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Quote from: DebitMe on January 09, 2015, 06:03:21 PM

Touche, the websites did operate well and efficiently, which would have taken coding skills. I guess I should have called him an idiot for leaving that much in a hot wallet. So I would suppose stupid but gifted at programming is a better way to describe him. Also a liar for telling people he would back up funds with his own and a liar for saying he wasn't going to keep that much in the hot wallet. You could also argue a thief, depending on what you believe happened to the coins.

This is the sticking point with me. TF was smart enough to know that you can't fully secure anything, and even if you make it so hard it isn't worth it, there's always social engineering. Leaving that much sitting around was foolish, and I don't think he's a fool. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, I don't know.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 09, 2015, 05:58:58 PM

Quote from: DebitMe on January 09, 2015, 03:00:20 PM

He claims to have lost over 4k bitcoins, how is that very good coding skill? (we know he stole it, but how can you call him a good coder when he says he lost it?)

I believe he was a decent programmer. Even if this wasn't a inside job, it doesn't make you a bad programmer that you missed something which someone else found out. Peoples brains operate differently, or may be more skilled. It doesn't make him a bad programmer.

Although, for holding such a large amount of coins, he should of invested in some penetration testing. (He might have) But, as far as I'm aware he coded it himself and probably didn't think it would be a problem checking for security issues himself.

It wasn't a programming bug. The exact vulnerability is described in Brain Eha's upcoming book Walking the Silk Road (inputs has its own section!!), but the gist was the attacker managed to reset the password on a chain of my emails, and get into the server control panel. There was no programming bug.

Inputs had been penetration tested regularly, and on security-critical projects I regularly spend upwards of $5000 on a thorough pentest by professional security forums.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 09, 2015, 05:58:58 PM

Quote from: DebitMe on January 09, 2015, 03:00:20 PM

He claims to have lost over 4k bitcoins, how is that very good coding skill? (we know he stole it, but how can you call him a good coder when he says he lost it?)

I believe he was a decent programmer. Even if this wasn't a inside job, it doesn't make you a bad programmer that you missed something which someone else found out. Peoples brains operate differently, or may be more skilled. It doesn't make him a bad programmer.

Although, for holding such a large amount of coins, he should of invested in some penetration testing. (He might have) But, as far as I'm aware he coded it himself and probably didn't think it would be a problem checking for security issues himself.

Sadly, I too had money stored there. Which I didn't get back (lucky I was wise enough not to store much there), But I'm not going to go throw shit at the wall and call him a bad programmer.

Touche, the websites did operate well and efficiently, which would have taken coding skills. I guess I should have called him an idiot for leaving that much in a hot wallet. So I would suppose stupid but gifted at programming is a better way to describe him. Also a liar for telling people he would back up funds with his own and a liar for saying he wasn't going to keep that much in the hot wallet. You could also argue a thief, depending on what you believe happened to the coins.

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Quote from: DebitMe on January 09, 2015, 03:00:20 PM

He claims to have lost over 4k bitcoins, how is that very good coding skill? (we know he stole it, but how can you call him a good coder when he says he lost it?)

I believe he was a decent programmer. Even if this wasn't a inside job, it doesn't make you a bad programmer that you missed something which someone else found out. Peoples brains operate differently, or may be more skilled. It doesn't make him a bad programmer.

Although, for holding such a large amount of coins, he should of invested in some penetration testing. (He might have) But, as far as I'm aware he coded it himself and probably didn't think it would be a problem checking for security issues himself.

Sadly, I too had money stored there. Which I didn't get back (lucky I was wise enough not to store much there), But I'm not going to go throw shit at the wall and call him a bad programmer. I might.

It doesn't matter if I believe he stole it or not, we can't prove it and we are speculating.

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I honestly can't remember if I cleaned out my CL account, I had always thought I left a bit to appreciate locked in. As it was used in loans, but the site went down and I'll never know.

What happened TF, we chatted so often, it all just went downhill from there Sad

EDIT:
Thank you for removing that feedback.

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Quote from: toddtervy on January 09, 2015, 02:58:30 PM

TF, I remember some of your sites before the 'fiasco'. Seemed you had very good coding skill. Are you working on any projects, or cryptocoin I am wondering?

He claims to have lost over 4k bitcoins, how is that very good coding skill? (we know he stole it, but how can you call him a good coder when he says he lost it?)

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TF, I remember some of your sites before the 'fiasco'. Seemed you had very good coding skill. Are you working on any projects, or cryptocoin I am wondering?

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Speaking of which... it appears TF or $username has ~16 BTC sitting in his known bitcoin wallet not associated with inputs.io/CoinLenders

https://blockchain.info/address/1GLadosEkeAsLReqS3yQ51E1R3wVtbJCDF

So if you would like to use a portion of that to refund my 1 BTC that was supposedly safe at CoinLenders it'd be appreciated. You can keep the some odd interest that I had earned so long as I get the original 1 BTC back, the USD price is probably about the same as it was when I deposited also.

