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Topic: Ask TF thread (Read 21652 times)
Is this article accurate?
Were you involved in Hashocean?
Nope. >real blazr
Was there a fake blazr?
lol, if you have been paying attention then it should be fairly obvious. I will just leave it at that....Was there a fake blazr?
Not joking, haven't been following the drama around here, just noticed TF posting & stopped by. How about a link?
>real blazr
Was there a fake blazr?
lol, if you have been paying attention then it should be fairly obvious. I will just leave it at that.... Was there a fake blazr?
>real blazr
Was there a fake blazr?
Was there a fake blazr?
Were you involved in Hashocean?
Ooh, good question, would make the trifecta of his scamming.
Hashocean is/was also was a cloud mining site, similar to hashie, and a scammer cloud mining operator would need to invest zero money in his scam as he can simply send back a small portion of what he received from his customers each week/money/whenever in order to make him appear legitimate.
There are a couple of other subtile things as well that could point to TF being behind Hashocean.
On the other hand, TF did give a somewhat reasonable explanation as to why he did what he did with hashie -- he somewhat implied that he closed down hashie (via running away with all hashie's customers' funds) on the day that AMHASH's mining equipment was no longer available to the shareholders of AMHASH (and payouts from AMHASH were instead being funded from BTC on hand, including BTC from AMHASH sales), closed hashie because of this, and kept his commissions from AMHASH. I believe that AMHASH made good on the cloud mining that was sold by hashie that was designed to be AMHASH cloud mining. I believe that hashie also sold it's own cloud mining contracts that were not honored and I assume that btc on deposit at hashie was not refunded, so there was actual money stolen as a result of hashie.
Discussions with real blazr also reveal that TF was not planning on opening a new bitcoin related business (eventual scam) and is more interested in etherum. However this was something that was simply told to real blazr and not something that he (nor I) would vouch for. This would also contradict the above circumstantial evidence
Were you involved in Hashocean?
Ooh, good question, would make the trifecta of his scamming.
Were you involved in Hashocean?
Bump ^^
TF,
IIRC, I was the largest BTCINVESTer. *After* the alleged hacks, you liquidated BTCINVEST and into coinlenders so that we could withdraw what remained of our investment with you. As you know, we were never able to withdraw from CL, even though there were no further hacks.
Now that you have some money and are doing some shopping (https://blockchain.info/address/1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF), are you going to return some of our money?
IIRC, I was the largest BTCINVESTer. *After* the alleged hacks, you liquidated BTCINVEST and into coinlenders so that we could withdraw what remained of our investment with you. As you know, we were never able to withdraw from CL, even though there were no further hacks.
Now that you have some money and are doing some shopping (https://blockchain.info/address/1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF), are you going to return some of our money?
How about an early wedding present and you give me some or all of my 10.68 btc back. Or...how about you make me a simple video poker website, with no further capital investment from me besides bankroll, as compensation?
TF,
IIRC, I was the largest BTCINVESTer. *After* the alleged hacks, you liquidated BTCINVEST and into coinlenders so that we could withdraw what remained of our investment with you. As you know, we were never able to withdraw from CL, even though there were no further hacks.
Now that you have some money and are doing some shopping (https://blockchain.info/address/1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF), are you going to return some of our money?
IIRC, I was the largest BTCINVESTer. *After* the alleged hacks, you liquidated BTCINVEST and into coinlenders so that we could withdraw what remained of our investment with you. As you know, we were never able to withdraw from CL, even though there were no further hacks.
Now that you have some money and are doing some shopping (https://blockchain.info/address/1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF), are you going to return some of our money?
Thanks for the info. However his arrogance in the situation allowed me to find a thread where he essentially admitted to scamming you/coinchat. He still denies the allegations and is trying to weasel his way out of being held responsibility however he is now labeled a scammer.
Lol, it's the daily Quickseller/ACCTseller masterbation post! "his arrogance allowed me to find", I think you mean that I pointed you to the thread where all of this stuff was already made public. The fun thing that just got revealed above is that you can see how TF asks me to "return" .2 BTC but then later he changes that to .5BTC. Everything else above is already in that thread I pointed you to.
I also love how QS/ACCTseller believes that his godlike pronouncement of trolling my feedback and echoing what TF said years ago somehow makes me "now labelled as a scammer". Cute!
You had posted negative trust on tspacepilot that he defrauded coinchat. Do you have any evidence of him doing so? If so can you post such evidence?
TL;DR: he made a bot that copied stuff from wikipedia or something to collect the free BTC, and defrauded coins.
here's an email exchange where he wastes my time.
tspacepilot banned
14 messages
JC <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Hi admin,
I seem to have been banned from coinchat. What a shame, I was having such a lovely time. Can I ask what happened?
