ASICMINER Speculation Thread - page 15.

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Quote from: Mabsark on September 19, 2014, 01:10:47 PM

Quote from: trek27 on September 19, 2014, 12:00:56 PM

You're ignoring the BTC income from selling chips and miners.

Just trying to stir some discussion in this thread

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Yes, hopefully, miners (chips) are finding buyers. Good funding for gen4 seems to be crucial - competition is announcing new solutions (though, rests to see if realistic). Time-frame for really successful gen4 deployment seems to shorten.

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Quote from: trek27 on September 19, 2014, 12:00:56 PM

I'm a bit cautious about AM having large btc reserve:
a) on the 'saloon' FC talked about negative balances, whatever he meant it's reasonable to assume AM hadn't a lot of btc in mid-July.
b) since then the whole network mined around 250k,
c) to mine ~60k would require almost 25%
Not viable.

Of course FC could have been engaged in speculative and highly rewarding transactions. Wink

You're ignoring the BTC income from selling chips and miners.

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I'm a bit cautious about AM having large btc reserve:
a) on the 'saloon' FC talked about negative balances, whatever he meant it's reasonable to assume AM hadn't a lot of btc in mid-July.
b) since then the whole network mined around 250k,
c) to mine ~60k would require almost 25%
Not viable.

Of course FC could have been engaged in speculative and highly rewarding transactions. Wink

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Could you imagine if that was the case Grin

Quote from: jjdub7 on September 19, 2014, 10:26:05 AM

Quote from: stompysteve on September 19, 2014, 10:21:49 AM

Quote from: lophie on September 19, 2014, 09:30:06 AM

Quote from: stompysteve on September 19, 2014, 09:12:52 AM

https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

I'm still pretty sure this is the address to look out for it has been receiving 300-1000btc per day for at least two weeks back from other AM addresses

Today it received 6000btc so far

wow[...]

im definitely not saying this is the div payout address...just a wallet most likely owned by AM that has alot of BTC flowing thru it daily

Quote from: jjdub7 on September 16, 2014, 03:25:37 AM

New post to highlight significance. Funds moved out of original (old solo) mining address to https://blockchain.info/address/1ERszMSERwHNR9Xty73KZXpsg1jjBXWcHh.

This address in turn links to many of the other addresses mentioned through a ~500 BTC transaction to https://blockchain.info/address/16V3hoVfbQmpQQpCSkAirjVHGfSFoDFSbW (to sign these tx's, FC would have to hold the private keys to all inputs), including, most notably:

https://blockchain.info/address/19iVyH1qUxgywY8LJSbpV4VavjZmyuEyxV
https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8
https://blockchain.info/address/13p5iQkqBEVgKmPeJqEL2LBRS44PjX1dZL
https://blockchain.info/address/1KryFUt9tXHvaoCYTNPbqpWPJKQ717YmL5

In addition, these link through 13p5iQkqBEVgKmPeJqEL2LBRS44PjX1dZL via https://blockchain.info/tx/8c958ec1993b9b64442db8e591746a5f93ed0787921df6627ba86474e9576bfa
https://blockchain.info/tx/e3fd553c14699ec480c588c963c22515d869fed59a8cc2aaecb30e84ab4be30e
https://blockchain.info/tx/3426ad6a3be780b008b0d8f392d4d62fe098271f1f23de38b483655ef7086273
!!

https://blockchain.info/address/12WRnQR85ZUT7dhmaHBNL5dde2QLYieW6v
https://blockchain.info/address/1B9KrM7bjhJ42qJSWr1KJrNTAP1SNGMpJu

The transactions

I'd seen these addresses a number of times before and have mentioned them in this forum, but the tx that definitively links them is when the funds were sent from 1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i (AM's old solomining address which has been receiving the BTCGuild output) to 1ERszMSERwHNR9Xty73KZXpsg1jjBXWcHh earlier this morning.

Also, in case anyone's looking (I'm out of BTC after buying AM shares earlier in the night after the aforementioned tx) - there's an arb opp to sell MINE/SELL pairs back to twentyseventy for BDD at the 0.01051/0.0055 level.

So either those are AM wallets or friedcat transferred a bulk share of AM's books to an exchange to temporarily crash the BTC-USD price and allow potential buyers to buy tubes/shares before using the fiat to buy back in at a BTC profit (which, granted, would be pretty far-fetched, extremely risky, and would make shareholders very uncomfortable)

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Quote from: stompysteve on September 19, 2014, 10:21:49 AM

Quote from: lophie on September 19, 2014, 09:30:06 AM

Quote from: stompysteve on September 19, 2014, 09:12:52 AM

https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

I'm still pretty sure this is the address to look out for it has been receiving 300-1000btc per day for at least two weeks back from other AM addresses

Today it received 6000btc so far

wow[...]

im definitely not saying this is the div payout address...just a wallet most likely owned by AM that has alot of BTC flowing thru it daily

Quote from: jjdub7 on September 16, 2014, 03:25:37 AM

New post to highlight significance. Funds moved out of original (old solo) mining address to https://blockchain.info/address/1ERszMSERwHNR9Xty73KZXpsg1jjBXWcHh.

