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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 779. (Read 3917468 times)

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that's one theory.  another theory is that a significant portion of AM's hash is being rented out.  They peaked around 50 TH/s or so, and are currently around 30 TH/s.

Why would they be renting capacity for less than expected value? 
Why would someone pay more than the expected value of the capacity?

The renter's expected value for the chips is likely not the same as friedcat's expected value for the same chips.

Is there 30Th/s worth of "greater fools" out there?
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that's one theory.  another theory is that a significant portion of AM's hash is being rented out.  They peaked around 50 TH/s or so, and are currently around 30 TH/s.

Why would they be renting capacity for less than expected value? 
Why would someone pay more than the expected value of the capacity?

The renter's expected value for the chips is likely not the same as friedcat's expected value for the same chips.
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Oh.. well that kind of blows  Cheesy
Are any other resellers receiving slow/partial shipments from Friedcat?  Sounds like WTCR is having that problem..  
I hope production isn't slowing down..

Why would you say that it sounds like we are having that problem?   If anything production seems to be picking up from where I am sitting..  As well your promo order is getting boxed up right as we speak.. Smiley

FC did always say that the promo orders werent immediate,  if anything it was MY decision to jump the gun and say they would be ready for the 15th,  that was my guestimate, we started shipping yesterday so i was off by 4 days..  

Promos are now going out as fast as we can ship them,  back log should be cleared within 2 days.

teek
  

My mistake.. I thought you said that you weren't getting them shipped in fast enough from FC.  
You're definitely on the ball more than others, and I'm probably just used to getting spoiled by your fast service  Grin
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Gerald Davis
that's one theory.  another theory is that a significant portion of AM's hash is being rented out.  They peaked around 50 TH/s or so, and are currently around 30 TH/s.

Why would they be renting capacity for less than expected value? 
Why would someone pay more than the expected value of the capacity?
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That reminds me..

I bought 50 USBs from Friedcat directly before I started ordering from WTCR.

Here is my e-mail, which he never replied to:

"I ordered 50 USB Miners from you back in June when they were 2BTC/each.

I would like to take advantage of the promotion of 0.1BTC/each for new ones, based on that order of 50."


No reply back..

feels like I'm getting some cat shit on me too..

The promotion was for previous orders at the 0.99/0.89 price point.  2BTC orders were not included.
I sent him several emails and PMs over the last month because I purchased 50 @ 0.99 price and was expecting updated pricing or 0.1 promo pricing and he has yet to respond to me.
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What's the deal with the huge block of unknown mining that appeared around the time ASICMINER's marketshare dropped, any theories as to where it is coming from?

BFL moved from the category of "Vaporware" to the category of "Delivering massive hash".

that's one theory.  another theory is that a significant portion of AM's hash is being rented out.  They peaked around 50 TH/s or so, and are currently around 30 TH/s.  At the exact same time, the "unknown" block grew considerably.

so, either FC is having sex in the datacenter again, or 20 TH/s or so of the farm went to "unknown" overnight.
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Oh.. well that kind of blows  Cheesy
Are any other resellers receiving slow/partial shipments from Friedcat?  Sounds like WTCR is having that problem.. 
I hope production isn't slowing down..

Why would you say that it sounds like we are having that problem?   If anything production seems to be picking up from where I am sitting..  As well your promo order is getting boxed up right as we speak.. Smiley

FC did always say that the promo orders werent immediate,  if anything it was MY decision to jump the gun and say they would be ready for the 15th,  that was my guestimate, we started shipping yesterday so i was off by 4 days.. 

Promos are now going out as fast as we can ship them,  back log should be cleared within 2 days.

teek
 
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Oh.. well that kind of blows  Cheesy
Are any other resellers receiving slow/partial shipments from Friedcat?  Sounds like WTCR is having that problem.. 
I hope production isn't slowing down..
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That reminds me..

I bought 50 USBs from Friedcat directly before I started ordering from WTCR.

Here is my e-mail, which he never replied to:

"I ordered 50 USB Miners from you back in June when they were 2BTC/each.

I would like to take advantage of the promotion of 0.1BTC/each for new ones, based on that order of 50."


No reply back..

feels like I'm getting some cat shit on me too..

The promotion was for previous orders at the 0.99/0.89 price point.  2BTC orders were not included.
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That reminds me..

I bought 50 USBs from Friedcat directly before I started ordering from WTCR.

Here is my e-mail, which he never replied to:

"I ordered 50 USB Miners from you back in June when they were 2BTC/each.

I would like to take advantage of the promotion of 0.1BTC/each for new ones, based on that order of 50."


No reply back..

anyone else getting covered in cat shit??
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Friedcat has honored the .1, both through his resellers and direct.

