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Who is Baldur Odinsen? Tell me who he is and I walk away from this conversation and never return and wish you all the best. I don't know any Icelandic coin developers, most are from China,India,Netherlands and US. I think dev was not from Iceland and use fake Iceland name.

I found him, my mistake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balder_%28comics%29

At this point in time, does it matter who he is though?  I can assure you that I personally know 5 members of the new team, and have been acquainted with the rest, and they are most certainly not Balduro.

If the coin is in new hands, and the premine was burned, does Balduro matter?  That's like trying to continue the hunt for satoshi.

-Fuse

It wouldn't matter if there wasn't a premine, there is a lot of issues surrounding the other 25% of the premine, he has a lot of explaining to do.



In all seriousness, though, what would you like addressed?  Coins were airdropped to whoever claimed them.  The remaining coins sat in wallets that the AUR team had already planned to block should Balduro not come through with his initial promise.  Balduro then, as he said he would, burned the remaining coins in a dump address(which can be seen in this transaction https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/tx.dws?490947.htm).  He is no longer involved in the workings of this coin.  It seems pretty clear.

For those that have already responded about the FUD, I think we should hear it out.  If we can't clearly state what the current situation is, and what our current position is with AUR, then we can't dismiss the FUD.

So Eggert, What's left to discuss about it?  What's left for him to explain?  I want to see if I can get you whatever answers you need to be at peace with your thoughts about AUR.

-Fuse

You can explain yourself in this discussion.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11225376

The airdrop was donne by using the kennitala ID system and moving bytes of computer generated data Smiley
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennitala
The initial hype arround AUR just before the airdrop when 31.8 of them worth 600$+, attracted 30.000+ airdrop requests.
After the dump the number of second airdrop request went down to 5000+
And the 3'rd airdrop request went even lower to 2500+
Because the value of the airdop coins is so low now, they have no use in merchant transaction. It's something that you just trade if you have a taste for risk or you firmly believe in the concept propose by AUR coin.
But with the newly dedicated foundation that holds a marketing and development budget, this will change in time.

Do you know what the developer did to advertise AUR to the people in Iceland. I am part of the Guldencoin community and as you can see with our distribtion stats under 2000 people have claimed with a population of 17 million in the Netherlands. The coin has also just turned 1 year old and has plenty merchants, been on the media and even RT but only 1918 people have claimed. Any tips or ideas the AUR developer used would be welcomed.
 
https://distribution.guldencoin.com/#/stats

Something that is a concern is that EFL with the same coin supply also claimed around 40 000 people in the Netherlands claimed but that was proven as a scam as the coin creators got caught out by having bigger sells in EFL on the exchanges then was meant to be in supply at the time. Now there has been community takeover and they also got a foundation built. Looks like AUR going to head in same direction.

I know some members in Guldencoin have invested in AUR so came to check it out so please let me know how they advertised and I can give this information to our team.

Let me share come facts and opinions I have about AUR.

1. I proved to myself it was a scam when I did some peer lookups during the airdrop,there was less then 150 active nodes. I would say less then 70 at this point in time.
2. The developer is not from Iceland, this is the reason you will never ever get him to reveal his true identity.
3. AUR was created by a smart and patient investor who most likely can wait it out and present some feel good stories to con people.
4. Same sock accounts used to defend the coin.
5. Not in a million years was 40 000 AUR given to unique people as per point 1.







Don't u think the dev deserve to be rich for his good idea even though  he scam at start? Many inventor sell idea and invention  for lots of money. The way I see the dev deserve to be rich.
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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?

Yes there was a time but sometimes life gets the best of you. Smiley

There were some changes on the way and we decided that the new code base would need more testing before we would publish it. We rather take more time to make sure that the code is solid than to publish it with a possible bug. Our estimate is that the code should be properly tested and the new wallets compiled by the later part this week. I'm sure most people here would rather have a stable wallet than getting it a few days earlier.

Oh and thanks for the code update, yes would prefer stable, maybe update OP to reflect this.  I would like to hold aur not in an exchange for obvious reasons...

Absolutely correct on both OP and exchanges. Smiley
Will get the OP updated.