This address in turn links to many of the other addresses mentioned through a ~500 BTC transaction to https://blockchain.info/address/16V3hoVfbQmpQQpCSkAirjVHGfSFoDFSbW (to sign these tx's, FC would have to hold the private keys to all inputs), including, most notably:

https://blockchain.info/address/19iVyH1qUxgywY8LJSbpV4VavjZmyuEyxV
https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8
https://blockchain.info/address/13p5iQkqBEVgKmPeJqEL2LBRS44PjX1dZL
https://blockchain.info/address/1KryFUt9tXHvaoCYTNPbqpWPJKQ717YmL5

In addition, these link through 13p5iQkqBEVgKmPeJqEL2LBRS44PjX1dZL via https://blockchain.info/tx/8c958ec1993b9b64442db8e591746a5f93ed0787921df6627ba86474e9576bfa
https://blockchain.info/tx/e3fd553c14699ec480c588c963c22515d869fed59a8cc2aaecb30e84ab4be30e
https://blockchain.info/tx/3426ad6a3be780b008b0d8f392d4d62fe098271f1f23de38b483655ef7086273
!!

https://blockchain.info/address/12WRnQR85ZUT7dhmaHBNL5dde2QLYieW6v
https://blockchain.info/address/1B9KrM7bjhJ42qJSWr1KJrNTAP1SNGMpJu

The transactions

I'd seen these addresses a number of times before and have mentioned them in this forum, but the tx that definitively links them is when the funds were sent from 1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i (AM's old solomining address which has been receiving the BTCGuild output) to 1ERszMSERwHNR9Xty73KZXpsg1jjBXWcHh earlier this morning.

Also, in case anyone's looking (I'm out of BTC after buying AM shares earlier in the night after the aforementioned tx) - there's an arb opp to sell MINE/SELL pairs back to twentyseventy for BDD at the 0.01051/0.0055 level.

So either those are AM wallets or friedcat transferred a bulk share of AM's books to an exchange to temporarily crash the BTC-USD price and allow potential buyers to buy tubes/shares before using the fiat to buy back in at a BTC profit (which, granted, would be pretty far-fetched, extremely risky, and would make shareholders very uncomfortable)

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Quote from: lophie on September 19, 2014, 09:30:06 AM

Quote from: stompysteve on September 19, 2014, 09:12:52 AM

https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

I'm still pretty sure this is the address to look out for it has been receiving 300-1000btc per day for at least two weeks back from other AM addresses

Today it received 6000btc so far

wow so we will get 10% of the current price in one go since the div stopped ages ago! The price will go to the moooon more than how it stabilized at 20% yield on steady divs....

smell my sarcazm.

im definitely not saying this is the div payout address...just a wallet most likely owned by AM that has alot of BTC flowing thru it daily

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Quote from: stompysteve on September 19, 2014, 09:12:52 AM

https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

I'm still pretty sure this is the address to look out for it has been receiving 300-1000btc per day for at least two weeks back from other AM addresses

Today it received 6000btc so far

wow so we will get 10% of the current price in one go since the div stopped ages ago! The price will go to the moooon more than how it stabilized at 20% yield on steady divs....

smell my sarcazm.

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https://blockchain.info/address/3MkwFfGNQDve7vz1z6gUDVxkuQpcSV3Mz8

I'm still pretty sure this is the address to look out for it has been receiving 300-1000btc per day for at least two weeks back from other AM addresses

Today it received 6000btc so far

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https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i

Looks like that balance got emptied then 10 BTC put back in yesterday
Otherwise nothing really worth speculating on just keeping it around since it may get interesting in the next little while
Hopefully

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Quote from: vortex1878 on September 12, 2014, 09:10:30 PM

Quote from: Endlessa on September 12, 2014, 08:14:16 PM

Yeah none of that looks like mining activity. . . mostly because it occurs exactly one hour apart (within a few seconds) for exactly 10 btc. That would have purposely scheduled transferred funds for reasons that are nothing more than purely made up, unless an official channel declares publicly otherwise. In general, that just shows odd behavior on the part of AM.

You are a genius. Get lost posting what had been discussed over and over again. Yes, a repeated payout of 10 BTC per hour has been set, and nobody needs you fucktard to repeat the obvious again.

lol you should probably take a vacation and unwind man. Grudge much?

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Quote from: Endlessa on September 12, 2014, 08:14:16 PM

Yeah none of that looks like mining activity. . . mostly because it occurs exactly one hour apart (within a few seconds) for exactly 10 btc. That would have purposely scheduled transferred funds for reasons that are nothing more than purely made up, unless an official channel declares publicly otherwise. In general, that just shows odd behavior on the part of AM.

