Topic: Athiest are the ultimate free thinker? (Read 20690 times)

Every person has the inner power to set his future and everyone of us is the god and writer of their own story and beliefs.Religions are not required for that..

I am guessing this is the answer to the question in the other thread about the "hands-on" way to gain spirituality  

Prayer is the first thing to do. After all, most of the bad stuff never happens, because prayer is there ahead of time.

Man, you can do better than this. You can use your Brain-head or at least try for a better argument. Even @BADecker would not agree with your statement.

I don't think like that, on the contrary I doubt that atheists have ever thought of something that has never been seen.


I even doubt if an atheist has a brain in their head, because they believe they have even though they have never seen their own brain. can someone post here a picture of their brain.

Pray is the last resort ,it should be attempted when we are exhausted of all our efforts and no way is found .

Got it, thank you 

Lol okay I'm thru...just making the point that praying might not be the best solution method in all circumstances...

My car keys? Sure you can take them. Drive it at your own risk though, I nicked it during an NBA match from some basketball fan, he was busy watching the Lakers and didn't notice his pockets being picked. Let's say cops are currently hunting for a car with license plate "$P3NDU7U5". There is also a sticker on the rear window that says "Let's Colonize the Moon"  

Lakers tickets? Sorry I only buy NBA finals tickets

My girlfriend? You can take her even before taking my car keys, at least I would get to spend this weekend free from headaches. In fact, you can keep her, but I want my car keys back  

Disclaimer: All statements I made are not true, I love my girlfriend. If she ever sees this post, it might be our last conversation together on BTC forum ***

Nowadays there is so much policy, indoctrination, political thinking, and falsity in what is called science, that the believers in science are often free from reality.

If they are not really gold then keep them. Maybe those guys will take them and you can get away. But you would have to stop praying to get away...

How about this? Go ahead and give me your car keys, and those tickets to the Lakers game you had for tonight with your girlfriend. I'll keep her company so she doesn't miss the game. Just call us and we'll come and pick you up. Unless it is in the middle of the game or too late of course. And you might ought to give me those tickets for the Cancun trip also...

How long will the prayer session continue, do you have any idea? Should I just mark down to pick you up in a week or two?

As I would define the term 'free thinker', it would just mean that a person is free from constraints which limit the scope of their thought processes.

Atheists often assume that religion accomplishes this constraint in those who are religious.  While there may be a relatively large element of truth to this, it does NOT follow that it is the only blocking agent and that lack of religion implies 'free thought'.

Atheists are humans and are wired to outsource their thinking to others.  This takes for form of 'believing' some supposed 'expert' and using said's teachings (or reported teachings) as the blocking agent.

Atheists, who have a natural void due to their lack of 'faith', are prone to use 'science' as their prosthesis of choice.  Shrewd people have recognized this and attached themselves to 'science' which looks a hell of a lot like 'religion' when one scratches the surface.  In some scientific disciplines which support certain projects (geo-engineering, vaccination programs, etc) the corruption is deep and pernicious.

'Science' is taught liberally (pun intended) in many public education spheres in many parts of the world.  'Free thought', on the other hand, is roundly discourage.

More and more one can find themselves in jail for exploring certain thoughts (like whether it was 2 million of 6 million Jews who died in a particular event.)  You have a better chance of being jailed if you share your work in some of these 'blocked' fields of thought...but 'mind reading' technology progresses so who knows what the future will bring.  My guess would be that it will be a technologically enhanced version of the dark ages.  It sure feels to me like that is the way things are going, and especially in the last couple of years.

Aren't we all free thinkers since we have the right to choose and think for ourselves, if you see your religion is not doing any good you have every right to denounce.

I either misunderstood, or I didn't respond clearly. I meant once a person is in Hell or the grave, then prayer won't work for him... at least not the kind that will get him into Heaven.

2 Samuel 12:23:

Do not underestimate the power of prayer my friend. After praying, God made me see the light that those two dudes were good guys after all. They were not trying to mug us, in fact one of them invited me to The Snake Charmer Inn for a round of beers. I told them Spendulus would be waiting for us there.



Oh you mean the heavy gold coins I always keep in my pocket? Here, take them and go, but let me know if anybody would accept them as payment. I painted them myself, don't they look absolutely authentic?  

Praying won't work at this point.     

I don't know if that is a good idea, but how about this.

You pray, but just in case that does not work out well, give me that heavy bag of gold in your pocket? I'll run away really fast, and they won't catch me.

I promise to give it back to you if you wind up alive. Let's meet in two hours at The Snake Charmer Inn. I'll have two pitchers of beer on the table. You don't mind if I spend just a little bit of the gold for the beer, do you? We can discuss the injustice of stereotyping then.

Kind of looks like those guys are getting closer. Now just hand that bag of gold over. I'll take real good are of it.

Or we could pray

Or we could melt in the heat of Hell, and run down the drain.

 

Depends on the speed, hard to talk while running! xD