What code changes are being released? Something new and innovative or just copy and paste ?
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Who is Baldur Odinsen? Tell me who he is and I walk away from this conversation and never return and wish you all the best. I don't know any Icelandic coin developers, most are from China,India,Netherlands and US. I think dev was not from Iceland and use fake Iceland name.

I found him, my mistake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balder_%28comics%29

At this point in time, does it matter who he is though?  I can assure you that I personally know 5 members of the new team, and have been acquainted with the rest, and they are most certainly not Balduro.

If the coin is in new hands, and the premine was burned, does Balduro matter?  That's like trying to continue the hunt for satoshi.

-Fuse

It wouldn't matter if there wasn't a premine, there is a lot of issues surrounding the other 25% of the premine, he has a lot of explaining to do.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3f/3fdeff077e088e82c4d435e8f0d6f0067fa8145cb469255996ce33f8ad79e353.jpg

In all seriousness, though, what would you like addressed?  Coins were airdropped to whoever claimed them.  The remaining coins sat in wallets that the AUR team had already planned to block should Balduro not come through with his initial promise.  Balduro then, as he said he would, burned the remaining coins in a dump address(which can be seen in this transaction https://chainz.cryptoid.info/aur/tx.dws?490947.htm).  He is no longer involved in the workings of this coin.  It seems pretty clear.

For those that have already responded about the FUD, I think we should hear it out.  If we can't clearly state what the current situation is, and what our current position is with AUR, then we can't dismiss the FUD.

So Eggert, What's left to discuss about it?  What's left for him to explain?  I want to see if I can get you whatever answers you need to be at peace with your thoughts about AUR.

-Fuse

You can explain yourself in this discussion.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11225376

The airdrop was donne by using the kennitala ID system and moving bytes of computer generated data Smiley
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennitala
The initial hype arround AUR just before the airdrop when 31.8 of them worth 600$+, attracted 30.000+ airdrop requests.
After the dump the number of second airdrop request went down to 5000+
And the 3'rd airdrop request went even lower to 2500+
Because the value of the airdop coins is so low now, they have no use in merchant transaction. It's something that you just trade if you have a taste for risk or you firmly believe in the concept propose by AUR coin.
But with the newly dedicated foundation that holds a marketing and development budget, this will change in time.

Do you know what the developer did to advertise AUR to the people in Iceland. I am part of the Guldencoin community and as you can see with our distribtion stats under 2000 people have claimed with a population of 17 million in the Netherlands. The coin has also just turned 1 year old and has plenty merchants, been on the media and even RT but only 1918 people have claimed. Any tips or ideas the AUR developer used would be welcomed.
 
https://distribution.guldencoin.com/#/stats

Something that is a concern is that EFL with the same coin supply also claimed around 40 000 people in the Netherlands claimed but that was proven as a scam as the coin creators got caught out by having bigger sells in EFL on the exchanges then was meant to be in supply at the time. Now there has been community takeover and they also got a foundation built. Looks like AUR going to head in same direction.

I know some members in Guldencoin have invested in AUR so came to check it out so please let me know how they advertised and I can give this information to our team.

Let me share come facts and opinions I have about AUR.

1. I proved to myself it was a scam when I did some peer lookups during the airdrop,there was less then 150 active nodes. I would say less then 70 at this point in time.
2. The developer is not from Iceland, this is the reason you will never ever get him to reveal his true identity.
3. AUR was created by a smart and patient investor who most likely can wait it out and present some feel good stories to con people.
4. Same sock accounts used to defend the coin.
5. Not in a million years was 40 000 AUR given to unique people as per point 1.





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@apcoin : Just came from a few kms bicycle ride, 20 celcius here, no more snow, working on preparing our pool for summer :p.

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hopefully not be a new episode of the drama "Altsareback".....   Undecided

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Nice to see what has been going on for the last two weeks, maby I should extend my vacation here in Florida for another two weeks and see what happens. Cool

Is it still below zero and snowing home in Iceland
Sun showed it self as soon as you left Iceland. Me and skarfurinn have been sunbathing this weekend Cool

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Nice to see what has been going on for the last two weeks, maby I should extend my vacation here in Florida for another two weeks and see what happens. Cool

Is it still below zero and snowing home in Iceland
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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?

