Topic: ASICMiner USB group buy- orders closed, pay for extra! - page 111. (Read 165774 times)
Put me down for 10 units @ 21.013 BTC
first - the price is at least 25% too high. these will be mass-made in only a few months time, probably by the time these are received and reshipped...
second: why would i trust you to re-ship tens of thousands of dollars in hardware, that you could make another 50K on by using yourself for a month....?
second: why would i trust you to re-ship tens of thousands of dollars in hardware, that you could make another 50K on by using yourself for a month....?
um... escrow? and these are supposedly shipping in about 2 weeks...
first - the price is at least 25% too high. these will be mass-made in only a few months time, probably by the time these are received and reshipped...
second: why would i trust you to re-ship tens of thousands of dollars in hardware, that you could make another 50K on by using yourself for a month....?
second: why would i trust you to re-ship tens of thousands of dollars in hardware, that you could make another 50K on by using yourself for a month....?
What is the plan for defective units? Is arklan responsible for testing/returning as needed before they are shipped to end users? If an end user receives a defective unit, is there a plan for returning? I'm assuming the units are guaranteed to the original buyer only (if that).
i have no problem testing them. i do not know what AM's policy is regarding defectives though.
So if I understand correctly, after all 300 units have been ordered, the lead time is ~25 days out before we receive product ?
I'm considering committing to an order for 10 units @ 21.013 BTC.
I'm considering committing to an order for 10 units @ 21.013 BTC.
i'd rely on what the main thread says for this. which it seems you have. heh. yes, that sounds right. give or take.
So if I understand correctly, after all 300 units have been ordered, the lead time is ~25 days out before we receive product ?
I'm considering committing to an order for 10 units @ 21.013 BTC.
I'm considering committing to an order for 10 units @ 21.013 BTC.
What is the plan for defective units? Is arklan responsible for testing/returning as needed before they are shipped to end users? If an end user receives a defective unit, is there a plan for returning? I'm assuming the units are guaranteed to the original buyer only (if that).
Put me down for 3 (I had a previous bid for 5, it got missed though... but I would only like 3 now)
whoops! sorry bout that. 3 it is.
currently we have:
arklan 1 (+3 as fee for organizing the group buy)
bigbeninlondon 1
hephaist0s 3
BlackLilac Grant 10
johnny5 20
Stevenrm87 1
AForceNinja 5
DPoS 4
CanaryInTheMine 1
Bogart 10
Oaxaca 10
Photon939 2
purplesquid 10
zapeta 5
GreatBug 5
thoughtcourier 1
Herbalconfusion 5
Pez 1
finalmoney 10 - canceled.
cchan 5
el3ctrophile 4
logicbomb666 1
win07 1
bitcoinmike 4
noitev 1
DeveloperFish 5
chaxattack 2
muyuu 2
shep80 1
ensign_lee 5
wa4hsh 2
silverbox 1
Klestin 2
Timzim 4
CommanderVenus 1
twobits 3
lostmach 5
tigerfree 1
veryveryinteresting 3
SilentSonicBoom 1
aahzmundus 3
for a total of 151. 149 remaining! we're half way there folks!
Put me down for 3 (I had a previous bid for 5, it got missed though... but I would only like 3 now)
With current prices, john gets about $1400 USD. In exchange he takes the risk of 100 people inundating him if arklan drops off the face of the earth.
Arklan gets about $2400 (fee + shipping). In exchange he organizes this, packages 296 miners in ~100 boxes and ships them. He also deals with "OMFG whar my package! WHAR?!?", and he accepts the risk that exchange prices drop precipitously and he must pay for shipping partially out of pocket. (Would advise that he converts the .05 BTC to USD as soon as possible to mitigate this).
In light of relatively thin choices of reputable escrow agents, I'm personally willing to live with 2%. The .05 BTC + 3 units seems a reasonable cost to organize and ship, again IMHO.
Arklan gets about $2400 (fee + shipping). In exchange he organizes this, packages 296 miners in ~100 boxes and ships them. He also deals with "OMFG whar my package! WHAR?!?", and he accepts the risk that exchange prices drop precipitously and he must pay for shipping partially out of pocket. (Would advise that he converts the .05 BTC to USD as soon as possible to mitigate this).
In light of relatively thin choices of reputable escrow agents, I'm personally willing to live with 2%. The .05 BTC + 3 units seems a reasonable cost to organize and ship, again IMHO.
