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legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1267
In Memory of Zepher
January 28, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
#56
"In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks."
So both are cheating in order to achieve higher ranks.
Lauda is the highest rank, aTriz is the second highest. Along with this, there is little to no benefit for either to get a higher rank anyway (other than aTriz just being able to say 'Look at me I'm Legendary' - which is admittedly pretty nice).

50 points for a single post ?
The Merit system is intended to be used if you find a post, or the person posting it, constructive and beneficial to the forum...
It's not possible to merit a person, and therefore you have to merit a post that they have made.
An example in my case is my 50 merits to Lutpin. I've known Lutpin for a while and I consider them to be an extremely beneficial member to the forum, and therefore I gave him 50 merit on a post of his.
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 103
January 28, 2018, 01:35:00 PM
#55
So the merit system is for totally free or should use as one wishes?
The Merit system is intended to be used if you find a post, or the person posting it, constructive and beneficial to the forum. I do agree that this is very general, however whether it is abuse or not does - I think - depend on the people involved.

Here I see someone offering signature campaign on merit base system.
Providing that the merit system is used as intended, and how the signature campaign was run, that could be a completely legitimate way to use Merit.

For example, if a user is running a signature campaign and would only accept users over a certain threshold of merit then it would be absolutely fine. Since given merit is intended to be used as a way to gauge post quality, only accepting users with a high amount of merit would be a fairly decent way to weed out shitposters.
However, if a user was running a signature campaign and required each participant to give him merit to get paid then it would be wrong and the user would likely be warned/punished for such.



I gave them a choice and once the 24h is over i'm going to make it massivly public how Lauda is abusing and scamming people.
This should be fun.
So the merit system is for totally free or should use as one wishes?

Read here: Merit & new rank requirements
The first line from the above link says

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks.


So both are cheating in order to achieve higher ranks.
50 points for a single post ?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 528
January 28, 2018, 01:28:02 PM
#54
You clearly have some form of mental deficiency if you fail to read a post after being pointed directly to it. I'll leave you to live in your happy little world.
I can't really call him happy with the word he chose, he might be living in his personal hell Sad

Its your personal definition of a scam.
You attacked all buyers and sellers instantly as scammer not knowing what purpose that account had and its not because you are a smarita its because you used that function to destroy compeition.

Your explanation to scam somebody for a lot of money was also funny.
We did it to gather more information for the good of the community

Same shit as always fucking scammers
Little did you know that everyone on BTCtalk is a scammer, but you are different, you are the chosen one that will slay all evil that lurks within DT lists.

On a more serious note, BTCtalk is unique and different than other forums you might find, on other forums it is ok to buy and sell accounts as they don't hold anything in it.
On here however, accounts as they hold the user's reputation in it, many people buy accounts just either for scam purposes or signature campaigns (with degraded quality), this behaviour are considered untrusted, hence why DT Members giving a -neg on sellers and buyers.

I tried to phrase it as neutral as possible, but you're probably gonna label me as one of your scammers anyway  Undecided

Edit: oh hey, my first -neg, thanks buddy, seeing blacks on my trust kinda bore me Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
January 28, 2018, 12:19:49 PM
#53
Its your personal definition of a scam.
You attacked all buyers and sellers instantly as scammer not knowing what purpose that account had and its not because you are a smarita its because you used that function to destroy compeition.

Your explanation to scam somebody for a lot of money was also funny.
We did it to gather more information for the good of the community

Same shit as always fucking scammers
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 49
January 28, 2018, 12:18:53 PM
#52
Problem i didn't opened that thread.It was somebody else.
And of course i'm pissed about the massiv abuse of Lauda and his/her group which i make now public.
I gave them 24h to fix their abuse.
I gave them a choice and once the 24h is over i'm going to make it massivly public how Lauda is abusing and scamming people.


And the diffrence between me and him or her is that i make it the offical and legal way buy posting everything public and most important sending massivly traffic to it so people can decide themself based on evidences who is right and who not.
It has a reason why so many people complain about Lauda and his or her group and why she or he got kicked out from staff before

Once time passed you will see what is going to happen and at the end i can bet all ITO's where he/she manages bounty will be officaly asked for a statement.
The king/queen will have to step down trying to calm everything down but it will be replied with the same behavior everyone else got

I really wish you could make that happen Thule. Futile or not, like my postings, I support you for the full 100% in it.