Yes there was a time but sometimes life gets the best of you. Smiley

There were some changes on the way and we decided that the new code base would need more testing before we would publish it. We rather take more time to make sure that the code is solid than to publish it with a possible bug. Our estimate is that the code should be properly tested and the new wallets compiled by the later part this week. I'm sure most people here would rather have a stable wallet than getting it a few days earlier.

Oh and thanks for the code update, yes would prefer stable, maybe update OP to reflect this.  I would like to hold aur not in an exchange for obvious reasons...

Absolutely correct on both OP and exchanges. Smiley
Will get the OP updated.

What code changes are being released? Something new and innovative or just copy and paste ?

Nothing new and innovative. Auroracoin's current code base is old and outdated and that is creating various problems. We plan to have more improvements to the coin but those changes will take 2-3 months to implement and test. So what we are doing now is updating to a new litecoin code base with improved difficulty retargeting as the current one is not stable and is having stalls because of multipools. Soon after we launch the new code base we will publish a roadmap where we will disclose where we are heading with the core development and our estimated timeline.

What you can expect from our core development is stability. Auroracoin is not about innovative technology but about the people of Iceland adopting the coin. So our resources are better spent on focusing on that rather than new features. Everything we see that can make the coin more stable and secure will be something that we would want to implement and who knows what will be required when a lot of people start to use the coin.
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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?

Yes there was a time but sometimes life gets the best of you. Smiley

There were some changes on the way and we decided that the new code base would need more testing before we would publish it. We rather take more time to make sure that the code is solid than to publish it with a possible bug. Our estimate is that the code should be properly tested and the new wallets compiled by the later part this week. I'm sure most people here would rather have a stable wallet than getting it a few days earlier.

Can you explain why the foundation holds 1 million aur?  For instance if this was a brand new coin, we are talking a 15% premine (since 5.4million or burned) for dev/foundation work, almost everyone on bct would call this out pretty violently.  Coming from FLT I recognize the need to have proper funding, but at current price that is $8.6 million isk.  Not sure if that's a lot in Icelandic terms.



That was Baldur's decision and nobody here had really anything to say about it. According to his original airdrop blueprint there was always supposed to be a portion left for the foundation or dev group but if I remember correctly that was supposed to be around 1/3 of what it turned out to be. I think he increased the amount as he was hoping that the development would pick up at the time but the price had gotten quite low at the time. This was when he reset the airdrop for the second phase.

So the million is there and there is not much to do about it now so we are working on a clear plan on how the foundation will use and secure the funds. For the moment I can not give you guys the details of how it will be used as it's not for me to disclose at this time but I can tell that the majority of it will be used for promotion and education in Iceland and for infrastructure development. The fund will not be touched until these plans have been laid out in detail and all factors of transparency are in place.
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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?

Yes there was a time but sometimes life gets the best of you. Smiley

There were some changes on the way and we decided that the new code base would need more testing before we would publish it. We rather take more time to make sure that the code is solid than to publish it with a possible bug. Our estimate is that the code should be properly tested and the new wallets compiled by the later part this week. I'm sure most people here would rather have a stable wallet than getting it a few days earlier.

Oh and thanks for the code update, yes would prefer stable, maybe update OP to reflect this.  I would like to hold aur not in an exchange for obvious reasons...

Absolutely correct on both OP and exchanges. Smiley
Will get the OP updated.
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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?

Yes there was a time but sometimes life gets the best of you. Smiley

There were some changes on the way and we decided that the new code base would need more testing before we would publish it. We rather take more time to make sure that the code is solid than to publish it with a possible bug. Our estimate is that the code should be properly tested and the new wallets compiled by the later part this week. I'm sure most people here would rather have a stable wallet than getting it a few days earlier.

Oh and thanks for the code update, yes would prefer stable, maybe update OP to reflect this.  I would like to hold aur not in an exchange for obvious reasons...
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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?

Yes there was a time but sometimes life gets the best of you. Smiley

There were some changes on the way and we decided that the new code base would need more testing before we would publish it. We rather take more time to make sure that the code is solid than to publish it with a possible bug. Our estimate is that the code should be properly tested and the new wallets compiled by the later part this week. I'm sure most people here would rather have a stable wallet than getting it a few days earlier.