Would typing on ~100 packets. --> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AkRHbOmCoH9PdEdWSkJ3MDFFelFkRVdjb280TUtqRWc&output=html
Find the fee rather low. Is a lot of work
BTW the EU group buy is now also in english: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gb-usb-asic-miner-closed-and-completed-195037
maybe you want to adjust the op
Find the fee rather low. Is a lot of work
BTW the EU group buy is now also in english: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gb-usb-asic-miner-closed-and-completed-195037
maybe you want to adjust the op
the 2% is john's fee, and is out of my control.
my "fee" wasn't even my suggestion, so i'd have no problem with less if there's a bunch of concern about it.
as to the shipping fee, if it's low, then i'm out of luck, aren't i?
my "fee" wasn't even my suggestion, so i'd have no problem with less if there's a bunch of concern about it.
as to the shipping fee, if it's low, then i'm out of luck, aren't i?
OK,
I'm not trying to be a wet blanket or anything. I'm just trying to get it straight.
John gets 12 BTC for "assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins".
(Seems like a lot)
Arklan gets 6 BTC (in kind) for assembling and posting something like 50 packages.
(Seems like a hell of an hourly wage)
There is a fee of .05 BTC each to cover shipping.
(Seems low to me, but ...)
Again, nothing personal against anybody.
I'm not trying to be a wet blanket or anything. I'm just trying to get it straight.
John gets 12 BTC for "assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins".
(Seems like a lot)
Arklan gets 6 BTC (in kind) for assembling and posting something like 50 packages.
(Seems like a hell of an hourly wage)
There is a fee of .05 BTC each to cover shipping.
(Seems low to me, but ...)
Again, nothing personal against anybody.
well, atually i won't get ANY btc as a fee. just 3 more miners. which, you know, earns btc... so, yea.
Don't pester me with your mundane 'facts'. "Nearly 3 miners" is not nearly as impressive as 588 MILLION satoshis!
900 MILLION hashes per second is even more impressive
1.2 billion with he one i'm buying. plus my vidcard at 270 mhash. 1.47 BILLION HASHES!
well, atually i won't get ANY btc as a fee. just 3 more miners. which, you know, earns btc... so, yea.
Don't pester me with your mundane 'facts'. "Nearly 3 miners" is not nearly as impressive as 588 MILLION satoshis!
900 MILLION hashes per second is even more impressive
well, atually i won't get ANY btc as a fee. just 3 more miners. which, you know, earns btc... so, yea.
Don't pester me with your mundane 'facts'. "Nearly 3 miners" is not nearly as impressive as 588 MILLION satoshis!
OMG Arklan's fee is 588 million satoshis! He'll be rich!
well, atually i won't get ANY btc as a fee. just 3 more miners. which, you know, earns btc... so, yea.
OMG Arklan's fee is 588 million satoshis! He'll be rich!
I think so. Also note that due to rounding, 2.1013 leaves you short 9 bitcents, so either your fee is 3 units minus 9 bitcents, or round up to 2.1014 and call it a day. 
I expect everyone would have been fine with your 2.10812 price, but you did ask for a math check!
I expect everyone would have been fine with your 2.10812 price, but you did ask for a math check! Also, change price on first page as suggested earlier. Thank you.
yup, i did.
I think so. Also note that due to rounding, 2.1013 leaves you short 9 bitcents, so either your fee is 3 units minus 9 bitcents, or round up to 2.1014 and call it a day. I expect everyone would have been fine with your 2.10812 price, but you did ask for a math check!
I expect everyone would have been fine with your 2.10812 price, but you did ask for a math check! Also, change price on first page as suggested earlier. Thank you.
I think so. Also note that due to rounding, 2.1013 leaves you short 9 bitcents, so either your fee is 3 units minus 9 bitcents, or round up to 2.1014 and call it a day.
i'll add the 9 bitcents to my purchase, for 1.99 + .09 for a total of 2.08 btc that i owe to the fund.
currently we have:
arklan 1 (+3 as fee for organizing the group buy)
bigbeninlondon 1
hephaist0s 3
BlackLilac Grant 10
johnny5 20
Stevenrm87 1
AForceNinja 5
DPoS 4
CanaryInTheMine 1
Bogart 10
Oaxaca 10
Photon939 2
purplesquid 10
zapeta 5
GreatBug 5
thoughtcourier 1
Herbalconfusion 5
Pez 1
finalmoney 10 - canceled.
cchan 5
el3ctrophile 4
logicbomb666 1
win07 1
bitcoinmike 4
noitev 1
DeveloperFish 5
chaxattack 2
muyuu 2
shep80 1
ensign_lee 5
wa4hsh 2
silverbox 1
Klestin 2
Timzim 4
CommanderVenus 1
twobits 3
lostmach 5
tigerfree 1
veryveryinteresting 3
SilentSonicBoom 1
for a total of 148. 152 remaining!
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