--TSpace
gladoscc <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:43 AM
To: JC <[email protected]>
#Spacechat
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JC <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 8:57 AM
To: gladoscc <[email protected]>
Hi admin,
In #spacechat, I was trying to test out a bot. What was the problem?
In any case, I enjoyed the site a lot and had a lot of fun chatting with others and playing with moobot. If you don't want me around anymore, that's ok, I'll get over it.
I guess I might remind you that I asked several times about whether there were any rules I should know about. You never got back to me on that. Seems like I've broken some rule or made you angry in some way.
Still not sure what went wrong.
Best,
--TSpace
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gladoscc <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:01 AM
To: JC <[email protected]>
I know you know what the problem is, I'm not interested in BSing, but if you want to come back you'll need to return all the BTC you've withdrawn since you started running the bot.
JC <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM
To: gladoscc <[email protected]>
Sounds good. I think here's where I'm confused:
a) I don't know what the rules are
b) You are suggesting that I owe you something
If you can address (a) then I could be sure not to break these rules again. Without knowing what the rules are it's hard to know that I'm not breaking them. Without (b) it's hard to know what you think I owe you or how you came to that conclusion.
Can you be more specific about (a) and (b)?
Best,
Tspace
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gladoscc <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:11 AM
To: JC <[email protected]>
a) Bots must be run from a specially designated bot account that does not earn tips.
b) Common sense tells you that the mBTC you've obtained from the bot is fraudulent, and it may also have infringed the copyright of whatever site you copied it from, as you were using it for a commercial purpose.
I'm not interested in wasting my time with BSing with you. You know exactly what you did wrong, and if you play dumb it's the last time I'll be talking to you.
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JC <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:19 AM
To: gladoscc <[email protected]>
Below:
On 08/29/2013 04:11 PM, gladoscc wrote:
a) Bots must be run from a specially designated bot account that does not
earn tips.
That sounds fair, it's the first I've heard of it. Is this the only rule? Is it posted somewhere? Is there a list of rules I can read and know about so that if we were to resolve our differences (sounding less likely given your tone) that I could be sure not to make you angry again.
b) Common sense tells you that the mBTC you've obtained from the bot is
fraudulent,
I think that "fraud" is defined by juridical/legislative/governmental process, not "common sense". Seems like you want to accuse me of something, but you won't go ahead and say what it is that you want to say. Not sure why you're being evasive.
and it may also have infringed the copyright of whatever site
you copied it from, as you were using it for a commercial purpose.
I haven't copied anything. I'm not sure what you mean here. Several times you and I had conversations about your API and I told you that I was working on a bot. I'm a relatively good programmer, and I enjoyed learning about node.js and experimenting with robots on your site. Given that I discussed what I was doing with you several times, I'm not sure why you're trying to accuse me of copying or "commercial purposes". What sort of commerce to you suppose I'm involved in? I'm not sure where you're going with this.
For all your crytic allegations here, you still haven't talked about how much you think I owe you or how you arrived at that number. From what I can tell, your site gives out BTC for chatting. I got some of that BTC and now you want it back. Please let me know what I'm missing.
*I'm not interested in wasting my time with BSing with you. You know
exactly what you did wrong, and if you play dumb it's the last time I'll be
talking to you.*
Also not interested in wasting time. Seems like you got angry about something and you don't want to discuss it plainly. If you change your mind, I'm all ears. I really did enjoy your site and the community there.
Best,
tspacepilot
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gladoscc <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:23 AM
To: JC <[email protected]>
The site gives you free mBTC for *chatting*, not for bots.
See here for a list of the rules http://glados.cc/coinchat.html
You've withdrawn 213 mBTC (0.213 BTC) after your first withdraw, and that is the amount you need to send back if you would like to be unbanned from coinchat.
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JC <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:30 AM
To: gladoscc <[email protected]>
Thanks this reply is much more to the point
On 08/29/2013 04:23 PM, gladoscc wrote:
The site gives you free mBTC for *chatting*, not for bots.
See here for a list of the rules http://glados.cc/coinchat.html
I will review these rules. Thanks!
You've withdrawn 213 mBTC (0.213 BTC) after your first withdraw, and that
is the amount you need to send back if you would like to be unbanned from
coinchat.
Well, I don't believe that's correct, a very small percentage of my chatting was autogenerated and none of it was done with bad intentions.
Secondarily, I only started experimenting with autogenerated chatting over the last week, and I think I've been a member for over a month.
Oh well, it seems my love affair with coinchat was brief and passionate.
Best of luck in your endeavors. If you ever change your mind...
tspacepilot
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:19 AM, JC <[email protected]>wrote:
Below:
On 08/29/2013 04:11 PM, gladoscc wrote:
a) Bots must be run from a specially designated bot account that does not
earn tips.