Can you explain why the foundation holds 1 million aur?  For instance if this was a brand new coin, we are talking a 15% premine (since 5.4million or burned) for dev/foundation work, almost everyone on bct would call this out pretty violently.  Coming from FLT I recognize the need to have proper funding, but at current price that is $8.6 million isk.  Not sure if that's a lot in Icelandic terms.

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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?

Yes there was a time but sometimes life gets the best of you. Smiley

There were some changes on the way and we decided that the new code base would need more testing before we would publish it. We rather take more time to make sure that the code is solid than to publish it with a possible bug. Our estimate is that the code should be properly tested and the new wallets compiled by the later part this week. I'm sure most people here would rather have a stable wallet than getting it a few days earlier.
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I did not know that it is known why Satoshi Nakamoto gave Bitcoin up.
What was the reason and from where did you get this information?  Shocked

sorry I wasnt folowing auroracoin very much, just wanted to ask, why original dev gave up on it

Same reason why Satoshi gave up on Bitcoin.

Nobody knows for sure about Satoshi, neither do we from Baldur. But both seemed to wanted to do something groundbreaking, but didn't feel comfortable being in the spotlight for that (can understand with Satoshi... all the fanboyism that was here, plus maybe a bit of fear from groups that might not like his idea of giving people control about money).
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I did not know that it is known why Satoshi Nakamoto gave Bitcoin up.
What was the reason and from where did you get this information?  Shocked

sorry I wasnt folowing auroracoin very much, just wanted to ask, why original dev gave up on it

Same reason why Satoshi gave up on Bitcoin.
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I remember holding 1 aur as part of my coin plan back in 2013.  So price has dropped, some people bought it all up and now are rebooting it?  That is noble cause and good luck to you, but you cannot just say hey we are relaunching, we are new, look at us when in your OP you have original github, original wallets, that haven't been touched since April 2014.  I remember there was a countdown timer to new stuff?  I have a little over 600 aur now, nothing close to the 2 million held by three addresses but still wondering where is this going to end up?
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Let's move on and take the coin back to over litecoin in marketcap
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sorry I wasnt folowing auroracoin very much, just wanted to ask, why original dev gave up on it

Hey mate, most people believe the actual developer was not from Iceland but someone that came up with a good idea for the country because it was the hardest hit in the 2008 crisis. So the dev had his limitations of what he could do for the coin. Now a new team has taken over and potentially someone within this team is the real developer, but now there is no pressure on them to succeed.
The good part is that 3 people who control 1 million AUR in a foundation (part of the premine) are from Iceland and most likely the first real Icelandic people involved.

Actually he was always clear on this from the beginning. His plan was always just to start the coin and let the community take over. He never hid the fact that he would withdraw from the project, at least as Baldur. Even though he stopped communicating some months after the initial lunch he still followed through on everything that he promised. He reset the airdrop for phase 2 and 3 like he said though he changed the arrangement which he also made clear he might do in the airdrop bluprint and he burned the remainder of the airdrop after the airdrop was finished. I like many others do not agree with all the decisions that he made but they were his to make and as far as I know he didn't lie to anyone. So whatever people might think of the guy he never promised anything that he didn't deliver.

The reason Auroracoin lost it's momentum in the beginning is the fact that it was extremely overinflated by unrealistic expectations and naturally crashed when everyone realised it was so. So most people who wanted to get involved in the beginning disappeared as they wrote the coin off as a failure. The uncertainty increased more when Baldur stopped communicating and the people who were still involved didn't get the support and traction needed to continue.

There has always been a core of people who have been determined to take this all the way (me included). The reason we didn't until now is that we have always known that while the airdrop was still open there would always be too much doubt and we would not be able to introduce this project to the people of Iceland until that uncertainty was eliminated. So what we have been doing is working behind the scene towards other infrastructure solutions.

Regarding Baldur not being Icelandic. I never communicated with him myself but I personally know a few people who did and they did that in Icelandic. So either Baldur was Icelandic or one of that group at least was. Another fact is that you can't get access to Íslykill (Icelanic social ID authentication service) unless you are Icelandic.
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sorry I wasnt folowing auroracoin very much, just wanted to ask, why original dev gave up on it

Same reason why Satoshi gave up on Bitcoin.
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