You are a genius. Get lost posting what had been discussed over and over again. Yes, a repeated payout of 10 BTC per hour has been set, and nobody needs you fucktard to repeat the obvious again.

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Yeah none of that looks like mining activity. . . mostly because it occurs exactly one hour apart (within a few seconds) for exactly 10 btc. That would have purposely scheduled transferred funds for reasons that are nothing more than purely made up, unless an official channel declares publicly otherwise. In general, that just shows odd behavior on the part of AM.

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Guys keep your wits about you. Just because BTC is getting shuffled around, doesn't mean that dividends are imminent. It doesn't even mean that the BTC is going to be used for any purpose. If it's going to be spent though, there could be numerous things it could be spent on. It could be dividends, gen 4 tape-out and batches, gen3 farms, more batches of gen 3, refunds even.

Divs would be nice though.

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Quote from: hdbuck on September 12, 2014, 08:27:06 AM

Quote from: jjdub7 on September 12, 2014, 05:35:26 AM

Quote from: VeeMiner on September 12, 2014, 05:10:47 AM

Quote from: KarmaShark on September 11, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

Time for speculation:

Currently there is a 10BTC/hr income showing up an address that appears to have ties to the company. If AM is trickling in mining revenue in preparation for a dividend some point in September, shareholders will be happy with the end result. AM may indeed have started its climb to regain the 2013 average network percentage as forecasted by Fried Cat in early August. Let the good times roll.

which address?

https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i

It was yesterday morning. Prompted the (brief) price bump.

Thing i dont get is some 10BTC came from known BTC-guild addy. others come from random adresses. Huh

That doesn't mean those are not BTCGuild addresses. As the payments came exactly the same time every hour, those other addresses are very likely to be BTCGuild's also.

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Quote from: jjdub7 on September 12, 2014, 05:35:26 AM

Quote from: VeeMiner on September 12, 2014, 05:10:47 AM

Quote from: KarmaShark on September 11, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

Time for speculation:

Currently there is a 10BTC/hr income showing up an address that appears to have ties to the company. If AM is trickling in mining revenue in preparation for a dividend some point in September, shareholders will be happy with the end result. AM may indeed have started its climb to regain the 2013 average network percentage as forecasted by Fried Cat in early August. Let the good times roll.

which address?

https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i

It was yesterday morning. Prompted the (brief) price bump.

Thing i dont get is some 10BTC came from known BTC-guild addy. others come from random adresses. Huh

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Quote from: VeeMiner on September 12, 2014, 05:10:47 AM

Quote from: KarmaShark on September 11, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

Time for speculation:

Currently there is a 10BTC/hr income showing up an address that appears to have ties to the company. If AM is trickling in mining revenue in preparation for a dividend some point in September, shareholders will be happy with the end result. AM may indeed have started its climb to regain the 2013 average network percentage as forecasted by Fried Cat in early August. Let the good times roll.

which address?

https://blockchain.info/address/1HtUGfbDcMzTeHWx2Dbgnhc6kYnj1Hp24i

It was yesterday morning. Prompted the (brief) price bump.

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Quote from: KarmaShark on September 11, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

Time for speculation:

Currently there is a 10BTC/hr income showing up an address that appears to have ties to the company. If AM is trickling in mining revenue in preparation for a dividend some point in September, shareholders will be happy with the end result. AM may indeed have started its climb to regain the 2013 average network percentage as forecasted by Fried Cat in early August. Let the good times roll.

which address?

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Quote from: chairforce1 on September 11, 2014, 06:26:02 PM

Quote from: KarmaShark on September 11, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

Time for speculation:

Currently there is a 10BTC/hr income showing up...

It would be interesting if FC was testing market reaction to dividends. Am I wrong in thinking that Jutarul and maybe others put up walls in an attempt to decelerate the increasing share price last year? I wonder how things are going behind the curtain. With such limited information its going to be nutz if/when divs come and people try to figure out the appropriate share price, whether low or high. Havelock's thin order book is a pressure cooker.

Make your bets, and place your asks to take advantage of the overshoot Tongue

Fireworks will be on for sure. With a little luck I can grow my accumulation. If not, some BTC in my wallet. It's been a long ~~winter summer~~ year.

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Quote from: KarmaShark on September 11, 2014, 12:57:33 PM

Time for speculation:

Currently there is a 10BTC/hr income showing up...

It would be interesting if FC was testing market reaction to dividends. Am I wrong in thinking that Jutarul and maybe others put up walls in an attempt to decelerate the increasing share price last year? I wonder how things are going behind the curtain. With such limited information its going to be nutz if/when divs come and people try to figure out the appropriate share price, whether low or high. Havelock's thin order book is a pressure cooker.

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Time for speculation:

Currently there is a 10BTC/hr income showing up an address that appears to have ties to the company. If AM is trickling in mining revenue in preparation for a dividend some point in September, shareholders will be happy with the end result. AM may indeed have started its climb to regain the 2013 average network percentage as forecasted by Fried Cat in early August. Let the good times roll.

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