I know this because I have received block eruptors for .1 from both his resellers and direct.

Was it fully or partially honored?

Last time I checked only 30% of previous purchases were eligible to the promo due to limited inventory.

What is questionned here is the remaining 70%


When did you hear this?  And where?

2 weeks ago from SilentSonicBoom in PMs sent to his customers to communicate the promo details. He said 30% limit was from friedcat and if it was lifted he would update us.

I will ping him to check since, I see at least 2 resellers that are honoring 100%.


I would be a little suspicious of "SilentSonicBoom".  If he indeed got that 30% limit directly from Friedcat, then all the other resellers would be in the same boat.   Sounds like bullshit to me.. and a very easy way to keep cheaper units for himself
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What's the deal with the huge block of unknown mining that appeared around the time ASICMINER's marketshare dropped, any theories as to where it is coming from?

BFL moved from the category of "Vaporware" to the category of "Delivering massive hash".
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Friedcat has honored the .1, both through his resellers and direct.

I know this because I have received block eruptors for .1 from both his resellers and direct.

Was it fully or partially honored?

Last time I checked only 30% of previous purchases were eligible to the promo due to limited inventory.

What is questionned here is the remaining 70%


When did you hear this?  And where?

2 weeks ago from SilentSonicBoom in PMs sent to his customers to communicate the promo details. He said 30% limit was from friedcat and if it was lifted he would update us.

I will ping him to check since, I see at least 2 resellers that are honoring 100%.
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What's the deal with the huge block of unknown mining that appeared around the time ASICMINER's marketshare dropped, any theories as to where it is coming from?
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Friedcat has honored the .1, both through his resellers and direct.

I know this because I have received block eruptors for .1 from both his resellers and direct.

Was it fully or partially honored?

Last time I checked only 30% of previous purchases were eligible to the promo due to limited inventory.

What is questionned here is the remaining 70%


When did you hear this?  And where?
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unless Vycid is also the trader that repeatedly has been filling buy orders from 3.7 to 3.5 every night (US time), then no, I don't think he's responsible for these price corrections.
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isn't it clear,  Vycid's smart-ism has only serve one aim, he wants to buy low.

People need to be aware of this. He's bought some PUT options on AM several weeks back (sub 3.0) and they're about expire in the coming weeks. His concerns are valid but he does have an ulterior motive as well.

LOL. I am flattered you find my arguments so convincing as to single-handedly crash the market.

Seriously - one bear shows up, and that's enough to move the market, in your mind?

But, yes, let it be reiterated (I have mentioned this already in the previous pages): I maintain a short position.

They aren't all sub 3.0, BTW. I have quite a few at 3.2 and 3.5.

Who said you were single-handedly crashing the market?  Maybe you believe that, but I doubt anyone else does.  He is pointing out your bias, just as you point out the bias of others.
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isn't it clear,  Vycid's smart-ism has only serve one aim, he wants to buy low.

People need to be aware of this. He's bought some PUT options on AM several weeks back (sub 3.0) and they're about expire in the coming weeks. His concerns are valid but he does have an ulterior motive as well.

LOL. I am flattered you find my arguments so convincing as to single-handedly crash the market.

Seriously - one bear shows up, and that's enough to move the market, in your mind?

But, yes, let it be reiterated (I have mentioned this already in the previous pages): I maintain a short position.

They aren't all sub 3.0, BTW. I have quite a few at 3.2 and 3.5.
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I've seen no evidence to suggest that they have such hardware on hand. I remember Friedcat saying that there was 200 TH/s incoming in 2 sets, with the first batch of the first 100 TH/s entering (or was it leaving) the fab. Since then, I've heard nothing about those chips. Do you have a link to an update about them or something?

The above, coupled with the fact that the hash rate hasn't increased, tells me that they don't in fact have such hardware. If they did have the hardware, why would they just leave it sitting there doing nothing but collecting dust?

well, we don't know what is going on with the hashrate.  They may not be able to deploy more due to some issues, OR they may be mining under an "unknown" label/IP, OR they may be leasing it out.  Without information from FC homself, we don't know the status for sure.  There are many possible reasons why we can't see the "official" hash rate increasing.

I was under the impression that blades were shipping last week, but I don't the set of chips they came from.

And for the new blades, which should be shipping soon, they should be from the latest set of chips, I think.
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Friedcat has honored the .1, both through his resellers and direct.

I know this because I have received block eruptors for .1 from both his resellers and direct.

Was it fully or partially honored?

Last time I checked only 30% of previous purchases were eligible to the promo due to limited inventory.

What is questionned here is the remaining 70%


Still waiting on the 70%
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