After all it are not the results that matter the most but the braviour to take a stand for truth.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1267
In Memory of Zepher
January 28, 2018, 12:07:53 PM
#51
If account selling is allowed on BCT how can you call it a scam ?Is buying an account instantly a scam ?
You clearly have some form of mental deficiency if you fail to read a post after being pointed directly to it. I'll leave you to live in your happy little world.
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
January 28, 2018, 11:47:08 AM
#50
You are an exposed scammer together with Lauda and TMAN

You fucking loser are trying to legimimate your scammy action in the name of scams.The biggest scam is your group abusing the trust feedback to destroy legit accounts and competition and nothing more.All you do is hiding against fighting scams.

If account selling is allowed on BCT how can you call it a scam ?Is buying an account instantly a scam ?

You fucking piece of shit have NOT to decide about it with your smal pathetic group which are trying to milk the community as much as possible and even described the community as worthless shit you want be talking to.........but using your poor argument to protect your so called worthless community against scams.


Yeah i belive that sure.I saw how you fuckers act and how you destroy legit accounts with no blinking of an eye.


All of you will get exposed and you can trust me your trust will be destroyed once and forever once people read truth about you fuckers.


It has been already proofen once that you Lauda and TMAN tried to scam someone.

This will be the end of your gang



Anyone taking Lauda for his ITO must be insane.He is so hated by the community because of his massiv abuse that he has to defend himself with his group everywhere.

He has already been in the past exposed for a big scam and lost his position as moderator.

Anyone taking him needs to know it will light a very bad light on your ITO.

TMAN and Minifrij was part of that scam thats why he keeps defending Lauda as he is part of the group.


You can read it here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17624090
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17811352

another scam of TMAN

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.22327483
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17703267

Have a look who exposed them and have a look at their profil how they are trying hard to destroy his rep
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1267
In Memory of Zepher
January 28, 2018, 11:17:24 AM
#49
You fuckers come here claiming to save the forum claiming there was a consent to many topics like not selling accounts and abusing your trust power where even mods didn't agreed on that else they would change the terms and guideliness and after you were exposed you claim it was a community consensus ?
I've explained this to you previously, and you ignored me. Feel free to reply to that whenever you like.

I'm going to ignore the rest of your post, since it is just mindless insults with no actual relevance to me.
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1127
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 28, 2018, 11:15:25 AM
#48
So the merit system is for totally free or should use as one wishes?

Read here: Merit & new rank requirements

creating a thread because of revenge often becomes worse for the person who creates the thread.

how Lauda is abusing and scamming people.

You wanted to buy an account.
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
January 28, 2018, 11:14:02 AM
#47
So the merit system is for totally free or should use as one wishes?
The Merit system is intended to be used if you find a post, or the person posting it, constructive and beneficial to the forum. I do agree that this is very general, however whether it is abuse or not does - I think - depend on the people involved.

Here I see someone offering signature campaign on merit base system.
Providing that the merit system is used as intended, and how the signature campaign was run, that could be a completely legitimate way to use Merit.

For example, if a user is running a signature campaign and would only accept users over a certain threshold of merit then it would be absolutely fine. Since given merit is intended to be used as a way to gauge post quality, only accepting users with a high amount of merit would be a fairly decent way to weed out shitposters.
However, if a user was running a signature campaign and required each participant to give him merit to get paid then it would be wrong and the user would likely be warned/punished for such.



I gave them a choice and once the 24h is over i'm going to make it massivly public how Lauda is abusing and scamming people.
This should be fun.


Hey scammer giving merit for the word butthead is constructive for the forum ?
You fuckers come here claiming to save the forum claiming there was a consent to many topics like not selling accounts and abusing your trust power where even mods didn't agreed on that else they would change the terms and guideliness and after you were exposed you claim it was a community consensus ?
I guess community means just you few fuckers to make self benefical.

