMD had to delay the launch by over 6 months for both those products due to ... thermal and power issues.

Pulling 350+ watts out of a confined space is an engineering challenge even for a company like AMD with decades of experience and a large talented team. It is more than reasonable that BFL given their track record of perfect hardware launches and accurate power simulations will be able to do in 3 months what AMD couldn't do in almost a year.

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Quote from: VolanicEruptor on August 19, 2013, 08:48:42 PM

apparently they wouldn't even be cooling the monarch properly, as that many watts in such a small area would require something more than the blower fan it shows in the pictures.

How much does it pull? ( keeping in mind a 7970 mining litecoins can do something ridiculous like 300W and still be cooled adequately on ONE die)

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compare with divs,the cheaper share price the better Grin

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apparently they wouldn't even be cooling the monarch properly, as that many watts in such a small area would require something more than the blower fan it shows in the pictures.

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Quote from: Franktank on August 19, 2013, 08:45:16 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 19, 2013, 04:31:23 PM

Looks like competition is on the way: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2964842

Their shareprice already jumped to 165%.

I await that in the future mostly big companies will share the mining. Simply because they will have access to the lowest priced hardware, not like normal customers.

Butterfly Lab's Monarch

Thoughts? Or have people learned?

BFL

Hey guys theirs imitators out here we must have the best ~~units~~ around

Probably just upgraded their imaginary specs so we can't compare them to the real units around.

(Hey you Jerks, what are you doing announcing 28nm gear while you're still shipping 65nm? I want my Single!)
Heh-heh-heh

Or use the hitler video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYNMKdv36w

Few more months till BFL goes lol.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 19, 2013, 04:31:23 PM

Looks like competition is on the way: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2964842

Their shareprice already jumped to 165%.

I await that in the future mostly big companies will share the mining. Simply because they will have access to the lowest priced hardware, not like normal customers.

Butterfly Lab's Monarch

Thoughts? Or have people learned?

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New blades were supposed to be announced yesterday I thought?

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Quote from: velacreations on August 19, 2013, 05:02:55 PM

Quote from: freedomno1 on August 19, 2013, 04:50:02 PM

On the sidelines thinking where do the bitcoins go later

smart money takes the gains on the crowd, puts it into less risky places...

Well I would say that but then I was thinking if I just bought more Xbonds and sold them back Cheesy

Anyways probably some rebound most btc went to Labcoin same effect as when garden cancelled IPO if nothing happens in lab for a while.

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Imho, it is about time ASICMiner makes the jump to gen2 hardware to stay in pole position.

(assuming friedcat will be able to compete with 55nm hardware in what is rapidly turning into a predominantly 28nm mining world)

Otherwise expect a gradual decline in hashrate coverage, hardware sales, weekly dividends and share price.

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What's happening, why are we not shipping block eruptors yet? Huh

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Quote from: velacreations on August 19, 2013, 04:47:21 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on August 19, 2013, 04:31:23 PM

Looks like competition is on the way: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2964842

Their shareprice already jumped to 165%.

I await that in the future mostly big companies will share the mining. Simply because they will have access to the lowest priced hardware, not like normal customers.

speculators get excited on very little news these days. We've seen labcoin lose 50% of it's value in a day, I wouldn't be surprised if we see that again within the next week.

there are a LOT of questions yet to be answered by that team, and for the information and results delivered so far, the stock is vastly overvalued. The statement today was nothing new or amazing, just that they are "on track".

What sort of questions have they not answered yet?

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Quote from: tkone on August 19, 2013, 04:54:23 PM

ehh all this news that they are finally getting chips shipped...

getting the chips is not even half of the job, heck even if you got the chips, thats not even half the job still!!!!
thats prolly the most easiest part to actaully aquire chips,

how bout creating the pcb? or a working pcb? how bout an efficiently working pcb? ehhh too much work to even name it all out... im not worried about a new company trying to make things happen, good for them let them, theres plenty of space for others,

if we remember, asicminer is proven track record... can easily have way higher hash rate, they just staying humble
thats the exact way i like it, stay humble and ill stay believing in you!!!!

it's not just hardware, the biggest obstacle I see with a lot of these IPOs is actually housing, powering and cooling the amount of hardware they are talking about. That is the part that delays your mining operation, and that's the part of the plan you don't hear ANY of them talking about.

Are they gonna rent a datacenter for $200K a month plus power use? If so, they better get the contract signed now, so they can get their hardware online by October.

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Quote from: freedomno1 on August 19, 2013, 04:50:02 PM

On the sidelines thinking where do the bitcoins go later

smart money takes the gains on the crowd, puts it into less risky places...

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 19, 2013, 04:31:23 PM

Looks like competition is on the way: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2964842

Their shareprice already jumped to 165%.

I await that in the future mostly big companies will share the mining. Simply because they will have access to the lowest priced hardware, not like normal customers.

ehh all this news that they are finally getting chips shipped...

getting the chips is not even half of the job, heck even if you got the chips, thats not even half the job still!!!!
thats prolly the most easiest part to actaully aquire chips,

how bout creating the pcb? or a working pcb? how bout an efficiently working pcb? ehhh too much work to even name it all out... im not worried about a new company trying to make things happen, good for them let them, theres plenty of space for others,

if we remember, asicminer is proven track record... can easily have way higher hash rate, they just staying humble
thats the exact way i like it, stay humble and ill stay believing in you!!!!

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 19, 2013, 04:31:23 PM

Looks like competition is on the way: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2964842

Their shareprice already jumped to 165%.

I await that in the future mostly big companies will share the mining. Simply because they will have access to the lowest priced hardware, not like normal customers.

On the sidelines thinking where do the bitcoins go later

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Quote from: SebastianJu on August 19, 2013, 04:31:23 PM

Looks like competition is on the way: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2964842

Their shareprice already jumped to 165%.

I await that in the future mostly big companies will share the mining. Simply because they will have access to the lowest priced hardware, not like normal customers.

speculators get excited on very little news these days. We've seen labcoin lose 50% of it's value in a day, I wouldn't be surprised if we see that again within the next week.

there are a LOT of questions yet to be answered by that team, and for the information and results delivered so far, the stock is vastly overvalued. The statement today was nothing new or amazing, just that they are "on track".

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Looks like competition is on the way: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2964842

Their shareprice already jumped to 165%.

I await that in the future mostly big companies will share the mining. Simply because they will have access to the lowest priced hardware, not like normal customers.

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