BTC Addr: 1GvUbiK1bevSqQjmXgNAtW5yJs11KYV35W

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Quote from: bitspill on January 09, 2015, 02:16:13 AM

Quote from: Vortex20000 on January 09, 2015, 02:10:13 AM

Quote from: Vod on January 08, 2015, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: DebitMe on January 06, 2015, 09:55:36 AM

even though there is also no way we will ever probably know if you stole the coins or if they were actually stolen

TF stole the coins.

If you remember, about 3 months before the theft, TF blocked ALL personal messages on the forum, forcing everyone to email him. He didn't want Theymos to see what he was doing.

It's like a smoking gun. Or someone who changes their will right before they die in an "accident". TF knew he was going to scam, and he planned for it.

95% he stole them or 100% he stole them?

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99.99% he stole them

No one will ever know what really happened though but that seems to be the consensus.
I even lost 1 BTC at CL.

Sometimes I wonder whether it would have been good for me to be an early adopter and get some goodies and get scammed or be what I am - a late adopter - and not get anything.

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Quote from: Vortex20000 on January 09, 2015, 02:10:13 AM

Quote from: Vod on January 08, 2015, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: DebitMe on January 06, 2015, 09:55:36 AM

even though there is also no way we will ever probably know if you stole the coins or if they were actually stolen

TF stole the coins.

If you remember, about 3 months before the theft, TF blocked ALL personal messages on the forum, forcing everyone to email him. He didn't want Theymos to see what he was doing.

It's like a smoking gun. Or someone who changes their will right before they die in an "accident". TF knew he was going to scam, and he planned for it.

95% he stole them or 100% he stole them?

__
99.99% he stole them

No one will ever know what really happened though but that seems to be the consensus.
I even lost 1 BTC at CL.

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Quote from: Vod on January 08, 2015, 04:46:45 PM

Quote from: DebitMe on January 06, 2015, 09:55:36 AM

even though there is also no way we will ever probably know if you stole the coins or if they were actually stolen

TF stole the coins.

If you remember, about 3 months before the theft, TF blocked ALL personal messages on the forum, forcing everyone to email him. He didn't want Theymos to see what he was doing.

It's like a smoking gun. Or someone who changes their will right before they die in an "accident". TF knew he was going to scam, and he planned for it.

95% he stole them or 100% he stole them?

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Quote from: DebitMe on January 06, 2015, 09:55:36 AM

even though there is also no way we will ever probably know if you stole the coins or if they were actually stolen

TF stole the coins.

If you remember, about 3 months before the theft, TF blocked ALL personal messages on the forum, forcing everyone to email him. He didn't want Theymos to see what he was doing.

It's like a smoking gun. Or someone who changes their will right before they die in an "accident". TF knew he was going to scam, and he planned for it.

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 25, 2014, 05:53:36 AM

Not sure how this will turn out, but ask TradeFortress anything

(instead of polluting all the threads I reply to.)

How do u feel when u see people are getting Goxed and Stamped ?

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on January 05, 2015, 11:44:35 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on January 05, 2015, 12:13:40 PM

Do you remember the details behind the negative trust you left takagari?

It was left in September 2013 which is I believe when your opinion was highly valued and you were still trusted.

There is a thread in meta regarding his reputation, feel free to chime in.

Done, thanks.

How about the negative feedback you left me and in your email said you would remove as I removed the signature when it was brought to my attention that the site was a scam? Surely you remember writing that email to me and saying you would remove it?

Here is an actual question, how can you justify giving negative trust to all those who advertised that dice site, for which we will never know if it was a scam or if they really got hacked, but you don't give negative trust to those who advertised inputs or coinlenders, even though there is also no way we will ever probably know if you stole the coins or if they were actually stolen (either way you said you would be liable for all of them when I deposited the coins and I never agreed to any other terms and conditions)?

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 25, 2014, 10:54:58 AM

Quote from: Jesu on August 25, 2014, 07:48:35 AM

Why do you still linger around here? What is your purpose now? You seem to just like to antagonize people and it verges on trolling sometimes, though other times you also have some good input.

Thank you, an actual question! I'm still lingering around here because I'm still interested in Bitcoin, and what's happening with it and the community. It's not my intention to antagonize people (most of the time), although my style may result in people seeing it as trolling.

The reasons that have bought me into Bitcoin (namely, a decentralized way to send money, and be your own bank) has not changed. I'm still interested in Bitcoin.

I feel this is a wonderful reason to stick around.

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Quote from: Quickseller on January 05, 2015, 12:13:40 PM

Do you remember the details behind the negative trust you left takagari?

It was left in September 2013 which is I believe when your opinion was highly valued and you were still trusted.

There is a thread in meta regarding his reputation, feel free to chime in.

Done, thanks.

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Quote from: 2dogs on November 20, 2014, 03:59:07 AM

Why do you keep changing your name?

he is being $username for quite a time.

I guess the change name times ended

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Do you remember the details behind the negative trust you left takagari?

It was left in September 2013 which is I believe when your opinion was highly valued and you were still trusted.

There is a thread in meta regarding his reputation, feel free to chime in.

--Encrypted--

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hee-ho.

do you use "username" as your username outside of this forum?
I've seen quite a bit of "usernames" lately, 7 and counting..

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Quote from: 2dogs on November 20, 2014, 03:59:07 AM

Why do you keep changing your name?

It's fun.

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