Best of all most you fuckers were back in the  days lending coins for accounts as collateral.
Seems you had no issues with that fucking losers
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1267
In Memory of Zepher
January 28, 2018, 11:08:39 AM
#46
So the merit system is for totally free or should use as one wishes?
The Merit system is intended to be used if you find a post, or the person posting it, constructive and beneficial to the forum. I do agree that this is very general, however whether it is abuse or not does - I think - depend on the people involved.

Here I see someone offering signature campaign on merit base system.
Providing that the merit system is used as intended, and how the signature campaign was run, that could be a completely legitimate way to use Merit.

For example, if a user is running a signature campaign and would only accept users over a certain threshold of merit then it would be absolutely fine. Since given merit is intended to be used as a way to gauge post quality, only accepting users with a high amount of merit would be a fairly decent way to weed out shitposters.
However, if a user was running a signature campaign and required each participant to give him merit to get paid then it would be wrong and the user would likely be warned/punished for such.



I gave them a choice and once the 24h is over i'm going to make it massivly public how Lauda is abusing and scamming people.
This should be fun.
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
January 28, 2018, 11:07:28 AM
#45

Its clearly the attempt to take full controll by a small group which destroyes everyone who won't consent their BS.


Basically the control was already there through the trust system abuse. The merit system only tightened the grip.

they are not abusing the merit system and you have created this thread because of personal vengeance against Lauda .. you installed some kind of censor in the body of lauda or you stay all day watching lauda waiting for the right moment to attack.

This forum is becoming a battlefield.

Problem i didn't opened that thread.It was somebody else.
And of course i'm pissed about the massiv abuse of Lauda and his/her group which i make now public.
I gave them 24h to fix their abuse.
I gave them a choice and once the 24h is over i'm going to make it massivly public how Lauda is abusing and scamming people.


And the diffrence between me and him or her is that i make it the offical and legal way buy posting everything public and most important sending massivly traffic to it so people can decide themself based on evidences who is right and who not.
It has a reason why so many people complain about Lauda and his or her group and why she or he got kicked out from staff before

Once time passed you will see what is going to happen and at the end i can bet all ITO's where he/she manages bounty will be officaly asked for a statement.
The king/queen will have to step down trying to calm everything down but it will be replied with the same behavior everyone else got
full member
Activity: 756
Merit: 103
January 28, 2018, 10:07:14 AM
#44

Its clearly the attempt to take full controll by a small group which destroyes everyone who won't consent their BS.


Basically the control was already there through the trust system abuse. The merit system only tightened the grip.

they are not abusing the merit system and you have created this thread because of personal vengeance against Lauda .. you installed some kind of censor in the body of lauda or you stay all day watching lauda waiting for the right moment to attack.

This forum is becoming a battlefield.
So the merit system is for totally free or should use as one wishes?
Here I see someone offering signature campaign on merit base system.

Everyone has right to speech, the On poster clearly explained abusing of Merit System. Have you ever been in SMF forums or any other forums?
legendary
Activity: 3164
Merit: 1127
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
January 28, 2018, 07:52:07 AM
#43

Its clearly the attempt to take full controll by a small group which destroyes everyone who won't consent their BS.


Basically the control was already there through the trust system abuse. The merit system only tightened the grip.

they are not abusing the merit system and you have created this thread because of personal vengeance against Lauda .. you installed some kind of censor in the body of lauda or you stay all day watching lauda waiting for the right moment to attack.

This forum is becoming a battlefield.
member
Activity: 238
Merit: 49
January 28, 2018, 03:56:29 AM
#42

Its clearly the attempt to take full controll by a small group which destroyes everyone who won't consent their BS.


Basically the control was already there through the trust system abuse. The merit system only tightened the grip.
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2510
Spear the bees
January 28, 2018, 12:13:59 AM
#41
Second mostly higher ranked users got more merit power than average users which will grow exponencially.
Means after certain time a simple merit like from a high ranked member could be worth like 20-50 normal members.
We'll ignore the deflection from minifrij's remark.

These comments of yours tell us that you do not understand how the merit system works. What is this 'merit power' you're referring to? And exponential growth is quite the opposite: sMerit decays exponentially.