That sounds fair, it's the first I've heard of it. Is this the only rule?
Is it posted somewhere? Is there a list of rules I can read and know
about so that if we were to resolve our differences (sounding less likely
given your tone) that I could be sure not to make you angry again.
b) Common sense tells you that the mBTC you've obtained from the bot is
fraudulent,
I think that "fraud" is defined by juridical/legislative/**governmental
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On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM, JC
wrote:
Sounds good. I think here's where I'm confused:
a) I don't know what the rules are
b) You are suggesting that I owe you something
If you can address (a) then I could be sure not to break these rules
again. Without knowing what the rules are it's hard to know that I'm not
breaking them. Without (b) it's hard to know what you think I owe you or
how you came to that conclusion.
Can you be more specific about (a) and (b)?
Best,
Tspace
On 08/29/2013 04:01 PM, gladoscc wrote:
I know you know what the problem is, I'm not interested in BSing, but if
you want to come back you'll need to return all the BTC you've withdrawn
since you started running the bot.
JC <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 1:22 PM
To: gladoscc <[email protected]>
I reviewed the rules. It certainly would have been helpful to have seen this *before* you banned me.
Also, nice style on that page. I really like the notepad.
I'd look forward to coming back if you ever want to unban me.
Best,
Tspacepilot
On 08/29/2013 04:23 PM, gladoscc wrote:
The site gives you free mBTC for *chatting*, not for bots.
See here for a list of the rules http://glados.cc/coinchat.html
You've withdrawn 213 mBTC (0.213 BTC) after your first withdraw, and that
is the amount you need to send back if you would like to be unbanned from
coinchat.
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:19 AM, JC <[email protected]>wrote:
Below:
On 08/29/2013 04:11 PM, gladoscc wrote:
a) Bots must be run from a specially designated bot account that does not
earn tips.
That sounds fair, it's the first I've heard of it. Is this the only rule?
Is it posted somewhere? Is there a list of rules I can read and know
about so that if we were to resolve our differences (sounding less likely
given your tone) that I could be sure not to make you angry again.
b) Common sense tells you that the mBTC you've obtained from the bot is
fraudulent,
I think that "fraud" is defined by juridical/legislative/**governmental
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On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM, JC
wrote:
Sounds good. I think here's where I'm confused:
a) I don't know what the rules are
b) You are suggesting that I owe you something
If you can address (a) then I could be sure not to break these rules
again. Without knowing what the rules are it's hard to know that I'm not
breaking them. Without (b) it's hard to know what you think I owe you or
how you came to that conclusion.
Can you be more specific about (a) and (b)?
Best,
Tspace
On 08/29/2013 04:01 PM, gladoscc wrote:
I know you know what the problem is, I'm not interested in BSing, but if
you want to come back you'll need to return all the BTC you've withdrawn
since you started running the bot.
gladoscc <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:02 PM
To: JC <[email protected]>
Return the BTC if you want to be unbanned.
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JC <[email protected]> Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 2:08 PM
To: gladoscc <[email protected]>
Emailing with you is a little like chatting with a bot. How do I know this exchange isn't automated.
Cheers!
(gladoscc replies: 'return the BTC or be destroyed!')
You had posted negative trust on tspacepilot that he defrauded coinchat. Do you have any evidence of him doing so? If so can you post such evidence?
Fun that ACCTseller is doing everything he can to troll me on every possible thread. If you've really got sherlock skills, you'll find the long-ass thread on Meta where me, tradefortress, saltyspitoon and others hash it all out (approximately 2.5 years ago, I'd guess)
Because I've got better things to do than look back through 3 years of posts on bitcointalk just to help you troll me. (Don't you?)
You had posted negative trust on tspacepilot that he defrauded coinchat. Do you have any evidence of him doing so? If so can you post such evidence?
Fun that ACCTseller is doing everything he can to troll me on every possible thread. If you've really got sherlock skills, you'll find the long-ass thread on Meta where me, tradefortress, saltyspitoon and others hash it all out (approximately 2.5 years ago, I'd guess)
You had posted negative trust on tspacepilot that he defrauded coinchat. Do you have any evidence of him doing so? If so can you post such evidence?
Fun that ACCTseller is doing everything he can to troll me on every possible thread. If you've really got sherlock skills, you'll find the long-ass thread on Meta where me, tradefortress, saltyspitoon and others hash it all out (approximately 2.5 years ago, I'd guess)
You had posted negative trust on tspacepilot that he defrauded coinchat. Do you have any evidence of him doing so? If so can you post such evidence?
How should I get in contact? Do you tstill have PM's blocked?
Email Sent
Reply to email Sent.
Reply to reply to email sent.
Can you guys get a room or something?
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