Topic: Astronomers may have found alien megastructures orbiting star near the Milky Way - page 3. (Read 4744 times)

^ don't think there is any relation between the size of a planet and the size of life that can exist there. Aliens could be giants in a small planet or microbes in a giant planet too.

@Wilikon twilight zone? That was a great episode. And a great show.

^ don't think there is any relation between the size of a planet and the size of life that can exist there. Aliens could be giants in a small planet or microbes in a giant planet too.

@Wilikon twilight zone? That was a great episode. And a great show.

They wont be mega structures to giants..YES..GIANT ALIENS..
Not so far fetched to say they might of come from a planet 10 thousand times bigger than earth
and there species might be huge..
If you believe in the bible even that mentions giants also people reckon they have seen 2 mile space ships..
So to a giant that star might be tiny so they might use it as an energy source ..
and the mega structures could be like a petrol station you park up and fill your spaceship up with sun gas and pay with spacecrypto coin you might get a full tank for 50 spacecrypto
then off you go zooming around space again
Its just a thought but a plausible one 

The results from some radiometric dating methods completely undermine those from the other radiometric methods. One such example is carbon-14 (14C) dating. As long as an organism is alive, it takes in 14C and 12C from the atmosphere; however, when it dies, the carbon intake stops. Since 14C is radioactive (decays into 14N), the amount of 14C in a dead organism gets less and less over time. Carbon-14 dates are determined from the measured ratio of radioactive carbon-14 to normal carbon-12 (14C/12C). Used on samples that were once alive, such as wood or bone, the measured 14C/12C ratio is compared with the ratio in living things today.

Now, 14C has a derived half-life of 5,730 years, so the 14C in organic material supposedly 100,000 years old should all essentially have decayed into nitrogen.19 Some things, such as wood trapped in lava flows, said to be millions of years old by other radiometric dating methods, still have 14C in them.20 If the items were really millions of years old, then they shouldn’t have any traces of 14C. Coal and diamonds, which are found in or sandwiched between rock layers allegedly millions of years old, have been shown to have 14C ages of only tens of thousands of years.21 So which date, if any, is correct? The diamonds or coal can’t be millions of years old if they have any traces of 14C still in them. This shows that these dating methods are completely unreliable and indicates that the presumed assumptions in the methods are erroneous.

Similar kinds of problems are seen in the case of potassium-argon dating, which has been considered one of the most reliable methods. Dr. Andrew Snelling, a geologist, points out several of these problems with potassium-argon, as seen in table 7.22

These and other examples raise a critical question. If radiometric dating fails to give an accurate date on something of which we do know the true age, then how can it be trusted to give us the correct age for rocks that had no human observers to record when they formed? If the methods don’t work on rocks of known age, it is most unreasonable to trust that they work on rocks of unknown age. It is far more rational to trust the Word of the God who created the world, knows its history perfectly, and has revealed sufficient information in the Bible for us to understand that history and the age of the creation.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.

This would be like a dream coming true. Imagine what this could mean if we would finally being able to prove not being the only planet with intelligent life in space.
This could be the beginning of a new era.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html


 

In the near future, they also want to try and point a radio dish in the direction of the star and see if they can detect any radio frequencies that a typical advanced civilization might use.  This could be absolutely nuts if they can somehow confirm this.

One or several gas clouds could cause such a fluctuation, but they would have to be orbiting the star.
 
It isn't impossible.

Such a thing would be gravitationally unstable.

I'm not sure we have a way to know if the phenomena in question is "long or short lived."  If it is long lived, then energy is being put into the system to cause it to stand against gravity.  If it is short lived, then it will stop the 22-15% variations of it's own accord, after some thousands or millions of years.

"Long lived," with energy inputs, would basically mean artificial.  Next question is whether the doppler shifts have been measured.  That will tell the orbits of the orbiting masses.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.

Comets cannot produce 15-22% fluctuation unless it is one million comets.

From what I understood from the article and didn't really understand about it, was how where they able to locate this sphere that completely surrounds a whole star?  Wouldn't that sphere just be "hidden" by the darkness of space, since within the inside would be the star? 

Honestly I'm just amazed how they were able to locate this thing from earth...

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

it is actually one of the less probale hypothesis why the light intensity of KIC 8462852 has extreme dips which are not periodic.
to be precise it is about a 15-22% fluctuation, which is very unusual. a planet with the size of saturn would for example weaken the light of the sun by 1%.

as i understand right now things point to collapsed comets which produced dust and gas which weakens/weakened the sunlight instead of alien megastructures.

well in terms of the supposed dyson sphere, theres really only 1 efficient and sensible way to go about it; youre pretty much housing a star to utilize its resources, and theres only so many engineering approaches that make sense in implementing something like that. example, youre not going to build  a triangular prism around a star, it only makes sense that a spherical-shaped structure would be used.

just judging from 1 article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/forget-water-on-mars-astronomers-may-have-just-found-giant-alien-megastructures-orbiting-a-star-near-a6693886.html

it seems the discovery is based off of unnatural, ie man/alien made patterns.

How can anyone have a real idea of what an alien would build or what it would look like? A simple look around this planet tells us architecture can be hard to second-guess.