Using this kind of system will just attract more spammers to build trusted accounts and start services.It has been proven on each other messageboard even on heavy moderated ones.
How does reducing the accessibility of signature campaigns attract more spam? That just doesn't make sense to me Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
January 27, 2018, 11:06:19 PM
#40
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Hi Thule,
I keep reading bad stuff about Lauda and company. I suppose they are really hated for their abuse of the trust system. I noticed almost all members here doesnt like them but I dont know why they are still here. It makes me angry and feel this forum is very biased and power tripper. Everyone just kiss their ass so they won't get neg trust but does not sincerely like them. If polls will be created on which member should be kicked out I'm pretty sure its them. I admire your courage for stepping up and be the voice of the quiet majority here. Please be the instrument to change this forum to be better and destroy the evils like Lauda and company.


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System trust will still be the benchmark, I think the system trust is much higher because not everyone can get it. System trust remains a thing to see that the account does have a good reputation. The existing merit system I think will help eliminate some spammers because only people who have good post quality can get it, it is still in development stage and hopefully merit system can be in accordance with fact because most of the time some of the conditions are often misused.


I doubt the merit system will work at all with no control.Merit is basicly a reputation system if i understand it correctly.
It has been used so many times on diffrent boards and it always was abused after certain amount of time.

First the circles exchanging themself merit.Since the staff has no time for scammers i doubt staff will have time to check logs who is participating in such circles.
Second mostly higher ranked users got more merit power than average users which will grow exponencially.
Means after certain time a simple merit like from a high ranked member could be worth like 20-50 normal members.
Thats not decentralisation of power which was the main idea of this board.

Its clearly the attempt to take full controll by a small group which destroyes everyone who won't consent their BS.

Using this kind of system will just attract more spammers to build trusted accounts and start services.It has been proven on each other messageboard even on heavy moderated ones.
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1042
January 27, 2018, 10:44:41 PM
#39
Here's the thing. The merit system was created to slow down shitposting and shitposters from leveling up. Atriz is hero, Klaas too and Lauda is legendary. What would be the point of farming merits??

There is always the possibility that Theymos may introduce a new rank requiring more Merit than 1,000. 

I get that, however this is present day with no such thing on the horizon (at least not yet).

As you said, it's a possibility. There is no point in doing anything "fishy" if there is no reason for it.

That's what I'm trying to understand. Okay, so there's an "inner circle" that's conspiring to give each other merit... But they don't actually need any merit for anything at all so it doesn't really mean anything. So... They just generated random fake numbers that mean nothing on a forum.

SCAM! Lol.
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1267
In Memory of Zepher
January 27, 2018, 10:40:50 PM
#38
Its just proof that you guys clearly abused your power.
I've done nothing towards you. Before this conversation I didn't even know you existed.

You should get a shitstorm now for the shit you created with your group.
See the above.

Its posted by the global mod and there is no other info posted that selling accounts is not allowed.
Tell you what, do you agree that scamming is a bad thing? I sincerely hope that you do.
What I want you to do, is I want you to find me the rule on that thread that says that a user cannot scam another user. When you find it, feel free to quote or copy it here.

What you will find is that no such rule exists. Now, here comes the tricky part. Does that rule not existing mean that scamming another user is something that you should do? Does it mean that, because that rule isn't on that list, people should ignore the people scamming others?

How can you abuse your power calling people scammers if there is a clear guideline that its allowed.
I don't have any power, nor do I particularly want any. If you want an answer to that question, try the above answer. You should also keep in mind that even though account sales aren't not allowed, they are discouraged, meaning that the forum would rather that you didn't do them.

I fully expect you to ignore everything I just said, and brush it off as just me 'protecting my group'. If you actually try to refute my points though, you'll get some extra brownie points.
sr. member
Activity: 938
Merit: 276
January 27, 2018, 10:28:35 PM
#37
Its just proof that you guys clearly abused your power.

You should get a shitstorm now for the shit you created with your group.


Its posted by the global mod and there is no other info posted that selling accounts is not allowed.


How can you abuse your power calling people scammers if there is a clear guideline that its allowed.


Its your fucking group who started abusing it and you deserve like the rest of your group an instant ban
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